Hacking Sciifii

[wes11ph]

what i think is? when sciifiiv2 releases. better pinned this topic, and all questions and tutorials about sciifii should go here, that way noobs aren't gonna flood the whole GBATemp. And Arasium better edit the 1st post with a tutorial.... i guess some noobs aren't really newbie they are just new members with dev capabilities(not just shareware hacker)

and i suggest sciifii should be tested with different system menu's with different regions and versions that way we are sure that sciifii works well that doesn't brick anyone's wii.

i think if you just going to run:
1. TBR
2. CIOS installer
3. priiloader
4. install a usb loader

this process wouldn't brick your wii...

 

[Teton]

what i think is? when sciifiiv2 releases. better pinned this topic, and all questions and tutorials about sciifii should go here, that way noobs aren't gonna flood the whole GBATemp. And Arasium better edit the 1st post with a tutorial.... i guess some noobs aren't really newbie they are just new members with dev capabilities(not just shareware hacker)

and i suggest sciifii should be tested with different system menu's with different regions and versions that way we are sure that sciifii works well that doesn't brick anyone's wii.

i think if you just going to run:
1. TBR
2. CIOS installer
3. priiloader
4. install a usb loader

this process wouldn't brick your wii...

sure it won't..

 

[ChokeD]

i dont really like the idea of something like this. just think of the stereotypical noob post where they say..

"My wii stopped working. I dont know how it was hacked. I dont know what IOSes are in it. In fact, I dont know anything about this other than it is wii, i used to play pirated games on it, but i did something to fuck it up. now it doesnt play burned games."

This type of program is just asking to take that to the next level. You are designing something that will attract the most idiotic of noobs. You need to account for every little thing they could do to fuck something up.

1 - if you have a wad installer that batch installs wads, are you going to make sure that every wad is legit before starting to install the first one?
2 - there will inevitably some noobs out there who think they know what they are doing and create a shitty guide for other, stupider noobs containing this program. What happens when they give out your program with a collection of wads that will brick a wii ? will your app be smart enough to not install those wads?
3 - if you are using NUS to allow people to install stuff, what happens if somebody tries to install a system menu and then its IOS but their internet connection cuts out after the system menu is there but before the IOS is there?

maybe you should have the app create a log of what all it has done. since these people are blindly letting your program do whatever it wants to the wii and trusting that it will work, it should at least make a log for them when its done. that way when they come on here asking for help about how to recover their bricked wii, they can just post a log of what all they let some stranger put on their wii.

Your opinion is noted. I do think that a progress log of things done is a real good idea. A darn good idea really. BUT, giantpune, I got to tell ya, yours is a negative stereotypical dev post. We get the likeness of the above noob questions now. Honestly a noob isn't going to use this program, I mean think about it, a noob wouldn't even know what this thing even does. More than likely the person who gave his Wii to someone to get it modded is going to ask the same guy to fix it if something breaks.

1 - why, does every batch wad installer do that ?? ( I don't know one that does)
2 - wouldn't that come back on the guy who wrote the guide considering SciiFii doesn't come with wads.
3 - isn't that a potential problem with any wanin updater/downdater ?? (I'm asking, I don't know, I don't use them)

seriously I'm just trying to be optimistic here, not a jerk, and I kinda/somewhat respect some of your opinions, just not all of them.

Respectfully

 

[techboy]

Honestly a noob isn't going to use this program, I mean think about it, a noob wouldn't even know what this thing even does.
They will if someone makes a guide that says to put a RAR/ZIP of files on his SD then run bannerbomb...some n00b will inevitably play with the advanced options and brick their wii.

wouldn't that come back on the guy who wrote the guide considering SciiFii doesn't come with wads.
I thought sciifii's goal was to be legal, and thus WAD-less. Pretty sure this'll use NUS.

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isn't that a potential problem with any wanin updater/downdater ?? (I'm asking, I don't know, I don't use them)

What problem? The fact is don't come with wads? Wanin updates use NUS. Also, 4.0/4.1 updaters brick your wii unless you install the IOS60 manually beforehand.

 

[ChokeD]

Exactly on all three counts, thanks for proving all my points. If something goes wrong no one is to blame but the guy who don't read the readme or the guy who packs illegal wads with this legal app or the guy who has a crappy internet connection which could even happen to a wanin app that uses NUS.

Keep up the good work you guys. This is going to prove to be a good app.

 

[crwys]

By the way.... This app downloads everything first, so you can not be at risk of bricking due to internet connection loss. And I am pretty sure when it is installing, it is just as risky as doing any of this manually when you are installing.

 

[Teton]

Hmm,

1) We download everythink before installing something, so no internet cut prob
2) sciifii is legit(v2),all is downloaded via NUS server

 

[crwys]

Hmm,

1) We download everythink before installing something, so no internet cut prob
2) sciifii is legit(v2),all is downloaded via NUS server

"So no internet cut prob"
???

 

[giantpune]

im not trying to be a negative nancy, im just saying that you are definitely making a app that is attractive to noobs. theres no way you can argue against that. and when dealing with noobs, you really have to account for all the stupid shit they will do. they will find a way to break the program if there is one. and you should be prepared for a shitload of "scifii bricked my wii" posts if you have noob-proofed it.

 

[wes11ph]

teamwiigen better make a file checker on the basic installation before it install everything just to be safe.
and a make good tutorials for newbie.

 

[Teton]

Hmm,

1) We download everythink before installing something, so no internet cut prob
2) sciifii is legit(v2),all is downloaded via NUS server

"So no internet cut prob"
???

if internet shutdown, it wont brick your wii

 

[wes11ph]

thus sciifii tested on 4.2 versions? when you install priiloader and your on 4.2 version you need cios70 or you'll get a corrupted system files...

 

[crwys]

thus sciifii tested on 4.2 versions? when you install priiloader and your on 4.2 version you need cios70 or you'll get a corrupted system files...

Its ios70? And I have already tested this one 4.2 with no problems.

 

[toejam316]

thus sciifii tested on 4.2 versions? when you install priiloader and your on 4.2 version you need cios70 or you'll get a corrupted system files...

You're pretty out of date. Priiloader works with unpatched System Menu IOSes now.

 

[Teton]

thus sciifii tested on 4.2 versions? when you install priiloader and your on 4.2 version you need cios70 or you'll get a corrupted system files...

You're pretty out of date. Priiloader works with unpatched System Menu IOSes now.

and yes it do work.

 

[wes11ph]

tnx for confirming

i'm too lazy to test it. hehe lol

 

[Teton]

tnx for confirming

i'm too lazy to test it. hehe lol

as there's no priiloader in v1, you cant

v2 release tomorrow ( If all is ok )
Just finishing the offline downloader.

 

[arasium]

We do a file checker before installing something.

When we update the system menu, we install the elements in a specific order:

ios70 (in the v2, this will be the ios60 in the slot 70, to avoid error 003)
sysMenu
ios60

Doing that, you can't brick the wii (except if the wads a re corrupted, but theorycally it cant if they are not downloaded from nus).

 

[wes11ph]

We do a file checker before installing something.

When we update the system menu, we install the elements in a specific order:

ios70 (in the v2, this will be the ios60 in the slot 70, to avoid error 003)
sysMenu
ios60

Doing that, you can't brick the wii (except if the wads a re corrupted, but theorycally it cant if they are not downloaded from nus).

as i saw this (in the v2, this will be the ios60 in the slot 70, to avoid error 003)

does sciifiiv2 include an auto region changer?

 

[Teton]

We do a file checker before installing something.

When we update the system menu, we install the elements in a specific order:

ios70 (in the v2, this will be the ios60 in the slot 70, to avoid error 003)
sysMenu
ios60

Doing that, you can't brick the wii (except if the wads a re corrupted, but theorycally it cant if they are not downloaded from nus).

as i saw this (in the v2, this will be the ios60 in the slot 70, to avoid error 003)

does sciifiiv2 include an auto region changer?

Actually no.
But it's a great idea lol