PS Jailbreak - The first PS3 Modchip

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Hasney said:
For those of us who don't care, the ability to run unsigned code will probably allow patched games in the future when newer fw's happen, but that's just more speculation.Thing is this runs the games unpacked, so they can be patched pretty easily since it runs unsigned code already, no CFW needed.

QUOTE(Hasney @ Aug 22 2010, 03:41 PM) However, it may take a while since Sony will have to get it right if they're modifying the boot in any way. They would be foolish to rush that out buggy.
Yeah, not even Sony would risk that.
 
shakirmoledina said:
u may wanna check this out http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/new...nology-11035928
plus it claims as Hasney said, the fix will be soon but unless someone updates
Oddly, that article also claims that geohot's exploit made Sony remove OtherOS (even though Sony removed it with the Slim multiple months before geohot's announcement) and that it was never released, even though it's right here.

Somebody there doesn't quite have all their facts straight, which seems odd to me coming from BBC, but not odd considering it's in the ralm of game systems, where nobody ever had any of their goddamned info straight.
 
Rydian said:
tk_saturn said:
You've done a lot of flaming there, i'm sure you could have done it all in one post instead of double posting. I imagine Zant is now chargrilled.That damn quote block limit always gets in my way so I split things after a few quotes by habit on this forum now.

tk_saturn said:
So, ShopTemp doesn't accept PayPal eh?

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What's that then? Do they need to make the PayPal logo larger for you?
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I don't have a shoptemp account, that doesn't show up when you try to purchase as a guest, and I remember when shoptemp first came out people complaining about the lack of paypal, so I said what I saw.

Lakerfanalways said:
It looks like this device still has a lot of issues to be resolved before it can be released to the public.
The games that don't work could be fixed with an update to the backup program.
The DSTwo shipped at a separate time than it's firmware, after all.




And for those of you complaining about external harddrives not working with NTFS, just get an internal one! The PS3 will accept any laptop (2.5") SATA harddrive, which is what's in most external drives in the first place so it'll actually be cheaper. And it frees up a uSB port, too...

I already picked the internal drive I will be purchasing..found it on Newegg for 100 bucks..its a 750 gig which is really great..and I saw the tutorial on youtube on how to install it..looks like a 5 year old could do it LOL..now as far as the issues with some of the games not working..hopefully these updates will be available to fix the issues with these games before its released..I wont be purchasing an internal drive til I know what is going on


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QUOTE(Hasney @ Aug 22 2010, 11:30 AM)
Some guy on NeoGAF claims to know how the Sony jig works. According to him, all Sony have to do to block this is change the keys in the official USB for devs, modify the boot sequence in the next firmware and they're done.

Take it with a grain of salt, but if true, this easily blocked out if you care about updating.

For those of us who don't care, the ability to run unsigned code will probably allow patched games in the future when newer fw's happen, but that's just more speculation.


I just wont update my PS3..no biggie..in fact I will turn off the wireless on my PS3 so that it cant update no matter what
 
shakirmoledina said:
u may wanna check this out http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/new...nology-11035928
plus it claims as Hasney said, the fix will be soon but unless someone updates

LOL it's on BBC news aswell XD they are wrong, they say the device lets you run homebrew (homemade) and pirate games, WRONG, there is no homebrew for it yet and the games come from backups from your own game collection, god knows how they think that is piracy but you know what the media are like, they take things way out of proportion.
 
jalaneme said:
shakirmoledina said:
u may wanna check this out http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/new...nology-11035928
plus it claims as Hasney said, the fix will be soon but unless someone updates

LOL it's on BBC news aswell XD they are wrong, they say the device lets you run homebrew (homemade) and pirate games, WRONG, there is no homebrew for it yet and the games come from backups from your own game collection, god knows how they think that is piracy but you know what the media are like, they take things way out of proportion.

Technically speaking, the backup loader is homebrew.

And of course it allows piracy. Even if you couldn't download games, renting and ripping games would also be piracy. It was a fairly balanced article, even if one or two points were inaccurate.
 
shakirmoledina said:
u may wanna check this out http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/new...nology-11035928
plus it claims as Hasney said, the fix will be soon but unless someone updates
Lol they failed

Earlier this year, a US hacker who gained notoriety for unlocking Apple's iPhone as a teenager, George Hotz, claimed to have cracked the console.

Following his initial announcement, Sony released an update for the console disabling a function that allowed gamers to install a version of Linux on their machines, thought to have been exploited by Mr Hotz.

Many saw it as a pre-emptive strike to guard against games piracy.

Mr Hotz has never released the exploit and has said publicly that he has given up his work on the console.



Uhm.. never released it? HE DID! http://www.psx-scene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63534
 
Hasney said:
Technically speaking, the backup loader is homebrew.

And of course it allows piracy. Even if you couldn't download games, renting and ripping games would also be piracy. It was a fairly balanced article, even if one or two points were inaccurate.
And with a couple people having actual dev PS3 units, there has to exist homebrew. Just, it hasn't been spread since until this product normal PS3 users couldn't run it.
 
QUOTE said:
Mathieulh:
'Well it looks like psjailbreak is likely based on reverse and exploit rather than on a leak, we still wont be sure without one though'

http://twitter.com/Mathieulh

Interesting if true. If it is an exploitable hole in the PS3 software, it's easier for them to patch. But, as we've seen with the PSP, there's usually more than one hole.

Does mean that Sony's private jig key hasn't been leaked, though.
 
Hasney said:
QUOTE said:
Mathieulh:
'Well it looks like psjailbreak is likely based on reverse and exploit rather than on a leak, we still wont be sure without one though'

http://twitter.com/Mathieulh

Interesting if true. If it is an exploitable hole in the PS3 software, it's easier for them to patch. But, as we've seen with the PSP, there's usually more than one hole.

Does mean that Sony's private jig key hasn't been leaked, though.

Which probably means we'll see a firmware update very soon. All they need to do is do a revocation on the key in the 3.41 firmware and release it as 3.42. Minimal testing required so they could probably get it out in a month. The main issue will be whether the Christmas rush of games will include this updated firmware as mandatory, and whether games that require this future update will run even if the dongle disables the firmware check.
 
True, but there will probably be either a generic patcher or individual game patches for games that require a newer firmware check. Initially anyway, they'll no doubt encrypt executables further down the line to try and make it harder for pirates, kind of how they did with PSP games.
 
Hasney said:
True, but there will probably be either a generic patcher or individual game patches for games that require a newer firmware check. Initially anyway, they'll no doubt encrypt executables further down the line to try and make it harder for pirates, kind of how they did with PSP games.
If you mean 6.20, wasn't that because the games requiring 6.20 actually used a function that didn't exist in the earlier firmwares? Thus the promethus PRX and firmware, adding in the function that was needed.
 
Rydian said:
Hasney said:
True, but there will probably be either a generic patcher or individual game patches for games that require a newer firmware check. Initially anyway, they'll no doubt encrypt executables further down the line to try and make it harder for pirates, kind of how they did with PSP games.
If you mean 6.20, wasn't that because the games requiring 6.20 actually used a function that didn't exist in the earlier firmwares? Thus the promethus PRX and firmware, adding in the function that was needed.

That was essentially what 6.00 introduced, the decryption of encrypted binaries. It still had to support unencrypted binaries for older games though so it could just be decrypted in software before the firmware touched it.

I think 6.20 added a check for games that required 6.20 to make sure they were encrypted before booting, which is where Prometheus had to come in.

I could be wrong, this is all from memory.
 
OK, from what I read, with the usb dongle, you can rip the game to the ps3 hdd, but doesn't it also require you to have the actual disc in the drive for the bd image to load?
 
Xellos2099 said:
OK, from what I read, with the usb dongle, you can rip the game to the ps3 hdd, but doesn't it also require you to have the actual disc in the drive for the bd image to load?

You have to have a game in, but it can be any game. You don't have to have the game you want to play in the drive.
 
I don't think Sony will ban consoles, I think they'll do the same with what they do on PSP. Just not allow users on PSN. If they detect users using the jiggy, then no PSN sign in. If you take it out, you're on.

Would surely make a little more sense rather than copying MS's console bans.
 
Hasney said:
Xellos2099 said:
OK, from what I read, with the usb dongle, you can rip the game to the ps3 hdd, but doesn't it also require you to have the actual disc in the drive for the bd image to load?

You have to have a game in, but it can be any game. You don't have to have the game you want to play in the drive.


I guess it is a good for rpg since rpg usually don't require psn or update to play. But at the price of $150, going to need a lot of good rpg to justify the price.
 

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