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Do you believe the image portrays the Piracy viewpoint?

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If you never had the intentions of buying a game, then you pirate it, the devs have NOT lost any money/sales because you weren't going to buy it. Whereas if you have no intentions of buying it, pirate it then decide to buy it, you're still a pirate. If you plan on buying it but pirate it until you can afford it, you're a pirate. The only time your a thief is if you plan on pirating it and not paying ever, even then, you're more so a pirate then a thief.

Oh and the Dev doesn't lose money if you pirate it and can afford it, they just never receive the money they weren't expecting, a bit like someone related to you dies (they were a millionaire) and you never expected the money to go to you and it doesn't, whereas if your not expecting it and you receive it, it's just an added bonus.
 
tagzard said:
This makes me feel like piracy isn't bad. I do buy the games i enjoy.
piracy has never been bad for me lol in fact if it wasn't for piracy 70% of the games I know of right now I would have never even heard of.
 
gifi4 said:
If you never had the intentions of buying a game, then you pirate it, the devs have NOT lost any money/sales because you weren't going to buy it. Whereas if you have no intentions of buying it, pirate it then decide to buy it, you're still a pirate. If you plan on buying it but pirate it until you can afford it, you're a pirate. The only time your a thief is if you plan on pirating it and not paying ever, even then, you're more so a pirate then a thief.

Yes, but even if you didn't have the intention of buying a game and then pirate it, you've done something illegal.
(I'm not contradicting you)
 
The Pi said:
Piracy isn't stealing, stealing is the act of taking something away from someone, if you had no plans to buy it in the first place, they haven't lost money.

Piracy is copying, not stealing.

If you have no plans to buy it, you might have been interested in renting it. So a videostore loses money from your decision (just ask blockbuste- nevermind they went broke).

Maybe you were just gonna wait till it price drops and you can buy it cheap. They don't lose as much money, but they lose it.

Maybe you'd just buy it used at some point, whoever is selling it used misses the opportunity where, if you didn't pirate, you might have bought their copy.


Though from a developers standpoint, yeah. There's not a huge chance they even lost a sale from a pirate. But still it's rather pointless to try and justify piracy. Someone will have lost money, because chances are you, in some form, would have spent money to play a game you were interested in at LEAST 25% of the time. (and that's a pessimistic number).
 
I agree, i'm a pirate. But i'm no thief.
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eh pretty accurate explanation indeed, i'm in the pirate category for having little money to spend on entertainment.. so i only support Atlus lately >.
 
So how would you catagorise someone who never "pirates" a game but never actually "pays" for them either. Maybe someone who just borrows the discs/carts from friends/family when they themselves have finished with them?
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cwstjdenobs said:
Waflix said:
^ I would could that person a borrower.

You know, lending them is just as illegal as uploading them. Serious.

Why? When you upload a game, multiple copies will be spread, more than a thousand people can use the game, and the creators of the game will earn nothing.
When you lend a game, there is only 1 copy, and 1 player can use at a time, and the creators will earn the price of 1 times the game for 1 game.
 
The Pi said:
Piracy isn't stealing, stealing is the act of taking something away from someone, if you had no plans to buy it in the first place, they haven't lost money.

Piracy is copying, not stealing.

Forget the picture, the thing I hate the most is retarded notions like the above sponsored by people that in the end are really just jerks.

If it isn't free, and you obtained it without paying, you are a crook and no one cares what term you insist is correct.
 
if i didn't pirate, i wouldn't have any games, I'm glad I have friends that buy me games.
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I've ended up buying pretty much every game i've ever pirated
Now they are all in my steam library.
 
i only buy used Ps3 games and AMAZING games that have an AMAZING steam sale price

everything else i pirate, including music, programs movies, and what not.
 
But don't forget about the OCD collector too. There are the ones who download every single game weather they use it or not just to say they have it. They will also go as far as downloading every version of the game too such as U.S., EUR, Spain, etc.... Hmmmmm this sounds familiar.
 
No, you'd need to replace pirate with "copyright violator" and thief with "copyright violator and douchebag" for me to agree with the image.
 
Yes absolutely it follows!

pirate (?pa?r?t) n 1. a person who commits piracy 2. a. a vessel used by pirates b. ( as modifier ): a pirate ship 3. a person who illicitly uses or appropriates someone else's literary, artistic, or other work 4. a. a person or group of people who broadcast illegally b. ( as modifier ): a pirate radio station
 
Waflix said:
cwstjdenobs said:
Waflix said:
^ I would could that person a borrower.

You know, lending them is just as illegal as uploading them. Serious.

Why? When you upload a game, multiple copies will be spread, more than a thousand people can use the game, and the creators of the game will earn nothing.
When you lend a game, there is only 1 copy, and 1 player can use at a time, and the creators will earn the price of 1 times the game for 1 game.

Not saying I agree but it just is as far as the law is concerned. So is selling second hand games. Actually that's probably technically worse as you are doing it for money.

Well until you get onto civil cases, but I've always felt that criminal law > civil law...
 

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