Roe V Wade has been repealed

[TraderPatTX]

Yeah? Care to provide some or is this more of your hollow "whataboutism" arguing?

You also seem to forget that BLM a movement *originally* created to fight systemic racism, especially at the hand of trigger happy racist cops, existed to fight this kind of crime, and has been demonized by the Republicans since it's inception.

So which is it? Do Republicans love black people or hate them?

And what in the world does this have to do with abortions?



Hey, check this out:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

Tl;Dr?

Basically it states that their job is not to protect you, a citizen, from any situation that could involve the harming of an officer, unless it's in regards to someone in custody.

Aaaaaand, they can no longer be sued for not reading someone their Miranda Rights, which sounds trivial until you realize that a cop can now essentially arrest you for any reason, offer no protection until you're actively in custody, and not be sued for any of it.

Hard? I've seen 15 years working harder jobs at fast food joints. I wish I could be a glorified ticket taker in a vehicle with $20,000 in military equipment they don't need to not protect the innocent.

Isn't the police force usually backed by government? State at the state level, federal agents by the federal government, yada yada yada. It's almost like you demonize people who are supposedly for big government in one post and then lick boots in the next.

You better give me something good this time. I *wasted* all that time in my second to last response to you, and it was beautiful.

Notice me, senpai

All that BLM has accomplished is making the founders of the organization rich. They have never given back to black communities. They also do not care about black on black inner city crime. All that BLM has done is destroy black neighborhoods and businesses.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/12/9018...tests-come-at-great-cost-to-black-owned-busin

 

[LainaGabranth]

All that BLM has accomplished is making the founders of the organization rich. They have never given back to black communities. They also do not care about black on black inner city crime. All that BLM has done is destroy black neighborhoods and businesses.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/12/9018...tests-come-at-great-cost-to-black-owned-busin

Oh right, because all political dissent comes exclusively from the organization. What is it with you weirdos on the right and exclusively thinking in terms of corporate power and organizations?? Anti-police brutality movements have always come from grassroots "boots on the ground" protesting and approaches. Sorry that you're too delusional to recognize history.

 

[SyphenFreht]

All that BLM has accomplished is making the founders of the organization rich. They have never given back to black communities. They also do not care about black on black inner city crime. All that BLM has done is destroy black neighborhoods and businesses.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/12/9018...tests-come-at-great-cost-to-black-owned-busin

Didn't the office that killed George Floyd recently getting imprisoned? That seems like a pretty big accomplishment.

It's pretty naive to think people who organize and execute these kinds of ideas won't profit in some way. If you're spending all your time fighting for civil rights and worthy causes you're not going to have time to hold down a full time job. We can argue the ethics behind how much they earned and what they deserve all you want, but that doesn't excuse the fact that it's normal and it's like that in just about everyone movement. Leaders get idolized and treated like royalty.

The difference here is, regardless of who profited from it, it made racism a topic that needed dealt with, again. We shouldn't be having systemic racism in 2022 in a country that's been operating for 300 years. The fact that you align yourself with these alt rights is disheartening; I mean, it's in their name: conservative. They don't like change, and they've been big mad for centuries that anyone outside an old white man is finally getting closer to the same status they are.

Alt rights are pathetic. Plain and simple.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Oh right, because all political dissent comes exclusively from the organization. What is it with you weirdos on the right and exclusively thinking in terms of corporate power and organizations?? Anti-police brutality movements have always come from grassroots "boots on the ground" protesting and approaches. Sorry that you're too delusional to recognize history.

You managed to avoid my entire argument.

 

[LainaGabranth]

You managed to avoid my entire argument.

You don't have one. The corruption of a corporation doesn't devalue the authenticity of protesting racial injustice.

 

[TraderPatTX]

You don't have one. The corruption of a corporation doesn't devalue the authenticity of protesting racial injustice.

It does when it is enriching people and not helping those they supposedly support. You overlook it because you support them. That's on you, not me.

 

[LainaGabranth]

It does when it is enriching people and not helping those they supposedly support. You overlook it because you support them. That's on you, not me.

Because the BLM "organization" is the only group, ever, in the history of the world, to financially support anyone.

You. Do not. Have. An argument.

 

[appleburger]

BLM is decentralized: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

 

[TraderPatTX]

Because the BLM "organization" is the only group, ever, in the history of the world, to financially support anyone.

You. Do not. Have. An argument.

Even blue states like Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey and New Mexico have revoked their charitable registration with California and Washington threatening them.

I'm pretty sure the problem is not that I don't have an argument, it's that you can't defend your position.

https://nypost.com/2022/02/06/black...a-lesson-about-causes-deemed-beyond-question/

Aaaaaaaand she resigned. Totally on the up and up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57277777

 

[TraderPatTX]

BLM is decentralized: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

Sure it is.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

 

[LainaGabranth]

Even blue states like Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey and New Mexico have revoked their charitable registration with California and Washington threatening them.

I'm pretty sure the problem is not that I don't have an argument, it's that you can't defend your position.

https://nypost.com/2022/02/06/black...a-lesson-about-causes-deemed-beyond-question/

Aaaaaaaand she resigned. Totally on the up and up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57277777

Because the BLM "organization" is the only group, ever, in the history of the world, to financially support anyone.

You. Do not. Have. An argument.

 

[AdamCatalyst]

Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Wisconsin, South Dakota, West Virginia, and more to follow.

I only asked for one, because I only have time to look up the laws for one. I liked up the first one you provided me Missouri. The current law clearly states that abortion is legal in Missouri. In fact, it is more legal and readily available than virtually all of Europe.

If I research the other states, will I find that abortion is legal there as well? Where, exactly, are you getting your information about laws from? It seems like you are making some highly inflammatory false statements here. Are you aware that you are spreading false information?

 

[The Catboy]

Police work is hard. Probably one of the hardest jobs in the country. I'm sure defunding them so they train less than they already do will be just what the police departments need to improve things.

Where in my post did I bring up defunding the police? Please quote that part for me

 

[appleburger]

Sure it is.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

That's not even the only blm organization. There's more than one, and this isn't new with movements, Civil Rights movement had multiple groups as well, but the movement overall is decentralized. It's clearly defined and recorded as such.

It's not up for debate.

 

[TraderPatTX]

That's not even the only blm organization. There's more than one, and this isn't new with movements, Civil Rights movement had multiple groups as well, but the movement overall is decentralized. It's clearly defined and recorded as such.

It's not up for debate.

That is the official organization that received millions in funding. That is the one that is in trouble and one of the founders was forced to step down. You trying to make excuses for it just shows how partisan you are. Corruption is corruption. It's not up for debate.

 

[SyphenFreht]

You managed to avoid my entire argument.

Ok now we're getting somewhere fun. So I firmly believe abortion rights exist for what most people...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pb...rturning-roe-was-more-about-politics-than-law

...seem to be at least a necessity, if not a morally correct thing to have. However, I can't necessarily disagree with your reasoning behind this.

I don't believe abortion rights, and by extension the argument for bodily autonomy, was created as a racist tool for population control. However, as quite a lot of other things America has fought for and implemented to some degree, it's been politicized and used to fan the flames of separation. Hatred. Racism, in this case particular.

Pro life advocates usually have a hard time arguing outside of religious background, whether because they don't understand it or the person they're arguing with didn't have religious backgrounds being irrelevant, and as we've seen since Roe v Wade, the legality of it seems to be losing steam as well. As such, it's been used to fan the theory of racism, when in fact multiple studies have been done that disproves it. Ask for links and I'll give them.

The fact of the matter is, *if* your reasoning is correct, *if* your statistics were accurate, who's forcing them to have abortions? How are abortions being used as population control? If black people are using abortion clinics to cut back on repopulation, wouldn't that be a result of how badly America is treating them as a nation? And regardless of the reasoning, why should it matter to alt right Republicans, or Democrats for that matter, if both parties have such disdain for the black race running rampant through there platforms?

I could believe to some extent that particular conspiracy, because the Tuskegee Experiments and Mk Ultra definitely happened. But it seems backward to abolish something those you hate use to control their own population.

The last issue with your argument is, even if it was true, that only reinforces the idea that people are products. The most glaring comparison? How do you keep the items you're selling from fluctuating in profit during tumultuous times? Inventory control. Order a lot when demand is high, pull back in supply when demand is low. How do you ensure that the people you're indebting, exploiting, lording over and controlling never lose value?

Population control.



Your constant attempts at altering history to prove your point without any adequate proof are irrelevant.



Hopefully it's not these folks:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/republicans-100-far-right-candidates-2022

...because evidently a lot of them are related to extremist groups, like the Proud Boys. If that's the case, maybe you people should secede, because right now

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/registered-voters-by-party

...republicans account for roughly a little over 10% of the current American population, of which both Democrats and Independents control little more than 70% combined. So unless you guys can induct at least the remaining 20% by election time, your civil war isn't going to last long.

Especially not if these Republican politicians keep aborting their babies:

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/w...ons-for-ex-wife-and-mistress-is-running-again

https://www.thecut.com/2018/08/orr-head-scott-lloyd-helped-ex-pay-for-abortion.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...eek-re-election-after-report-on-abortion-requ

"Look Mommy, those are RINOs"

Yeah? Care to provide some or is this more of your hollow "whataboutism" arguing?

You also seem to forget that BLM a movement *originally* created to fight systemic racism, especially at the hand of trigger happy racist cops, existed to fight this kind of crime, and has been demonized by the Republicans since it's inception.

So which is it? Do Republicans love black people or hate them?

And what in the world does this have to do with abortions?



Hey, check this out:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

Tl;Dr?

Basically it states that their job is not to protect you, a citizen, from any situation that could involve the harming of an officer, unless it's in regards to someone in custody.

Aaaaaand, they can no longer be sued for not reading someone their Miranda Rights, which sounds trivial until you realize that a cop can now essentially arrest you for any reason, offer no protection until you're actively in custody, and not be sued for any of it.

Hard? I've seen 15 years working harder jobs at fast food joints. I wish I could be a glorified ticket taker in a vehicle with $20,000 in military equipment they don't need to not protect the innocent.

Isn't the police force usually backed by government? State at the state level, federal agents by the federal government, yada yada yada. It's almost like you demonize people who are supposedly for big government in one post and then lick boots in the next.

You better give me something good this time. I *wasted* all that time in my second to last response to you, and it was beautiful.

Notice me, senpai

Bruh...

It's nothing but one hypocritical statement after another with you. No wonder everyone laughs at Republicans. You're a dying breed, and y'all are dying quickly. The world will be a better place without you people constantly subjugating and oppressing.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Where in my post did I bring up defunding the police? Please quote that part for me

So you want to play coy.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Bruh...

It's nothing but one hypocritical statement after another with you. No wonder everyone laughs at Republicans. You're a dying breed, and y'all are dying quickly. The world will be a better place without you people constantly subjugating and oppressing.

We are dying so much that voter registration in Florida just flipped from majority Dem to majority Rep. Ok champ. You can sit there and believe your own lies, but I don't have to.

 

[SyphenFreht]

We are dying so much that voter registration in Florida just flipped from majority Dem to majority Rep. Ok champ. You can sit there and believe your own lies, but I don't have to.

That still only accounts for 10% of the overall population. That was proven in the links you skipped. You can believe the lies corporate media feeds you but we don't have to.

 

[The Catboy]

So you want to play coy.

Don’t try to gaslight me. I didn’t not even imply that was my position in that post. My actual position on police reform is far more nuance and not relevant to my original post nor even this thread.