PS4 to Stream PS3 Games

[VMM]

Odds are the PS4 wouldn't be able to support PS3 games natively. Before you cry about, remember when the PS3 was able to support PS2 games natively? God that was a lovely $599 price tag.

So would you rather it not be backwards compatible (before you bitch about that, do remember there are plenty of consoles in history that haven't been but people just love them) or for it to not be backwards compatible natively but support game streaming as an option?

I'd rather pay more for full backward compability.
Also, the price would drop with time

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I'd rather pay more for full backward compability.
Also, the price would drop with time

"With time" is hardly useful if a console's gonna be dead for the first few years. No one will buy a $600 console again.

 

[tbgtbg]

Why do you need to play your PS3 games on a PS4 when you still have a PS3?

I know, right? Not like PS3's ever break and you'd rather be able to play them on your new PS4 instead of having to buy a replacement PS3 too when that happens.

 

[VMM]

"With time" is hardly useful if a console's gonna be dead for the first few years. No one will buy a $600 console again.

PS3 and PSP were expensive and didn't sell well on it's first years.
Yet Sony repeated PSP history with PSVita and probably will do it with Orbis.

Why do you need to play your PS3 games on a PS4 when you still have a PS3?

PS3 is volumous, and Orbis probably will be too.
It's better to have a device to do both to save some space on the living room

 

[Guild McCommunist]

PS3 and PSP were expensive and didn't sell well on it's first years.
Yet Sony repeated PSP history with PSVita and probably will do it with Orbis.

The Vita wasn't expensive when it came out, it has pricier hardware than the 3DS and the 3DS was priced the same. It's just expensive in relation to the 3DS currently.

 

[Foxi4]

Cheaper NextGen Console > Backwards Compatibility, especially if it's poor.

I'll be perfectly honest, this is going to be an "issue" only for the first year after the console's released - when we get the first batch of PS4 games, nobody's going to care much about BC anymore. PS3's Backwards Compatibility was not without hiccups - games simply looked "worse" and it's similar with the 360 and its limited BC. The only reason why the Wii had fantastic Gamecube compatibility was that it was practically a Gamecube on steroids - this is not a similar case since it's very likely that Sony completely switched architectures.

 

[VMM]

The Vita wasn't expensive when it came out, it has pricier hardware than the 3DS and the 3DS was priced the same. It's just expensive in relation to the 3DS currently.

Alright, but I think you got what I was trying to say.

PS3 had a slow start, but with time it sold a lot of unities.
77 million of sold units is a lot.

Even if PS4 starts costing $600, with time it probably will succedd just as PS3

Cheaper NextGen Console > Backwards Compatibility, especially if it's poor.

I'll be perfectly honest, this is going to be an "issue" only for the first year after the console's released - when we get the first batch of PS4 games, nobody's going to care much about BC anymore. PS3's Backwards Compatibility was not without hiccups - games simply looked "worse" and it's similar with the 360 and its limited BC. The only reason why the Wii had fantastic Gamecube compatibility was that it was practically a Gamecube on steroids - this is not a similar case since it's very likely that Sony completely switched architectures.

Everything points that PS Orbis will use an AMD CPU.
That architecture is drastically different from PS3 Cell CPU.
I'm not surprised Orbis won't support BC, and I understand it would increase a lot the cost,
but I'd rather pay more for a Orbis with BC compability.

 

[Foxi4]

Everything points that PS Orbis will use an AMD CPU.
That architecture is drastically different from PS3 Cell CPU.
I'm not surprised Orbis won't support BC, and I understand it would increase a lot the cost,
but I'd rather pay more for a Orbis with BC compability.

Nothing points to AMD CPU usage outside of the Dev Kit, I think I explained that a zillion times. We'll be sure when the console is actually annouced. As for BC Compatibility, I'd love one of the earlier rumours to come true - that Sony would release a separate CELL Add-On with just the CPU and a radiator in it that could be attached to the console via some kind of a serial port - then anyone interested in BC would be able to "pimp their console" with it.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Everything points that PS Orbis will use an AMD CPU.
That architecture is drastically different from PS3 Cell CPU.
I'm not surprised Orbis won't support BC, and I understand it would increase a lot the cost,
but I'd rather pay more for a Orbis with BC compability.

You're a minority though and companies don't cater towards the minority consumer base.

Maybe, if we're lucky, they'll make an "Elite" bundled PS4 that has backwards compatibility and some other gizmos. Considering that's all the rave (Vita with WiFi and WiFi/3G models, Wii U with regular and premium bundles, etc), it's not surprising. However this is just completely theoretical and there's no proof to support this.

 

[VMM]

Nothing points to AMD CPU usage outside of the Dev Kit, I think I explained that a zillion times. We'll be sure when the console is actually annouced.

Since all the developers kits, we know about, use AMD CPUs, it's highly likely it will use an AMD CPU.

As for BC Compatibility,
I'd love one of the earlier rumours to come true - that Sony would release a separate CELL Add-On with just the CPU and a radiator in it that could be attached to the console via some kind of a serial port - then anyone interested in BC would be able to "pimp their console" with it.

That would be awesome.
If that really happened I'd gladly buy PS Orbis and this Add-On

 

[Foxi4]

Since all the developers kits, we know about, use AMD CPUs, it's highly likely it will use an AMD CPU.

All the development kits use AMD CPU's because the programming tools that are installed on them are for x86_64 CPU's - whether the architecture those tools will compile for is x86_64 or not a is still unknown, the actual console CPU could be on an entirely different die/card (for debug purposes) or it could be a separate unit entirely. It's not uncommon y'know.

 

[VMM]

You're a minority though and companies don't cater towards the minority consumer base.

Maybe, if we're lucky, they'll make an "Elite" bundled PS4 that has backwards compatibility and some other gizmos. Considering that's all the rave (Vita with WiFi and WiFi/3G models, Wii U with regular and premium bundles, etc), it's not surprising. However this is just completely theoretical and there's no proof to support this.

That, or the solution Foxi said, would be really fine.
If any of this really happen, I can only say to Sony: