first of all i know i should ask the softmii people and i tried that but they cant seem to answer my question, the truth is i think they are having just as big a problem finding heads and tail in that guide as i am. so was hoping one of you guys had completed the install thru the guide im doing the online install dont have a lu wii and its system menu 4,0 no softmods has been installed before. i've just finished chapter 8 in the guide (note not sure it's important but in chapter 7 it says to save the bootmii and elf/dol file on the computer for later use did this and removed the two files from the SD card not sure if i've made a mistake here or not) and im about to install the cios36rev10, im doing the online install and i dont have a lu wii so am i supposed to use cioscorp or softcorp or possibly both and would it be recommended to run the cios rev13a or b to avoid the 002 error in the future?? hope you guys can help me and thank you in advance. Sypherian P.S. hope it is all right to post this here and i apologize in advance if i overstepped some boundaries.