PlayStation Brand Faces Uncertain Future

[FireGrey]

Sony is doing good though...
Good, free online.
Nice exclusives (I would ay Nintendo has the best exclusives though).
Reasonable price games.
I like the PS3.
And everyone is acting like 1-2 Weeks of PSN being down means the end of Sony...

 

[Nathan Drake]

Why people are dumb, a recap:

This is barely going to hurt Sony. As previously stated, Sony has many branches and puts out many different products. They are doing fairly good in nearly every respect. Whether somebody is buying a Sony MP3 player, TV, or game system, Sony is doing good. This also makes the whole argument about Sony's business practices garbage too. I have yet to find one company with what people would consider to be "good" business practices except by maybe the loosest of standards. This doesn't stop people from buying products though.

If you sell your PS3, it doesn't matter, you already bought it, and Sony profited. People are also really dumb for thinking online play makes the console. Do they wonder why so many developers don't try very hard for offline modes anymore when online is available? It's because of people thinking that the online is everything. Enjoy your 360 you short sighted jackass; it doesn't matter to anybody but you.

Sony fucked up, k, we got it. Old news at this point. They've put out the necessary information to help keep the consumer safe, and we'll all move on.

 

[FireGrey]

Why people are dumb, a recap:

This is barely going to hurt Sony. As previously stated, Sony has many branches and puts out many different products. They are doing fairly good in nearly every respect. Whether somebody is buying a Sony MP3 player, TV, or game system, Sony is doing good. This also makes the whole argument about Sony's business practices garbage too. I have yet to find one company with what people would consider to be "good" business practices except by maybe the loosest of standards. This doesn't stop people from buying products though.

If you sell your PS3, it doesn't matter, you already bought it, and Sony profited. People are also really dumb for thinking online play makes the console. Do they wonder why so many developers don't try very hard for offline modes anymore when online is available? It's because of people thinking that the online is everything. Enjoy your 360 you short sighted jackass; it doesn't matter to anybody but you.

Sony fucked up, k, we got it. Old news at this point. They've put out the necessary information to help keep the consumer safe, and we'll all move on.

I'm more of an online gamer cause offline games are usually a bit short.
I like ratchet and clank for offline though.

 

[DSGamer64]

Wait, wait ,wait... The majority of gamers didn't remember the Dreamcast?

That ridiculous. Where the proof?

The PS3 may not be nowhere as successful than the wii, but you can't just kill it off.

I mean if PS3 was the (Wii)WS3 then it wouldn't be getting as much beef, but I would worry/have a little concern of the lack of innovation. Nintendo is all we got for that.

The Dreamcast was an abysmal console from a sales and games perspective. When people talk about great consoles, no one mentions the Dreamcast except for the fanboys who like fringe consoles that ultimately failed. It's like saying the Sega Gamegear was a great hand held, same with the Virtual Boy, they were both miserable failures, no one will remember them for being great, but for being crap. You know what I remember about the Dreamcast? The Sonic Adventure games getting ported to the Gamecube, some of the few great games on it got ported to other platforms at some point, even Sega's own games.

 

[ZaeZae64]

The Dreamcast was an abysmal console from a sales and games perspective. When people talk about great consoles, no one mentions the Dreamcast except for the fanboys who like fringe consoles that ultimately failed. It's like saying the Sega Gamegear was a great hand held, same with the Virtual Boy, they were both miserable failures, no one will remember them for being great, but for being crap. You know what I remember about the Dreamcast? The Sonic Adventure games getting ported to the Gamecube, some of the few great games on it got ported to other platforms at some point, even Sega's own games.

Shenmue 1+2, Grandia 2, Sonic Adventure 1+2, Space Channel 5, Ikaruga, Marvel Vs. Capcom 1+2, Skies Of Arcadia, Crazy Taxi, Phantasy Star Online.
Need I go on?

Edit: Just realized you were talking about games being ported.
But still, even though they were ported, the Dreamcast had them before, which means it did have good games.

 

[DigitalDeviant]

The Dreamcast was an abysmal console from a sales and games perspective. When people talk about great consoles, no one mentions the Dreamcast except for the fanboys who like fringe consoles that ultimately failed. It's like saying the Sega Gamegear was a great hand held, same with the Virtual Boy, they were both miserable failures, no one will remember them for being great, but for being crap. You know what I remember about the Dreamcast? The Sonic Adventure games getting ported to the Gamecube, some of the few great games on it got ported to other platforms at some point, even Sega's own games.

Shenmue 1+2, Grandia 2, Sonic Adventure 1+2, Space Channel 5, Ikaruga, Marvel Vs. Capcom 1+2, Skies Of Arcadia, Crazy Taxi, Phantasy Star Online.
Need I go on?

Edit: Just realized you were talking about games being ported.
But still, even though they were ported, the Dreamcast had them before, which means it did have good games.

To add to that, the Dreamcast failed because of Sega's betrayal of the 3rd party by leaving their previous system obsolete, and forcing the 3rd party to invest in making games for dreamcast, coupled with the looming release of the ps2, the end result was segas final foray into the console arena.

 

[ZaeZae64]

The Dreamcast was an abysmal console from a sales and games perspective. When people talk about great consoles, no one mentions the Dreamcast except for the fanboys who like fringe consoles that ultimately failed. It's like saying the Sega Gamegear was a great hand held, same with the Virtual Boy, they were both miserable failures, no one will remember them for being great, but for being crap. You know what I remember about the Dreamcast? The Sonic Adventure games getting ported to the Gamecube, some of the few great games on it got ported to other platforms at some point, even Sega's own games.

Shenmue 1+2, Grandia 2, Sonic Adventure 1+2, Space Channel 5, Ikaruga, Marvel Vs. Capcom 1+2, Skies Of Arcadia, Crazy Taxi, Phantasy Star Online.
Need I go on?

Edit: Just realized you were talking about games being ported.
But still, even though they were ported, the Dreamcast had them before, which means it did have good games.

To add to that, the Dreamcast failed because of Sega's betrayal of the 3rd party by leaving their previous system obsolete, and forcing the 3rd party to invest in making games for dreamcast, coupled with the looming release of the ps2, the end result was segas final foray into the console arena.

I'm not arguing against the fact that, the DreamCast was a failure. I was just simply stating it did have good games. Probably should have made this clearer.

 

[DigitalDeviant]

The Dreamcast was an abysmal console from a sales and games perspective. When people talk about great consoles, no one mentions the Dreamcast except for the fanboys who like fringe consoles that ultimately failed. It's like saying the Sega Gamegear was a great hand held, same with the Virtual Boy, they were both miserable failures, no one will remember them for being great, but for being crap. You know what I remember about the Dreamcast? The Sonic Adventure games getting ported to the Gamecube, some of the few great games on it got ported to other platforms at some point, even Sega's own games.

Shenmue 1+2, Grandia 2, Sonic Adventure 1+2, Space Channel 5, Ikaruga, Marvel Vs. Capcom 1+2, Skies Of Arcadia, Crazy Taxi, Phantasy Star Online.
Need I go on?

Edit: Just realized you were talking about games being ported.
But still, even though they were ported, the Dreamcast had them before, which means it did have good games.

To add to that, the Dreamcast failed because of Sega's betrayal of the 3rd party by leaving their previous system obsolete, and forcing the 3rd party to invest in making games for dreamcast, coupled with the looming release of the ps2, the end result was segas final foray into the console arena.

I'm not arguing against the fact that, the DreamCast was a failure. I was just simply stating it did have good games. Probably should have made this clearer.

I don't think it failed because of its gaming value, rather poor business decisions by sega, and steep competition by sony.

 

[godreborn]

sony has been losing money rapidly for years to their korean counterparts. sony was number one in electronics not that long ago, but Samsung and LG, both korean companies, r now number 1 and number 2 respectively.

Sony has become complacent in regards to their own position. arrogance is not something that sways consumers but rather repels them. many people hated sony before, and many more hate sony now. they have lost touch with the consumer due to their overly arrogant attitude. they don't know what the consumer wants anymore, so their business sense is: "see what the other guys do now; if it's a success, copy it later."

with this security breach, it is evident that sony doesn't really care about their consumers. say what u will about the hackers, but sony's apparent disregard for their consumers' protection can not be ignored. perhaps, it is the defenders of sony who r partly responsible. they always give sony a free-pass whenever they r screwed over or insulted by their "brilliant" PR stunts, arrogant attitude, and lack of care for their protection.

 

[FireGrey]

sony has been losing money rapidly for years to their korean counterparts. sony was number one in electronics not that long ago, but Samsung and LG, both korean companies, r now number 1 and number 2 respectively.

Sony has become complacent in regards to their own position. arrogance is not something that sways consumers but rather repels them. many people hated sony before, and many more hate sony now. they have lost touch with the consumer due to their overly arrogant attitude. they don't know what the consumer wants anymore, so their business sense is: "see what the other guys do now; if it's a success, copy it later."

with this security breach, it is evident that sony doesn't really care about their consumers. say what u will about the hackers, but sony's apparent disregard for their consumers' protection can not be ignored. perhaps, it is the defenders of sony who r partly responsible. they always give sony a free-pass whenever they r screwed over or insulted by their "brilliant" PR stunts, arrogant attitude, and lack of care for their protection.

and why would you say that >.>

 

[Joe88]

sony has been losing money rapidly for years to their korean counterparts. sony was number one in electronics not that long ago, but Samsung and LG, both korean companies, r now number 1 and number 2 respectively.

LG doesnt out rank sony, far from it in fact

Samsung does but just by a hair judging from their net income

 

[godreborn]

well, for one thing, personal information such as credit card numbers not being encrypted is inexcusable.

Engineer 1: "well, we've created some pretty heavy protection for the ps3. now, what should we do about consumers' information being transmitted over the psn?"
Engineer 2: "who cares about them??? we've made a pretty solid system--that's all that matters."

I imagine such a conversation took place between engineers of sony's R and D team.

another thing is: they consistently insult their customers: "people will buy the ps3 even if it doesn't have any games"? they must think their fanbase is pretty stupid to make such a comment.

they also insult potential customers: "the 3ds is a great babysitting tool"? if they really think that of nintendo, then y r they always trying to emulate them at every chance? if the 3ds were a babysitting tool, then what does that make a knockoff of it?

 

[godreborn]

sony has been losing money rapidly for years to their korean counterparts. sony was number one in electronics not that long ago, but Samsung and LG, both korean companies, r now number 1 and number 2 respectively.

LG doesnt out rank sony, far from it in fact

Samsung does but just by a hair judging from their net income

u r incorrect. LG, on average, makes around 3 times what Sony makes per year. and, Samsung is worth around 180 billion while Sony is worth about 78 billion.

 

[Maz7006]

suddenly Playstation branding sucks since no PSN for some time

stupidist shit i've heard.

 

[OmegaVesko]

1. Sony's gaming division loses brand loyalty (as if they haven't already)
2. Their next console fails epically or doesn't come out at all
3. Someone replaces Sony in the console wars (like what happened with Sega and Atari)
4. ???
5. PROFIT!

 

[Hielkenator]

I say, (Sony should) be sold to Konami. There, a new console will be created that will totally kick ass.

Play nagano winter olympics, and we'll talk again.

 

[Chhotu uttam]

shit no psn for sony.

 

[FireGrey]

well, for one thing, personal information such as credit card numbers not being encrypted is inexcusable.

Engineer 1: "well, we've created some pretty heavy protection for the ps3. now, what should we do about consumers' information being transmitted over the psn?"
Engineer 2: "who cares about them??? we've made a pretty solid system--that's all that matters."

I imagine such a conversation took place between engineers of sony's R and D team.

another thing is: they consistently insult their customers: "people will buy the ps3 even if it doesn't have any games"? they must think their fanbase is pretty stupid to make such a comment.

they also insult potential customers: "the 3ds is a great babysitting tool"? if they really think that of nintendo, then y r they always trying to emulate them at every chance? if the 3ds were a babysitting tool, then what does that make a knockoff of it?

who cares what they say, just play some games >.>

 

[shakirmoledina]

it is still an opinion. If sony were in decline then the company would have closed down for stopping further damage. This focuses more on their gaming side but sony does much more than just ps3s and games.

 

[Hop2089]

I say, (Sony should) be sold to Konami. There, a new console will be created that will totally kick ass.

Play nagano winter olympics, and we'll talk again.

Please don't speak of that again however Konami has the best dating sim to date and a Konami console could have the easy potential for being a Visual Novel and Dating Sim powerhouse. Plus think of the Yu-Gi-Oh games that can be on it. If they can get third party support for Japanese RPGs, SRPGs, and Action RPGs, it would be pretty good, however with those details the console has no chance to sell outside of Asia.