Homebrew Region Changing without 4.x sysNAND?

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He was talking about the SecureInfo injection though.

Did you delete the key titles BEFORE installing the region swapped CIAs?

BTW, as far as what I did to try to make sure there would be no missing titles, remember, I didn't start from 9.0. I merged O4.2, O4.5, O5.0, O6.1, O7.2, O8.1, N9.0, and N9.1 overwriting each time with the newer over the older all from the files in the same folder shared on that site. Then I removed the titles they said to exclude (I actually moved them to another folder just in case) and then I went through the process to remove the Japanese titles on my N3DS, then finally I installed the CIAs from the region change set I'd built using sysUpdater (since nothing else will batch install without completely freaking out a third of the way for me and manual installing them freaks out about half of the way I presume as the home or something gets changed. This is why sysUpdater reboots the system instead of returning to the host software...) I think I went with the "update" option so it wouldn't overwrite same version duplicate titles.


Yes, I think so. But remember, for now you need to stay on an emuNAND no higher than 9.5, so you'll want to update with a ROM for now. (Note that it's tricky to do this. I'm not sure if it's safe in rxTools, but in Gateway you have to hold the up button on the d-pad while starting GW mode or else it won't work right at all and could brick the emuNAND. I couldn't find any info on updating in rxTools and I still have GW, so I just used it to be on the safe side. Plus I didn't want to install such a massively uninteresting game on my system just to update anyway, lol.)

Look in the first page for the link that was given to me.

Have you tried emunand 10.3 and if so were you able to boot U region crypto locked apps?
 

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Did you use gateway to run sysupdater or did you use rxtools?
rxTools. I hate using Gateway except when I absolutely have to since that cartridge eats battery life even when not really being used if it's in and it's a pain taking it out and putting it in. (When will Gateway learn they need to sell a software service instead of trying to force a reliance on outdated hardware? They're even so determined to hold onto it that they made stuff like their cheat engine save data to the MicroSD in the GW card instead of the system SD card -- which had to be really hard to implement...)

EDIT: I was reading that a lot of people had problems with the eshop after region changing. Thought I would let you know.
Could be. I can't really test this right now since I'm still on 9.5 emuNAND. I'm not going to mess with those new 9.6+ CFWs until they're a bit more mature. I'm still upset at how massively alpha status even rxTools seems to have become these days.
 

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Could be. I can't really test this right now since I'm still on 9.5 emuNAND. I'm not going to mess with those new 9.6+ CFWs until they're a bit more mature. I'm still upset at how massively alpha status even rxTools seems to have become these days.

You can always back up your emuNAND. FWIW booting into 10.3 seems more consistent than 9.5 was. Being able to use J eshop on J emunand is also pretty sweet, as is being able to easily boot into U carts that need firmware > 9.5. That said rxTools' update will likely come soon so not much harm in waiting (...unless a 10.4 update is released that breaks this).
 

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Are you doing the SecureInfo part? Just open rxTools' menu by holding L when booting it, go to the part for dumping on the donor system and dump the SecureInfo_A from there, copy that file from the rxTools folder on the donor system's card to the swapped system's card, and when you get to the part of the process where they explain a really complex way of modifying the emuNAND to put that SecureInfo_A in there, just go to rxTools' menu and inject from there before starting the swapped emuNAND that first time after the reset. It's almost scary how easy that is really.

You can always back up your emuNAND. FWIW booting into 10.3 seems more consistent than 9.5 was. Being able to use J eshop on J emunand is also pretty sweet, as is being able to easily boot into U carts that need firmware > 9.5. That said rxTools' update will likely come soon so not much harm in waiting (...unless a 10.4 update is released that breaks this).
Partially I don't particularly trust how reliable it would be, partially I really don't want to deal with switching to yet another CFW. I don't need the eShop I guess, but it's worth a reminder here that this is a region swapped system, so it would be a US eShop on a US emuNAND versus the host system being Japanese.
 

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Partially I don't particularly trust how reliable it would be, partially I really don't want to deal with switching to yet another CFW. I don't need the eShop I guess, but it's worth a reminder here that this is a region swapped system, so it would be a US eShop on a US emuNAND versus the host system being Japanese.

[Edited to reflect the fact that Nazosan did not region swap his sysnand. The instructions in this thread have not been confirmed to work to successfully region swap a sysnand].

What I've read has suggested the US eShop doesn't work on region swapped systems unless you used a donor SecureInfo_A from a 3DS that had never connected to the internet, but I could be wrong.
 
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No no no. I just did the emuNAND. I worded that wrongly perhaps, but I didn't think the distinction needed to be so clarified. Do not region swap sysNAND without a hardmod. Just to be clear to everyone here. Things go wrong with this stuff if you so much as look at the system wrong.

But yeah, my donor system has been connected to the eShop before, so I guess that's out. Darn. Ironically it used to be my 100% legit system where I had actually legally downloaded tons of stuff but, well, times take their toll.
 

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But yeah, my donor system has been connected to the eShop before, so I guess that's out. Darn. Ironically it used to be my 100% legit system where I had actually legally downloaded tons of stuff but, well, times take their toll.

In the event it still boots (I think you mentioned bricking it) you can dump your ticket.db and then download what you bought from Nintendo using FunkyCIA2.
 

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"Times take their toll" was my way of saying more simplistically that "it's a long story." Simply put though, at some point I did a system transfer to a New 3DS XL. A system which I utterly hated. Too big, too uncomfortably shaped for my hands (I'm not a big hamfisted football star which appears to be Nintendo's target audience,) and too heavy. I tried to do a trade a while back with someone and since you can't transfer from a N3DS to an O3DS at that time I wiped the emuNAND completely to a blank slate. Thus that bought stuff is gone forever. It doesn't matter. The law doesn't agree with me, but I still maintain that once we've bought the rights to play something we've actually bought the rights to play something and not just on one specific device locked down and non-transferable to other devices. In other words, I'm actually pirating the games I legally paid for because as far as I'm concerned I legally own the right to play them no matter what Nintendo thinks to the contrary. (And frankly I'm not so sure the law disagrees, though it sure would be a long, drawn out, and expensive hassle to try to prove it in court.)

Ironically now I'm moving from that 2DS I was using all this time to a New 3DS, but the damage is done and done. It's formatted and there's no going back. I did finally manage to sell it to a friend though. So they're starting with a completely clean system (and it will have legal working eShop access later for them. No region swapping, no messing with the SecureInfo, etc etc.)

Anyway, the relevant ticket.db is long gone forever. The currently bricked 2DS has definitely been on the eShop before though. I bought several while I was on it. That was after I had decided to go all digital and just to heck with cartridges (but before Gateway came to <= 9.2 firmwares and I could have just dumped all of my cartridges.) Oh, fun fact. I had a cartridge of Ocarina of Time 3D and sold it to a bloody gamestop for about 1/10th of what it's worth now. I can't tell you how much I'm kicking myself over that.
 

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"Times take their toll" was my way of saying more simplistically that "it's a long story." Simply put though, at some point I did a system transfer to a New 3DS XL. A system which I utterly hated. Too big, too uncomfortably shaped for my hands (I'm not a big hamfisted football star which appears to be Nintendo's target audience,) and too heavy. I tried to do a trade a while back with someone and since you can't transfer from a N3DS to an O3DS at that time I wiped the emuNAND completely to a blank slate. Thus that bought stuff is gone forever. It doesn't matter. The law doesn't agree with me, but I still maintain that once we've bought the rights to play something we've actually bought the rights to play something and not just on one specific device locked down and non-transferable to other devices. In other words, I'm actually pirating the games I legally paid for because as far as I'm concerned I legally own the right to play them no matter what Nintendo thinks to the contrary. (And frankly I'm not so sure the law disagrees, though it sure would be a long, drawn out, and expensive hassle to try to prove it in court.)

Ironically now I'm moving from that 2DS I was using all this time to a New 3DS, but the damage is done and done. It's formatted and there's no going back. I did finally manage to sell it to a friend though. So they're starting with a completely clean system (and it will have legal working eShop access later for them. No region swapping, no messing with the SecureInfo, etc etc.)

Anyway, the relevant ticket.db is long gone forever. The currently bricked 2DS has definitely been on the eShop before though. I bought several while I was on it. That was after I had decided to go all digital and just to heck with cartridges (but before Gateway came to <= 9.2 firmwares and I could have just dumped all of my cartridges.) Oh, fun fact. I had a cartridge of Ocarina of Time 3D and sold it to a bloody gamestop for about 1/10th of what it's worth now. I can't tell you how much I'm kicking myself over that.

If you used a nnid on your old 3ds and still have the details and your 2ds still works, you can call nintendo tell them you lost your 3ds and see if they can move your account to your 2ds and then you'll be able to redownload your stuff.

Also Best Buy has cart copies of oot 3ds, so you can always rebuy it.
 

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I don't need OOT3DS. Though I have to say I've never seen it at Best Buy. I have Cubic Ninja bought back when it went way down to $40 (which was still ridiculous for such a crappy game, but worth it for all the times it has helped and saved me before BrowserHax.) And the SecureInfo is now on my region swapped Japanese N3DS (in emuNAND.) I'm not sure I _WANT_ to call Nintendo about this. I don't know why, but they will not release the standard sized N3DS in the US still, so this is necessary and I'm not messing with it. Anyway, like I said, I'm satisfied with "pirating" the games I bought to play them. And any time from now on I actually buy one I'll actually go back to cartridges and then dump the cartridge myself (it's not exactly hard thanks to Gateway) or if it's protected or something, just download that too. It has gotten so super easy to convert games to CIAs and install them internally that I just don't see any point making a hassle of this.
 

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I don't need OOT3DS. Though I have to say I've never seen it at Best Buy. I have Cubic Ninja bought back when it went way down to $40 (which was still ridiculous for such a crappy game, but worth it for all the times it has helped and saved me before BrowserHax.) And the SecureInfo is now on my region swapped Japanese N3DS (in emuNAND.) I'm not sure I _WANT_ to call Nintendo about this. I don't know why, but they will not release the standard sized N3DS in the US still, so this is necessary and I'm not messing with it. Anyway, like I said, I'm satisfied with "pirating" the games I bought to play them. And any time from now on I actually buy one I'll actually go back to cartridges and then dump the cartridge myself (it's not exactly hard thanks to Gateway) or if it's protected or something, just download that too. It has gotten so super easy to convert games to CIAs and install them internally that I just don't see any point making a hassle of this.

Why did you take it off the other one, no need to do that afaik.

Technically nintendo are on track to have release the small n3ds twice (of course three months after I got more mine...) the animal crossing and pokemon bundles. That said the black one is clearly the nicer one which they haven't released.

Oot looks to be in stock on best buy online: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/the-leg...-3ds/2582044.p?id=1218336885241&skuId=2582044
 

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Why did you take it off the other one, no need to do that afaik.
I was hoping that would make it a completely valid region-swapped N3DS that could use the eShop and all (more about just so games would all 100% work, updates would work, etc etc.) I didn't know it had to be from a system that never accessed the eShop at all. I was hoping to swap in the generic SecureInfo from "that site" so it would still minimally function but not have the same SecureInfo as this one to potentially cause problems down the road. It's really not that big of a deal. Honestly, I've been afraid to do a hardmod all this time that something would go wrong. Now I have a reason to practice on a system I hadn't even booted up in about a year until the whole downgrade thing came up. (Well, I grabbed Youtube and set it up for Tubehax, but I really don't care that much about homebrew right now except insofar as it can aid other things such as svdt for instance. Right after I set it up for those I shut it back down, packed it back up, and forgot about it again for a while until the downgrades came along.)

Technically nintendo are on track to have release the small n3ds twice (of course three months after I got more mine...) the animal crossing and pokemon bundles. That said the black one is clearly the nicer one which they haven't released.
Really? I never heard about them ever releasing the standard size N3DS here in the US. You have to admit it has been a really long time though... Though, that said, that would be even more expensive probably, come with a game I hate (yes, I hate both,) have a really ugly case I'd have to try to swap out (kind of dangerous even if those models have the faceplates, which I doubt, since I'd have to change the base casing itself probably even IF it had faceplates -- and even without looking it up I'd bet they plan on leaving out the faceplates on US models,) and generally unpleasant. So I'll be happily sticking with my region swapped system. Actually, I'm noticing a few differences here already. For instance, they didn't put that super smooth and slippery glossy finish on this. In Japan you don't have to sell "shiny" things to people just to get them to buy apparently. It has a nice comfortable finish that is much easier to hold, more comfortable buttons, etc etc. I'll bet those models will still do like the US models and be shiny glossy finishes and all that other stuff. I feel like I have a premium model and they've been selling only cheap knockoffs here.

Interesting. I'll bet that doesn't last long. People have been selling them on eBay for ridiculous prices. Understand that I don't need the cartridge though. I was just saying it was upsetting that I sold it at a Gamestop for pitifully small amounts of cash (you know how they royally screw everyone, but the only other decent place around here wouldn't take anything 3DS at the time) and then it goes on eBay for $70+ now. Mind you, it was a long time ago now and that would have been a long time to hold onto it... (And I needed cash then, not a year or two -- or maybe it has even been three? -- from then.) Probably people will start snatching those up to resell at a ridiculous markup. Kind of sad how people profit from scarcity like that.



EDIT: Apparently Gateway already supports 10.3 in emuNAND. I figured it would be weeks yet before they did. Presumably their emuNAND support will be pretty stable, so I guess for now I'll switch back to Gateway until rxTools catches up in a reliable build that we can actually download. (I've tried compiling from source. Not only did that not work, but the process of installing all those components has broken something significantly in my Windows causing numerous things to crash and I'm probably going to have to reinstall. Fun. For starters, why did it come with an alternate cmd.exe that it tries to put earlier in the path?)
 
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