PS5 Exploit Guide

yankii · May 1, 2025

Is something like the Switch's LayeredFS possible on PS5 for game modding? I have a moddable unit [<FW5 I think] available near me but I only want it if I can mod my games.

madbrainx · May 1, 2025

AlphaBravo said:
@madbrainx LUA has the "Restore" method so you can import someone else's setup and save files

You're right, I forgot. Only PS5 Slims and Pros need a psn activated account on LUA.

Mc_Kuc · May 1, 2025

Did someone try the auto bdjb shown in the video?

TheBeardedGamer · May 1, 2025

KiiWii said:
That latest 1.0.8 AIO is pretty recent.

Nothing is truly future proof, because new stuff comes out all the time

Use a RW disc

yeah that’s true, I believe I used three different ISO’s already. Thanks again. I know they all have the usb function, so that could be convenient when payloads update.

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Just waiting on PS5 trophy support and PS4 DLC support

iguanoPT · May 1, 2025

madbrainx said:
[TABLE=full]
[TR]
[TH][/TH]

[TH]Lua[/TH]
[TH]BDJ[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Firmware compatibility[/TD]
[TD] Support latest 11.20 firmware[/TD]
[TD] Only supports up to firmware 7.61[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]UMTX payload speed[/TD]
[TD] Faster UMTX payload[/TD]
[TD] Slower UMTX payload[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Stability[/TD]
[TD] Better stability for most users[/TD]
[TD] KPs for some users when closing media app[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Network requirements[/TD]
[TD] Requires network connection[/TD]
[TD] Works without network connection[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Account req. Slim/Pro[/TD]
[TD] PSN activated account required [/TD]
[TD] PSN activated account not required[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Disc availability[/TD]
[TD] Games are expensive or hard to find[/TD]
[TD] BD burner and discs are easier to obtain[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

The BD-j kernel panics seems to be associated with using the pipelines and loading etahen directly from disk which is a bummer as it would make things simpler. But it also seems to be improved now that etahen only runs after you close the disk application.

Also, the faster UMTX2 is unstable in BD-j for some reason. So UMTX1 (slow) is recommended.

The safer method is likely to use it like LUA and send etahen through socat. The good news is that it is being improved by the minute

Mc_Kuc · May 1, 2025

iguanoPT said:
The BD-j kernel panics seems to be associated with using the pipelines and loading etahen directly from disk which is a bummer as it would make things simpler. But it also seems to be improved now that etahen only runs after you close the disk application.

Also, the faster UMTX2 is unstable in BD-j for some reason. So UMTX1 (slow) is recommended.

The safer method is likely to use it like LUA and send etahen through ftp. The good news is that it is being improved by the minute

The newer versions only have UMTX1 anyway.

lotnybartek · May 1, 2025

@Adam512

Thank you for your tip - reinstalling 4.51 from recovery pup. etaHEN runs smooth as butter - no KP at all - let's see how it goes.

BUT

I had a brain fart. i DID backup: PS5\user\home\user_id\ using FTP but of course after recovery pup reinstall user_id changed and my saves are f**ed.

I need a help here. Any way to recover from this? Resign saves to match my current user_id? Save Wizard and/or Apollo on PS4?

I do not have PS4 (preferably on 9.00) to use Apollo and then ... I have never used it.

Inside my BACKUP on my PC \user\home\user_id\ I have this:

Can anyone with PS4 help me here - kindly please

madbrainx · May 1, 2025

iguanoPT said:
The BD-j kernel panics seems to be associated with using the pipelines and loading etahen directly from disk which is a bummer as it would make things simpler. But it also seems to be improved now that etahen only runs after you close the disk application.

Also, the faster UMTX2 is unstable in BD-j for some reason. So UMTX1 (slow) is recommended.

The safer method is likely to use it like LUA and send etahen through ftp. The good news is that it is being improved by the minute

I thought of that too, but after experimenting with different methods to avoid KPs, I noticed they’d happen even just from running umtx and elfloader, then quitting the media app, sometimes 4-5 times in a row. Since these are the only essential payloads on the bdj, I decided to only send etaHEN (via socat) if I can safely quit the media app. LM mentioned on Discord he’s been seeing the same issue, even without loading any payloads. Interestingly, neither of us run into this when using Lua. I’m on 7.00 and he’s on 6.xx

FateNightroad · May 1, 2025

lotnybartek said:
Which basically gives me nothing as of today. Most of the problems with today's solution are that kstuff is resource intensive and causes various unpredictable actions when running backups.

But disabling kstuff while running a backup solves virtually all my problems.

Not a magic wand to all solutions it seems:

AlphaBravo · May 1, 2025

Not sure how people got by without being able to pause kStuff. If half my PS4 games ran like ass, I would have bought a PS4. I think I happened to JB my console just at right time.

DkAngel666 · May 1, 2025

hello

what do you recommened as blu ray burner ? is verbatim slim external good ?

AlphaBravo · May 1, 2025

DkAngel666 said:
what do you recommened as blu ray burner ? is verbatim slim external good ?

Verbatim 43889

Worked for me. Came with free bd-re disc.
Be sure to buy some verbatim bd-re 25gb. Pack of 5.

Added: Cheaper than the 43888 which had features I didn't need. The drive is a bit flimsy but have no intention to use it for anything else. It's powered off my front usb 3.0 port. I would have preferred an internal but that slot is taken by a HDD on my pc....

DkAngel666 · May 1, 2025

thank you, i will look for this one

Firestarter · May 1, 2025

Am i reading into this correctly, Lua is better and more stable for 7.61?, and fairly future proof for newer FW?
Phat ps5 BTW

madbrainx · May 1, 2025

lotnybartek said:
@Adam512
I had a brain fart. i DID backup: PS5\user\home\user_id\ using FTP but of course after recovery pup reinstall user_id changed and my saves are f**ed.

I need a help here. Any way to recover from this? Resign saves to match my current user_id? Save Wizard and/or Apollo on PS4?

Maybe OffAct lets you switch your current account's user ID back to the previous one.

Adam512 · May 1, 2025

lotnybartek said:
@Adam512

Thank you for your tip - reinstalling 4.51 from recovery pup. etaHEN runs smooth as butter - no KP at all - let's see how it goes.

BUT

I had a brain fart. i DID backup: PS5\user\home\user_id\ using FTP but of course after recovery pup reinstall user_id changed and my saves are f**ed.

I need a help here. Any way to recover from this? Resign saves to match my current user_id? Save Wizard and/or Apollo on PS4?

I do not have PS4 (preferably on 9.00) to use Apollo and then ... I have never used it.

Inside my BACKUP on my PC \user\home\user_id\ I have this:

View attachment 501843

Can anyone with PS4 help me here - kindly please

so hopefully your console won't turn off anymore. Saves are paired with userID, but they can be transferred to another userID. I also think there are tools that will assign your old ID to your "new" account, so even old saves will work. There are more options so don't be sad

KiiWii · May 1, 2025

yankii said:
Is something like the Switch's LayeredFS possible on PS5 for game modding? I have a moddable unit [<FW5 I think] available near me but I only want it if I can mod my games.

AFR and frame4 were useful for that on PS4, I’m not sure about PS5 yet.

lotnybartek · May 1, 2025

Adam512 said:
so hopefully your console won't turn off anymore. Saves are paired with userID, but they can be transferred to another userID. I also think there are tools that will assign your old ID to your "new" account, so even old saves will work. There are more options so don't be sad

Can you PM me?

RKuken · May 1, 2025

AlphaBravo said:
Not sure how people got by without being able to pause kStuff. If half my PS4 games ran like ass, I would have bought a PS4. I think I happened to JB my console just at right time.

Which ones? I'm on 4.50 and use fontface+kstuff to load/play ps4 games since the beginning. They run fantastic. Just finished playing Tales through daybreak II. Also played other ps4 games like RDR @ 60fps and few others blanking out on specific names. Never any issues, especially frame drop or any slowness related

AlphaBravo · May 1, 2025

RKuken said:
Which ones? I'm on 4.50 and use fontface+kstuff to load/play ps4 games since the beginning. They run fantastic. Just finished playing Tales through daybreak II. Also played other ps4 games like RDR @ 60fps and few others blanking out on specific names. Never any issues, especially frame drop or any slowness related

That's good to hear. The first game I installed was Sekiro (NTSC). Fast paced action game that runs in 60fps. It ran terribly with kStuff enabled. Gave me headache. Perhaps I was unlucky but it would seem that ps5 games benefit more from that feature.

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