1. MasterJ360

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    Its fine Mo the scene hasn't moved forward b/c of the outdated excuses. All we can do now is put our faith in the Flow to get 6.20 released. Another thing about the Flow is that he doesn't stop on 1 firmware, so I wouldn't be surprised if he starts working on 7.2 afterwards.
     
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    ....such as not burning an exploit. Cheaters ruining PSN would be an inevitable and direct side effect, but it’s moot as 7.xx only has kernel read not write.

    I have no doubt theflow0 will come up with something clever.

    @Mo Poge wait and see what’s around the corner. A couple of devs (I won’t name here) have somethings in the works. For saves, trophies, and more ;)

    it’s just a matter of patience as usual.
     
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    You cant have access to PSN unless its on the latest FW in which the exploit doesn't need to be on. Burning an exploit? honestly I think we are going to be using that bit to no end once the OG devs just dont care anymore. I can't help to think there are things left out thats making a ps vita dev do all the cleanup work.
     
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    Well you can grep the PSN passphrase and spoof to get on PSN with 5.05 of you really wanted to....

    As for the Vita Dev.. he has attacked PS4 previously. This is his second attempt at 6.20. It doesn’t seem so simple to me.
     
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    Well I mean if ppl are spoofing with 5.0.5 already then what difference is that gonna make on newer exploits? Why is that being accountable when its already a thing then? I didn't even know psn passphrase was a thing till now tbh
     
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    People aren’t because actually properly spoofing is the part Devs won’t encourage. Mainly because bans will ensue and whiners would want latest updates for their game to play em online. It’s not worth the ear ache.

    I’m just saying it’s possible.
     
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    If it''s really about homebrew Sony should do one day what Xbox One did just do a limited DEV Mode for people to put retroarch and fiddle with homebrew on there... this wouldn't hurt them since nobody can't pirate PS4 games off it. Xbox One is doing fine and still unhacked they dont care about you playing games from 10-20 years ago lol
     
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    Sony gave OOS, and took OOS on PS3. They won’t bother for PS4/PS5 after that debacle.
     
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    Yes I remember it was firmware 3.15 I think? I had linux I didn't really know too much about it all I remember Geohot did something to it and they took it away. I understand why people wouldn't want to give that because initally they want to do something noble by having you run your hombrew and small time emulators but you're always going to find a group of people that want to run pirated games on it.. So that ruins it for evreyone. If Geohot never tried to dig deeper in Linux they wouldn't have took it away.
     
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    I think I remember a CFW called like “3.21 + OOS”. It’s been a while. I was pissed when they removed it. Yay for Hermes and eventually rebug :)
     
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    I have rebug 4.46 it still runs good those were the golden days where you can bypass firmware requirements. Sony and Microsoft stepped their game up
     
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    Hehe my slim 320gb is on whatever rebug was about 3 years ago, boxed up in storage. My original 60gb BC died, replacement I sold for shitloads before cobra/mamba worked on slims.

    PS4 has PS2 classics too so it’s all good.
     
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    My PS2, PS3 and PS4 are in storage my PS4 is on OFW I haven't updated since August since I have the Xbox One and the Switch as soon as I beat the games on my Xbox One I'm going to start playing my PS3 and PS4 again. I have backlog to last for 10 years lol that's why for the next gen I'm not too focused on right now.

    I think nowadays we are super spoiled with modded consoles we have more games than we actually play.
     
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    110% agree.

    lockdown is perfect time to get through backlog, enjoy the quiet, get some air.
     
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    But why have the most devs put their hands on 6.20? Is there anything special about that FW? Their must be a reason they skipped the other FWs (X< 6.20 > Y).
    Please do not say "it is, because of the 6.20 webexploit available, so they try to get kernel or other things", because there wouldn't be a web exploit in the first place, if they would not have focused on 6.20 so deeply. They could have benn focussing on any other FW, but why did they choose 6.20? The most exciting games are released after 6.50, so it would have been better to focus on 6.50 or even 7.0.
    I think there are important "hidden things" we (or at least I) do not know yet.
     
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    This, I have more than 100 games to finish on my hacked ps3. even I have 5.05 ps4 I dont care about exploits..
     
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    Because of the web exploit. ^__~

    Without private keys — the big PS3's fuckup was once in a time event — and without compromising the security chain, the only resort is first finding code execution — and WebKit is a nice thing because a lot of people around the world spend I don't know how many ours picking apart it's code searching for vulnerabilities — and then you need privilege escalation (in between sandbox escape, defeating ASLR, and the other thing they added in FW 5.05 against ROP) but in this case I would say not more than 10~20 people worked on it.

    Sometime you are lucky and someone find a LPE (local privilege escalation) for FreeBSD that can be used on PS4, and I've tried to comb between the release date of the FW 6.20 and the FreeBSD CVEs some time ago but didn't found nothing interesting.

    Geohotz used Linux and HW glitching to defeat the "hypervisor" and dump the kernel, IIRC. Sony removed OOS support when they launched the slim version because they feared piracy, and at the next CCC fail0verflow completely powned the PS3, minus a couple of keys, that were released later by Geohotz.
     
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    Oh realy -.- even though I have mentioned that explicitly AND with a reasoning? Wow. Not funny at all.

    So... to ask in another way: Why did they found the web exploit for 6.20 and not for 5.55 or ANY other FW? Because they focused deeply on the 6.20, right? But why? Why not choose lower or higher FW? Why exactly 6.20? I am kind of sure that a web exploit can be (and could have been) found for any FW before and after 6.20, too.
     
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    It's explained above, hundreds of people around the world search vulnerabilities in Chrome/WebKit, the PS4 scene uses those exploit as a free entry RCE...
     
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    Aren't you talking "in general"? I am asking why specificly 6.20 was chosen (for searching vulnerabilities)? Why not another FW?
     
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