Hacking r4ds w/ 4gb

[DarkAura]

Okay, whatever. As long as games and stuff can be stored, I'm fine.

 

[Grimalkin]

Actually, no there aren't. SD technology is limited to 2 GB because their file system is formatted to FAT16. However, a "homebrewed" version was created and formatted to FAT32 making their limitations at 4GB. That said, there are no 4 GB microSD cards.

I'm not upset about it, I just wanted to see how well you could lie to me

EDIT: Forgot to add - Also note that the Homebrewed 4 GB cards have major fragmentation problems due to the forced formatting.


lol forced formatting!!

how the hell do you do that.....

Hell if I know, I never made the thing. Probably just windows FAT32 formatting in DOS. (My brother's 4 GB card has a 2 GB shell on it).

 

[R1C3 N1NJA]

Actually, no there aren't. SD technology is limited to 2 GB because their file system is formatted to FAT16. However, a "homebrewed" version was created and formatted to FAT32 making their limitations at 4GB. That said, there are no 4 GB microSD cards.

I'm not upset about it, I just wanted to see how well you could lie to me

EDIT: Forgot to add - Also note that the Homebrewed 4 GB cards have major fragmentation problems due to the forced formatting.


lol forced formatting!!

how the hell do you do that.....

Hell if I know, I never made the thing. Probably just windows FAT32 formatting in DOS. (My brother's 4 GB card has a 2 GB shell on it).

BOOTLEG!!

 

[Grimalkin]

BOOTLEG!!

Ugh, don't post wasteful comments like that it's annoying. Anyway, I answered your question:

yes, a 4 GB card does work on the R4 (How well it works, I don't know).

 

[wiithepeople]

edit: nvm

 

[War]

I'm pretty sure the new R4 firmware will support up to 16Gb's? That's what I heard anyway. However, I don't see why you don't just get 2 2Gb cards. It's the same thing, isn't it?

 

[Grimalkin]

The problem is the fact that you'd have to carry two cards around. Also, switch back and forth would be annoying and could cause wear on the R4.

You'd also have to have two installations of firmware and if you cheat, two cheat.dat

Also, memory cards have been notably cheaper than buying two of the predecessors. Generally, buying a larger card could be 15 - 25% cheaper than buying two of the same cards AND it's more convenient.

 

[Nero]

Just tried my brothers Sandisk 4GB MicroSD (non-SDHC)

He uses it for his phone, but whatever. I put the v1.11 Firmware on the MicroSD, pop it in my R4...

It hangs at the Loading Screen.

I try my 1GB Kingston.

It works!

non-SDHC MicroSD have a slim chance of working on the R4. SDHC doesn't work yet. So... 4GB or more on R4DS = NoNo

~Nero

 

[Grimalkin]

Nero, try formatting the card to FAT16 then running it. Although FAT16 doesn't support 4 GB, it's still fully capable of running(without knowing it's a 4 GB, but whatever).

 

[SlCKB0Y]

BOOTLEG!!

Ugh, don't post wasteful comments like that it's annoying. Anyway, I answered your question:

yes, a 4 GB card does work on the R4 (How well it works, I don't know).

What? you mean those cards that you were swearing blindly a few posts ago DONT exist?

I read the last few of your posts and you seem to have a very limited understanding of things like filesystems. Sure certain filesystems can only address up to a certain amount of space, but there is nothing to stop you putting pretty much any filesystem you want onto the cards, other than the fact that the firmware most likely wont support it.

Wasteful comments? What is annoying is your not admitting when you are wrong.

 

[Grimalkin]

What? you mean those cards that you were swearing blindly a few posts ago DONT exist?

I read the last few of your posts and you seem to have a very limited understanding of things like filesystems. Sure certain filesystems can only address up to a certain amount of space, but there is nothing to stop you putting pretty much any filesystem you want onto the cards, other than the fact that the firmware most likely wont support it.

Wasteful comments? What is annoying is your not admitting when you are wrong.

The hardware itself is to blame for it's incompatibility for higher than 2 GB on FAT16. The standard SD host controller before SDHC was finalized had it's limitation on it's own understanding filesystems (limiting to 2 GB). However, like I said before, "Homebrew" chips were created in place of the FAT16 2GB versions -- this allowed faster read & write and better data allocation (since FAT32 uses smaller cluster sizes for anything under 8 GB -- 4 KB to be exact). Prior to the FAT32 Homebrew specifications, the SD Host controller had no understanding of prior data allocation within the FAT32 filesystems (perhaps the SDA did not expect microSD cards to become high capacity at it's creation - even with a new filesystem, the SD Host controller still used the FAT16 cluster-size). Basically, even if you put a FAT32 filesystem onto the 2 GB microSD card, it would still think it was a 2 GB FAT16 card.

EDIT: The SDIO function driver in the Windows SD Bus driver allows for both FAT16 and FAT32 support on SDIO cards.

In most 4 GB non-SDHC cards, they use a modified version of the 4 GB miniSD's firmware. This also causes problems for hardware support, most devices that use a 4 GB non-SDHC card cannot see bits beyond 2 GB.

And no, they don't exist - I don't consider the homebrew versions real because they aren't manufactured by someone with an SDA Licensing membership. Well, except for the fact that Sandisk attempted to make their own 4 GB non-SDHC and failed miserably.

 

[JacobReaper]

I'm pretty sure the new R4 firmware will support up to 16Gb's? That's what I heard anyway. However, I don't see why you don't just get 2 2Gb cards. It's the same thing, isn't it?

hmm, i was pretty sure it would be 32GB

a lot of space anyway

and, if you had 2 2GBs you would need 2 FW's thus, taking up more space than a 4GB

yay, for once i looked smart

 

[War]

I'm pretty sure the new R4 firmware will support up to 16Gb's? That's what I heard anyway. However, I don't see why you don't just get 2 2Gb cards. It's the same thing, isn't it?

hmm, i was pretty sure it would be 32GB

a lot of space anyway

and, if you had 2 2GBs you would need 2 FW's thus, taking up more space than a 4GB

yay, for once i looked smart

Well, I suppose you got me on that. But come on, though. It's not like the FW takes up THAT much space :>

 

[DarkAura]

I'm pretty sure the new R4 firmware will support up to 16Gb's? That's what I heard anyway. However, I don't see why you don't just get 2 2Gb cards. It's the same thing, isn't it?

hmm, i was pretty sure it would be 32GB

a lot of space anyway

and, if you had 2 2GBs you would need 2 FW's thus, taking up more space than a 4GB

yay, for once i looked smart

Two 2 GBs is fine, and the firmware isn't THAT big. Just buy two R4s, two SDs, and keep one R4 and SD hanging on your DS or something. I do that will my EZPass just in case my R4 can't read when I'm out.

And I think that 4 gigs is plenty.

 

[JacobReaper]

I'm pretty sure the new R4 firmware will support up to 16Gb's? That's what I heard anyway. However, I don't see why you don't just get 2 2Gb cards. It's the same thing, isn't it?

hmm, i was pretty sure it would be 32GB

a lot of space anyway

and, if you had 2 2GBs you would need 2 FW's thus, taking up more space than a 4GB

yay, for once i looked smart

Well, I suppose you got me on that. But come on, though. It's not like the FW takes up THAT much space :>

true..

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