PS3/PSP private keys released.

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Thoob said:
The only homebrew I want to come out of this is a cross-game chat application. I've pretty much given up on Sony implementing this, so hopefully someone can create it now.
i dont care about that i really want a better browser. linux plus firefox or homebrew browser on xmb
 
MFDC12 said:
maybe i am overthinking... but i'm not so sure this will (directly) lead to cfw for the psp. don't we need the preipl keys still? the fact that we can sign homebrew will not help this, will it? if that were true wouldnt the recent kernel exploit be able to do that (since itll run the same way as if it were signed)..
According to Matheiulh (or whatever his name is, can never remember how to spell it), the IPL crypto stuff is in the PS3 too, everything done by Kirk (encryption engine in PSP or something like that) is there.
 
SifJar said:
MFDC12 said:
maybe i am overthinking... but i'm not so sure this will (directly) lead to cfw for the psp. don't we need the preipl keys still? the fact that we can sign homebrew will not help this, will it? if that were true wouldnt the recent kernel exploit be able to do that (since itll run the same way as if it were signed)..
According to Matheiulh (or whatever his name is, can never remember how to spell it), the IPL crypto stuff is in the PS3 too, everything done by Kirk (encryption engine in PSP or something like that) is there.

kirk is hardware not software i thought, so the ipl cant get out through software (i think). but if the ipl keys were also etracted from the ps3 i'd be ecstatic!
 
Rydian said:
Omega_2 said:
ManFranceGermany said:
some XMB hacks which would make it to look like the dashboard would be great!

I suppose, the rest will be used to make some crappy games and for running Linux!
unfortunately, yes it will -_-;
Well if you don't want the hacks you can feel free to not use them...

Oh C'mon. Most "Homebrew" is just bullshit. At least admit it!
Yes some stuff is great, things like movie players, but lets face the reality, Forwarders are made for Piracy on the Wii and what counts is this and nothing else, on Sites like Gbatemp and for every hacked Console.
Look at Homebrew DS and Wii Games....yea, its nice to play around and most Homebrew things are made for Fun and its impressive to see a linux shell on the DS, but this is not what Sony fears, Sony fears the Piracy.
Who cares if the Android Version of Angry Birds will be ported, some guy will maybe play it, but the real Reason for getting a hacked PS3 is not Linux and a crappy ported Version of Gimp, its to play "Backups".

P.S Why should u use Linux to make Homebrew? We have so many nice Tools on Windows, no need for it.
 
I want dolphin ported over. With the leaps it makes over night, eventually it will play 99.99% of GC and 99.99% of Wii game problem free.

Question: you think someone might release a ps3 plugin or patch to allow the wii mote and nuchuk to be use along with the pseye in place of move? It be alot cheaper solution than buying the move kit for those who already own a wii too.
 
MFDC12 said:
SifJar said:
MFDC12 said:
maybe i am overthinking... but i'm not so sure this will (directly) lead to cfw for the psp. don't we need the preipl keys still? the fact that we can sign homebrew will not help this, will it? if that were true wouldnt the recent kernel exploit be able to do that (since itll run the same way as if it were signed)..
According to Matheiulh (or whatever his name is, can never remember how to spell it), the IPL crypto stuff is in the PS3 too, everything done by Kirk (encryption engine in PSP or something like that) is there.


kirk is hardware not software i thought, so the ipl cant get out through software (i think). but if the ipl keys were also etracted from the ps3 i'd be ecstatic!

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Mathieulh
Got the kirk engine keyz
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20 hours ago

kurian2z5
@Mathieulh What about IPL encryption algo itself?
18 hours ago

Mathieulh
@kurian2z5 that's in kirk, I have kirk, well the algo + keys so it's really the same deal.
18 hours ago


kurian2z5
@Mathieulh The ENTIRE kirk was in the PS3? Are the PSP IPL algos even useful on the PS3?
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Mathieulh
@kurian2z5 Well kirk itself isn't in the ps3, the keys and algos are.
18 hours ago
 
Costello said:
i'd rather you avoid posting the keys.

even though yes it's just a big number, you can say pretty much the same thing for any digital content.
everything that's on a computer is just a series of numbers, if you see it that way.

so if digital content is copyrigthed i dont see why those keys, which come in smaller amount of bytes, couldnt be copyrighted aswell.

so please dont post the keys thanks
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I'd have to say for the exact same reason i can't copyright the word "the","and", and "or". I believe the law follows something called common usage (or at least to that effect). Maybe Plagiarism would be appropriate here? Considering the fact that the encryption keys are a set of written instructions.
 
ManFranceGermany said:
Oh C'mon. Most "Homebrew" is just bullshit. At least admit it!
Yes some stuff is great, things like movie players


XBMC for xbox is not just a movie player, it is a full digital video experience for the tv with network streaming, youtube and other plugins support, it plays music, can give you the weather, irc chat ect, there is even an experimental build with a webbrowser. It would of never happened if the xbox was not opened. Homebrew channel on the wii is a very nice thing also. Also homeBrew allows emulators for computers to be run, allowing stuff like win95+ to be run. When a javastack is ported you can have minecraft and all sorts of stuff limited to the power of the machine. I haven't even mentioned all the remote control software there is, WinDS allows you to use your computer from your DS, and there is an analog of it for the psp. Also is DSOrginze is a webbrowser if you have a NDS Light or Original.

Yes most of the homebrew games are 80's level because they don't have multimillion dollar budgets to work with. But the lag that the SDKs have will slowly and steadily close up. But the application programs are relevant and wonderful today. And now the PS3 can be runned with graphics acceleration I'm sure there will be plenty of fun simple homebrew games, but some pretty interesting applications that will use the power now accessible.
 
SifJar said:
MFDC12 said:
SifJar said:
MFDC12 said:
maybe i am overthinking... but i'm not so sure this will (directly) lead to cfw for the psp. don't we need the preipl keys still? the fact that we can sign homebrew will not help this, will it? if that were true wouldnt the recent kernel exploit be able to do that (since itll run the same way as if it were signed)..
According to Matheiulh (or whatever his name is, can never remember how to spell it), the IPL crypto stuff is in the PS3 too, everything done by Kirk (encryption engine in PSP or something like that) is there.


kirk is hardware not software i thought, so the ipl cant get out through software (i think). but if the ipl keys were also etracted from the ps3 i'd be ecstatic!

Twitter
Mathieulh
Got the kirk engine keyz
tongue.gif

20 hours ago

kurian2z5
@Mathieulh What about IPL encryption algo itself?
18 hours ago

Mathieulh
@kurian2z5 that's in kirk, I have kirk, well the algo + keys so it's really the same deal.
18 hours ago


kurian2z5
@Mathieulh The ENTIRE kirk was in the PS3? Are the PSP IPL algos even useful on the PS3?
18 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Mathieulh
@kurian2z5 Well kirk itself isn't in the ps3, the keys and algos are.
18 hours ago

oh awesome
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Very good news indeed, i feel bad for Sony but hey, it was just matter of time before some one would find the keys and make them public. IF dolphin gets ported for ps3 i will be the first one to try it out as a beta tester i would mind at all. Now we play the waiting game to see SOny's reactions and their move
 
Wow Sony is seriously screwed. Now the only possibility for them to stop the abuse for a few hours-days, is to release a firmware with a white list of game id's or headers or something, but it doesn't matter because with the keys you could do the same to homebrew.
xbox 360 next.
 
Geohot added something to his site, apparently made a "Hello World" already.
Geohot said:
...and this is a real self, hello world
although it's not NPDRM, so it won't run off the hard drive
shouts to the guys who did PSL1GHT
without you, I couldn't release this

Won't link to site because of the keys, even though many news sites already are linking to it as a source.
 
kamins said:
Wow Sony is seriously screwed. Now the only possibility for them to stop the abuse for a few hours-days, is to release a firmware with a white list of game id's or headers or something, but it doesn't matter because with the keys you could do the same to homebrew.
xbox 360 next.

I was thinking a white list would make sense but there was a way to change game id's to cover up current loaders and managers so it doesnt really seem like a decent solution.
 
ThatDudeWithTheFood said:
kamins said:
Wow Sony is seriously screwed. Now the only possibility for them to stop the abuse for a few hours-days, is to release a firmware with a white list of game id's or headers or something, but it doesn't matter because with the keys you could do the same to homebrew.
xbox 360 next.

I was thinking a white list would make sense but there was a way to change game id's to cover up current loaders and managers so it doesnt really seem like a decent solution.
Yeah, with key access, they can spoof just about anything now can't they?
 

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