Hacking Prilloader 0.8 beta 3 out.

[AbdallahTerro]

Thanks Joost.
What other options do I have if something wrong happens? and what precautions can I take? (other than not messing with priiloader)
I'll stop priiloader testing for now.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Thanks Joost.
What other options do I have if something wrong happens? and what precautions can I take? (other than not messing with priiloader)
I'll stop priiloader testing for now.

You mean if Priiloader installation failed at a critical point? Bootmii as boot2 or having someone flash your NAND with a backup are the only ways to recover from that.

 

[AbdallahTerro]

what about twilight hack?

 

[SifJar]

Would be useless even if it did work on whatever SM you're on. Unless you're on 3.4 or below, it can't be installed anyway. Other savegame hacks e.g. Indiana pwns or return of the jodi etc. would have the same effect on later SMs, but still practically useless in brick situation. You'd need a patch preinstalled or a modchip capable of autoboot or a warezy SM IOS and a patched burnt discount to get into the game, before you even think of loading the exploit. You also need the hacked save already on your wii (unless you use the time consuming workaround for that). On top of all that, it'll still only work if your SM still works, so it would only be useful for banner or theme bricks, not a brick from failed priiloader install.

That is a rather outdated chart (as you should be able to tell from mentions of tw hack, preloader, starfall and cioscorp, all old software that is outdated and replaced).

 

[JoostinOnline]

That is for a partial brick, not a full brick. The System Menu can't be accessed so none of those things would work.

 

[DoctorWhosThat]

The twilight hack doesn't work anymore with later versions of the system menu. Batthax, Return of the JODI and any other save game hack will work though.

 

[AbdallahTerro]

How can we flash a nand? and can we convert the nand backup from another wii if no backup was made?

 

[JoostinOnline]

How can we flash a nand? and can we convert the nand backup from another wii if no backup was made?

You would pay DeadlyFoez (or someone else with the needed equipment and skills) roughly $50 to do it using your keys.bin or nand.bin file (nand.bin is better because you can recover all your old stuff). Purchasing the tools yourself (like an Infectus, which isn't made anymore) would cost far more.

You cannot use a backup from another Wii.

 

[AbdallahTerro]

Thanks again for the info. I hope I'll never reach this situation

 

[SifJar]

You cannot use a backup from another Wii.

Unless you have a keys.bin from your own wii, in which case you probably already have a nand.bin from your own wii too.

 

[JoostinOnline]

You cannot use a backup from another Wii.

Unless you have a keys.bin from your own wii, in which case you probably already have a nand.bin from your own wii too.

Yeah, he asked if you could convert it when you hadn't made a nand backup with the current Wii.

 

[SifJar]

You cannot use a backup from another Wii.

Unless you have a keys.bin from your own wii, in which case you probably already have a nand.bin from your own wii too.

Yeah, he asked if you could convert it when you hadn't made a nand backup with the current Wii.

It is still possible to have/make a keys.bin without ever having made a NAND backup. xyzzy backed up all the keys from the Wii, so one could use the keys dumped by that tool to craft a keys.bin in the correct format for tools like betwiin/punetwiin if one happens to have a xyzzy keys backup (which virtually no one will, but I just like being right)

 

[XFlak]

if the wii has a vulnerable boot1, DeadlyFoez (or anyone with the skills+hardware) can use his infectus to flash bootmii to boot2, then load bootmii, make a nand backup of the damaged nand, and even recovers most if not all of the data on it by fixing the underlying problem. Or if you have DeadlyFoez's tech wii, you can boot into bootmii@boot2, replace Foez's nand from his nandclip and insert the busted nand chip, then make a nand backup of the busted nand using Foez's tech Wii (which is great for repairing wii's without a vulnerable boot1). Anyways, if this interests you, you should check out DeadlyFoez brick repair and infectus tutorials.

 

[SifJar]

if the wii has a vulnerable boot1, DeadlyFoez (or anyone with the skills+hardware) can use his infectus to flash bootmii to boot2, then load bootmii, make a nand backup of the damaged nand, and even recovers most if not all of the data on it by fixing the underlying problem. Or if you have DeadlyFoez's tech wii, you can boot into bootmii@[member='boot2490'], replace Foez's nand from his nandclip and insert the busted nand chip, then make a nand backup of the busted nand using Foez's tech Wii (which is great for repairing wii's without a vulnerable boot1). Anyways, if this interests you, you should check out DeadlyFoez brick repair and infectus tutorials.

That's pretty cool. So he can just swap NANDs while the Wii is on? Out of interest, would it not also work if you flashed vulnerable boot1 and bootmii/boot2 to the NAND then solder it into a wii capable running vulnerable boot1, make a dump, fix it with pc then flash original boot1 and boot2 as well as fixed NAND then solder it back into original wii? Probably easier with NAND clip, but for those without that and with an infectus, that might be an option.

 

[DeadlyFoez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ92Tn7RjeI
The only thing about switching NANDs is that it doesn't give me the keys to the broken wii, but if I already have the keys then it is faster to dump the NAND from my wii than it is from the infectus. ~10 minutes dumping from the wii, ~45 minutes through the infectus. I still generally use the infectus instead.

What is great though, is if I have a nonvulnerable boot1 wii that is bricked and I do have the keys/previous nand dump, I can go and dump the current nand from the brick, convert it to work on my wii using betwiin/punetwiin, fix the error, then convert it back, flash it, solder it. Profit!! Then nothing is lost as far as channels or savegames. I do this type of scenario quite often.

 

[XFlak]

DeadlyFoez would be able to answer better, but that sounds right to me. And IIRC from my DeadlyFoez private lessons, bootmii skips the first X blocks (6 I think) when restoring a nand backup so as to avoid writing to boot1\boot2. So using the method you described, after dumping the busted nand and fixing it you'd have to restore the original boot1\boot2 using infectus (flashing the fixed nand.bin with bootmii would leave boot1\boot2 untouched). Foez has told me quite a few brick repair stories, he's pretty much tackled them all. I've heard stories where he fixed wii's using infectus, or his nand-clip (ie. hotswap nands to access bootmii\homebrew on busted wii), betwiin, punetwiin (sp?), comex's nand formatter, wode+autoboot-disk, and probably more that I'm forgetting.

edit: sweet, ninja'd by DeadlyFoez... prolly the first time I've ever been happy about being ninja'd, lol

 

[Luigi2012SM64DS]

i HAVE installed priiloader 0.8 beta 3.
the dol is an installer and it seems to work fine.(i have bootmii as boot2 so idc if i install priiloader 0.3 and brick it.

 

[XFlak]

The only thing about switching NANDs is that it doesn't give me the keys to the broken wii

I thought you could load bootmii @ boot2 on your Wii, hot swap nands with the busted one, then make a nand backup of the busted NAND (which also dumps the keys)... no? After hotswapping nands, can you load the HBC on the busted nand and try to fix the issue that way, ie. installing non-stubbed SM IOS or something (and install HBC using hackmini.elf if it's missing)?

I'm still amazed at all the shit you know. For those of you who don't know DeadlyFoez as well as I do... he's basically as brilliant about a million other subjects as he is when it comes to brick repair + infectus. I can't even tell you how much nerdy information I've accumulated as a result of befriending him, lol.

 

[DeadlyFoez]

I thought you could load bootmii @ boot2 on your Wii, hot swap nands with the busted one, then make a nand backup of the busted NAND (which also dumps the keys)... no? After hotswapping nands, can you load the HBC on the busted nand and try to fix the issue that way, ie. installing non-stubbed SM IOS or something (and install HBC using hackmini.elf if it's missing)?

You thought wrong
The keys aren't stored on the NAND. If they were then I'd be able to fix ANY wii. But this is why wii's that don't have a vulnerable boot1 or a NAND backup/keys can not be fixed from a full brick.

Since the NAND is encrypted with those keys, once I put the bricked wii's NAND into my wii from hotswapping I am unable to boot into HBC or anything else unless I put my NAND back in. Since my wii has it's own set of encryption keys for the NAND, my wii will try to decrypt the NAND with my keys, but since my keys don't match to the ones of the bricked NAND my wii just sees garbage data.

Actually, to be correct, it isn't the NAND that is encrypted or the filesystem, but instead just the data, but I'm sure everyone gets the idea now.

Also, hotswapping ONLY works while in bootmii. I can not hotswap while in the SM, HBC, or any other homebrew, and if I try to then the wii will just lock up on me. I've tried it in all scenarios.

What I would love to see if it is possible is to write a mini app that will use a NAND.bin from the SD card and use it's keys to be able to do a repair easier. Kinda like SNEEK. I'm sure it is possible, but I highly doubt anyone will be programming that up anytime soon. I've actually asked crediar about it in the past and he said something along the lines of "I won't do it".

 

[Luigi2012SM64DS]

stupid question but how did we get the keys in the first place?