[QUESTION] Using HANS for Kernel?

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  1. TheStoneBanana
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    At the risk of making myself look stupid or just being bashed, I wanted to ask a question.

    Considering the fact that HANS has the ability to make modifications to 3DS games, would it theoretically be possible to make a "false" entrypoint (as in, something that's purposefully meant to be exploited) and gain kernel? Would something like this just work for userland? Would something like this work at all?!?

    I ask this because I have little knowledge on how to exploit the system, and its an idea that I've been curious of since *hax 2.5 released last night.
     


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    Entry points is to be able to run code in userland to exploit the kernel. We already have userland access and can write anything we want within it, therefore if we find any exploits, we can make an app that just runs the exploit, no game needed.

    Not a dumb question, though.
     
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    If you can run HANS, you already have an entrypoint.
    And no, it doesn't works like that.
    The kernel is already running. So you have to find an exploit to gain Kernel11/Kernel9 privileges, in the kernel.
     
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    I honestly thought of asking the same question but at the same time it's one of those things that if they don't have access to it in the first place how would that help?

    Would be curious to see if somebody could find a way to do something like that... Somehow have a game reintroduce an older exploit to hack.

    Somebody please modify Cubic Ninja to hack the *hax! Lol
     
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    Probably not. Because if you think about it, Cubic Ninja has kernel access in NinjHax 1 and only userland access in NinjaHax 2. NinjHax 1 only works on 9.2 and below, meaning the flaw is within the system and not really the game I presume.
     
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    The kernel exploit is not in the game. The game is hacked to have an entrypoint. Entrypoints can only run homebrews.
    The kernel is located in the system. So, that's why <=9.2 only are vulnerable.
     
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    I'm aware of this. Just thought it would be funny if someone did that.

    Although I am new to the 3DS Homebrew scene since Hax 2, I am not new to the Exploit scene. (Yay Jailbreaking, yay Rooting, yay Brewing!!!)
     
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    Unless smea releases the Source or someone reverse this, we won't know for a while.
     
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    I think this is going to happen in two weeks or a month =(
     
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    Welp, Is better than "9.9 KERNEL? NEVUR EVUR"
     
  13. DiegitusXD

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    Well,thats true:lol:
     
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    Kernel exploit on 9.3+ is a meme
     
  15. DiegitusXD

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    Yep:rofl2:
     
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    ye boi u can ttotaly use it for kernal xpl0its i have like 8 of them just cuz of smeas new release like omg l0l

    But seriously wtf makes you think that you can kernel exploit with this?
     
  17. TheStoneBanana
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    Thanks for all of the answers.
    It makes sense and I appreciate the fact that you put up with silly little questions like these, as they come in all of the time.

    So, that said, I eagerly await the release of the HANS source to see how it works! :)
     
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    I will wait with you bro! :lol:
     
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    Anything on gateway if anyone would make a kernel exploit it would be them and they have been quiet for some time
    also their flashcart is useless on all firmwares now since it only works from 9.2 and below and CFW can do the same thing except play .3ds files
     
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    I gave my reasoning in the OP. Basically, my thoughts were that if you could modify the game to have a purposeful exploit that it could do... something. If you read it, I even said that I didn't know if it was possible or meant anything, but it was a thought that I had that made me curious.