Hacking Play DVDs on RVL-101 without ModChip?

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

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[KleinesSinchen]

Title.

No. RVL-101 is guaranteed to have a drive that wont read any non-Wii discs without a modchip.
And even if you had a Wii capable of reading burned media and video DVDs, it is not a good idea to wear down the laser/drive by watching movies (IMHO).

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

No. RVL-101 is guaranteed to have a drive that wont read any non-Wii discs without a modchip.
And even if you had a Wii capable of reading burned media and video DVDs, it is not a good idea to wear down the laser/drive by watching movies (IMHO).

Damn... and lemme guess: Wii U consoles can't play DVDs ether, huh?

 

[the_randomizer]

Damn... and lemme guess: Wii U consoles can't play DVDs ether, huh?

They were really never meant to, and running DVDs on Wii drives supposedly wears out the laser faster.

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

They were really never meant to, and running DVDs on Wii drives supposedly wears out the laser faster.

I think that's just a myth.

 

[the_randomizer]

I think that's just a myth.

Maybe, I don't know. Still, in all honesty, there are much better ways to run DVDs, Nintendo didn't want to pay royalties to the DVD forum. This is why Wii U, Wii, etc never played them, that, and by then people had at least one way to play them. IMO.

 

[The3rdknuckles]

WiiMC?

 

[H1B1Esquire]

WiiMC?

I think that DVD+Wiimc combo only works on RVL-001
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2650/~/what-is-the-difference-between-the-models-of-wii-consoles?

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

you mean RVL-001.

 

[H1B1Esquire]

001.

Drunkslexyia gets me....evritimmy

 

[osaka35]

Title.

Does homebrew "dvdX" not work on the RVL-101? It's been a while since I've messed with a Wii

I think that's just a myth.

To play DVDs/bluray/cds, a laser must continuously be moving for an hours or more at a time. To load games, a laser must read only the relevant data into memory, then it stops. Doesn't matter what device you use, it wears out the mechanisms more to play movies than it does to play games. Devices like PS2 and PS3 were designed to be able to withstand the constant movement, as they figured folks would be using them to watch movies, though I hear they aren't necessarily the most robust either. Things like the Wii were designed for occasional cycles of reading, so it doesn't do as well with the constant movement.

Or at least, that's the logic. As far as real-world results, I don't have any data to verify or not. But that's how folks figure it works.

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

huh. dang...

 

[HarveyHouston]

There's a handy guide on Google Sites called the "Complete Softmod Guide"; it has instructions on installing custom IOSes that will allow CDs and DVDs to be read via IOS 250. Since I'm a newbie here, I can't post links yet, but here's an excerpt to give you an idea of what to look for:

The cIOS (custom IOS) is a custom piece of software that is used by some applications that work with unofficial content.
By installing it, you can for example use Backup Loaders and install unofficial channels to your Wii menu.
Every cIOS uses an official IOS by Nintendo as its base.

While a cIOS is installed by most people for Backup Loaders, it is also needed by a handful of other applications to work.
There are many applications however that don't need a cIOS.
Most of the Homebrew Applications on Wiibrew only need the Homebrew Channel.

Required

An SD Card (preferably non-SDHC) or USB device
Homebrew Channel installed (must be up to date!)

Result

2 cIOSs will be installed, which can be used by backup loaders and some other apps as well.

Guide

Offline NUS Downloads

If you have no WiFi access on your Wii, follow these additional steps first. Else skip to the guide below.
The WiiU uses another method to get these WADs, so if you are softmodding a WiiU (vWii), you should skip these steps regardless.

It won't work with WiiMC, but you can use something like WiiXplorer to browse discs.

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

Hmm, well if that can allow it to Read DVDs, then how come it still can't Play DVDs?

 

[KleinesSinchen]

There's a handy guide on Google Sites called the "Complete Softmod Guide"; it has instructions on installing custom IOSes that will allow CDs and DVDs to be read via IOS 250. Since I'm a newbie here, I can't post links yet, but here's an excerpt to give you an idea of what to look for:



It won't work with WiiMC, but you can use something like WiiXplorer to browse discs.

Hmmh.

Due to Nintendo changing the DVD drive on newer systems, those systems are unable to read burned DVDs.

If you have a newer drive (D3-2 or D4) it will not read standard DVDs with software patches only (requires modchip). The newer drives are locked to Nintendo discs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_optical_discs
https://www.wiidrives.com/list

I could never get the my Wii (old drive, DVD-R compatible) to load CDs - neither pressed nor CD-R. Tried it (again) a few days ago. But playing pressed and burned movie DVDs is possible with WiiMC (not very reliable) as well as loading media files from DVD.

I think that's just a myth.

Using the drive/laser wears it out. Does it really wear out faster on burned media? Or when watching movies (what about "Metroid: Other M" then)? No idea. The question is: Why should you put any unnecessary stress on a console laser?

 

[Lumstar]

huh. dang...

The Wii, legally, is not a DVD device. It wasn't approved, endorsed, or licensed to read DVD discs or play DVD movies.
Likewise original Wii games aren't real DVDs.

 

[Ryccardo]

I could never get the my Wii (old drive, DVD-R compatible) to load CDs - neither pressed nor CD-R. Tried it (again) a few days ago.

Yep, it's a pure DVD drive

Why should you put any unnecessary stress on a console laser?

Why put stress on the NAND by booting the console and running software that writes to it, such as Wii Menu?

Answer: because the Wii, the second best selling console in the world, is for whatever market dynamic, on average cheaper to replace than even a PS2

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Does homebrew "dvdX" not work on the RVL-101? It's been a while since I've messed with a Wii

DVDX never really did anything by itself - it was just a partially-dummy title with permissions in the TMD set in a way to give it direct access to the optical drive (and with some code to cooperate with homebrews wanting to replace DVDX's executable, a bit like 3dsx homebrew or Wii game exploits work);

while most people (me included) didn't understand at the time, the reason DVDX was dropped was that fully-enabled AHBPROT allows for that and even more!

It didn't help either that the way to get the trucha bug back in the 3.4/4.0 days involved a homebrew that was intended to install DVDX... (https://gbatemp.net/threads/part-of-the-wii-hacking-history-summer-2008-to-2009.521275/)

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Hmm, well if that can allow it to Read DVDs, then how come it still can't Play DVDs?

Simple - it's one thing to have the technical ability to read arbitrary data DVDs (which either your drive chipset has or doesn't),

another thing to have a CIOS (with the DIP patches) that automatically converts original-game-DVD read commands to generic-disc read commands (which is only useful for Wii game backups, not your intended use),

and still another to have homebrew capable of using said commands AND understanding standard DVD filesystems (AND DVD-Video codecs, containers, and encryption, for movies)

 

[jeffyTheHomebrewer]

Simple - it's one thing to have the technical ability to read arbitrary data DVDs (which either your drive chipset has or doesn't),

another thing to have a CIOS (with the DIP patches) that automatically converts original-game-DVD read commands to generic-disc read commands (which is only useful for Wii game backups, not your intended use),

and still another to have homebrew capable of using said commands AND understanding standard DVD filesystems (AND DVD-Video codecs, containers, and encryption, for movies)

Dang. Which CiOS should I install though? D2X?

 

[blahblah]

The stuff about lasers and whatnot is nonsense, a myth being perpetrated by a user that routinely posts false stuff.

Also nonsense: watching 480p content in 2019. Come on, now.

 

[Ryccardo]

Dang. Which CiOS should I install though? D2X?

Unless you are sure to not have a D3v2 or D4 drive, NO software (or inline modchip, same thing) will ever give you the ability to read any disc that's not a Wii or GC original game

As a general question, yes, use d2x v8 or v10.52 cios (preferably base 57 as default cios = 249, it's the most compatible)

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Also nonsense: watching 480p content in 2019. Come on, now.

Hey, speak for yourself