[PSA] LayeredFS is causing Banwave!!!

Discussion in 'Switch - Backup Loaders & Modchips' started by json, Jun 22, 2018.

  1. json
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    json MUSCLEMAN

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    The evidence is stacking up, and it is looking more and more that LayeredFS is the cause of the bans, not SX OS. People were just trying out SX OS lately because it is out just recently and blaming SX OS while they were getting banned. But Nintendo is just catching up now with the people that ran LayeredFS backups and banning those now.

    I've been running SX OS 1.1 with self-dumped certs and my Switch is always online. Not banned at all. Everything still works online, can open eshop, play online tournaments, everything with own certs.
    Ran a public rom dump a few times that has no cert, and I got the error that you usually get with an invalid cert but that is not causing a ban, that just doesn't let you play online for that particular game. If you inject your own cert again you can play that game online again, no problem.

    EDIT: I also have "Share Error Information" set to OFF in the System settings. This may help in not getting banned
     
    Last edited by json, Jun 22, 2018
  2. GomiHiko

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    To clarify: LayeredFS for backup loading?
    A lot of us are using it for mods.
     
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  3. json
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    json MUSCLEMAN

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    Don't know yet if it is due to mods or backup loading in LayeredFS. But I wouldn't count it out that it could be because of either. But if I would need to make a guess, I would say due to backup loading
     
  4. subcon959

    subcon959 teh retro

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    They deliberately make the bans seem random so its hard to know for sure. My guess would be any mod is unsafe at the moment.
     
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  5. lordhell

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    nope, there is people claiming that never used layeredfs, only used SX pro and still got banned.

    For now, it's seems random. Even people who only made save mod on offline games got a ban.
     
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  6. asnka

    asnka GBAtemp Regular

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    Post sources.plz
     
  7. trOublie

    trOublie Advanced Member

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    Well, I don't really know and no one knows for sure what is it, but I'll stay away from being online for a while.

    My switch is offline since 4.1 was released and using SX OS for three days now. I did not mess with LFS/hekate/etc nothing.
     
  8. Draxzelex

    Draxzelex GBAtemp Legend

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    No, people are getting banned without using LayeredFS and using only SX OS
     
  9. NeoSlyde

    NeoSlyde Let us start the game

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    Not banned
    Been using sx os since day one
    Never used LFS

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    Probably fake
     
  10. halcyonknight

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    Definitely seems to be a bit random at the moment, I've only loaded backups through LayeredFS (including forgetting to turn airplane mode on for one session...) and I haven't been banned so far.
     
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  11. Traiver

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    People are getting banned either for backup loading or for the error log's causing LayeredFS.
     
  12. JJTapia19

    JJTapia19 I fight for my friends.

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    As long as I use an offline game on airplane mode via layeredfs, I think I'm safe.
     
  13. Draxzelex

    Draxzelex GBAtemp Legend

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    If you are going to say one user's report is fake, then all are at risk of being fake.
     
  14. lukhart

    lukhart GBAtemp Stand User

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    Even doing this, you can still get banned when you go online
     
  15. JJTapia19

    JJTapia19 I fight for my friends.

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    But how or where is it being logged?
     
  16. lukhart

    lukhart GBAtemp Stand User

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    To clarify: neither LayeredFS or SX OS are safe ATM. If you go online with either, be it with a backup game or not, you're at a risk
     
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  17. kamesenin888

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    Dude it was only 1 person! he probably did something else or he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, other SX OS only users have not being banned
     
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  18. lukhart

    lukhart GBAtemp Stand User

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    No one knows yet, but probably the logs are sent to Nintendo when you go online
     
  19. Draxzelex

    Draxzelex GBAtemp Legend

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    That we do not know. But there were users banned after being in Airplane mode using LayeredFS and got banned the moment they turned off the Airplane mode even without LayeredFS

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    And? No one said Nintendo has stopped banning people. It just started today. The bans can keep coming as long as they want them to. You cannot make the assumption TX is safe at the moment.
     
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  20. AceVader0

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    Judging by what I’ve seen so far, I’d say the safest way right now is using self-dumped backups (meaning, games with valid certificate) under SX 1.1

    Any other method to run games is too suspicious log-wise. Specially games under SX 1.0 with no cert at all.

    Anyway, as long as downloading updates is possible, I couldn’t care less about the banhammer.
     
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