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I demand an explanation for the noobs!

There really isn't one to be given. He released the usermode debugger he was working on a while back that he showed off twitter, it requires kernel access (which he has with an exploit that he's kept to himself).

Also, if people were or weren't paying attention, he's retiring for some time: https://twitter.com/qlutoo/status/936699719715258368

So he may release his exploit with 34c3, or he's just released this for when someone else finds an exploit, they'll have tools to work off of in the future and his work isn't lost.

That's about it, really.
 
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All these kids will be back on twitter within a week if not given enough attention. None of them are "taking a break" from anything. They need their attention. Give it some time and they'll pop back with a code update for whatever.

What is the purpose of this mindset?

And people wonder why the Switch scene is bleeding talent, this scene is going to literally kill itself. Nintendo won't even need to patch, just let toxicity be their roll-back protection.
 

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There really isn't one to be given. He released the usermode debugger he was working on a while back that he showed off twitter, it requires kernel access (which he has with an exploit that he's kept to himself).

Also, if people were or weren't paying attention, he's retiring for some time: https://twitter.com/qlutoo/status/936699719715258368

So he may release his exploit with 34c3, or he's just released this for when someone else finds an exploit, they'll have tools to work off of in the future and his work isn't lost.

That's about it, really.
I assumed that one was mostly a joke:


After 34c3 I'll take a break from console hacking. Permanently. For a few years. For a few months. For a while. Maybe.
That last part seems joke-y enough :lol:
 

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All these kids will be back on twitter within a week if not given enough attention. None of them are "taking a break" from anything. They need their attention. Give it some time and they'll pop back with a code update for whatever.
the moment they release an exploit i bet youll be happy tho
go back in your hole
 

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I assumed that one was mostly a joke:
https://twitter.com/qlutoo/status/936699719715258368

That last part seems joke-y enough :lol:

No, it just seems he doesn't know for how long he'll retire or if he won't permanently move on to other things, he's very interested and involved with mathematics and he may have found a new thing to do their rather than dump oodles of time into hacking. @Daeken is still involved but he's also retired because life moved on and he's got other things to do now.

the moment they release an exploit i bet youll be happy tho
go back in your hole

In this day and age, kernel exploits can be fairly limited in their forward-rolling potential (or at least, they'll function like a more capable Rohan variant). You need someone to keep up on the game to keep up with the kernel evolution and ever-closing holes.

Even the bootrom for the Switch is kind of stuck in this hole, since it too can be patched.

As talent retires, this gets slower and slower. Chasing away talent with vile is just not a good way to preserve a scene. Vets leave, newbies don't feel welcome, and ultimately attrition kills the scene.
 
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There really isn't one to be given. He released the usermode debugger he was working on a while back that he showed off twitter, it requires kernel access (which he has with an exploit that he's kept to himself).

Also, if people were or weren't paying attention, he's retiring for some time: https://twitter.com/qlutoo/status/936699719715258368

So he may release his exploit with 34c3, or he's just released this for when someone else finds an exploit, they'll have tools to work off of in the future and his work isn't lost.

That's about it, really.

Have you read the comments in that Twitter post though? I could very well be wrong because I'm not very familiar with the guy, but it seems to be more of a joke about how he keeps saying he's gonna step away but never actually does.

EDIT: shoulda read the rest of the thread, feel free to ignore this.
 
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@Daeken is still involved but he's also retired because life moved on and he's got other things to do now.
Actually that's just how daeken seems to do projects typically. He has a goal and once he hits that goal its just on to the next thing. His goal was arbitrary userland code execution. Once that was accomplished he moved on to something else. It was more for the accomplishment of doing it rather than actually creating the homebrew scene. Not to say his work isn't greatly benefiting the homebrew scene, just that he won't stay in the scene to continue it for the long-haul. Luckily we have other devs working on things like getting graphics in homebrew.
 

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Great news looking forward a KernelHax next to be published soon if we are lucky
Kernel hax won't get you much. Everyone seems to expect kernel to be the magic key for 3.0.0. The real fun would require trustzone. So for those with the hope of playing 3.0.1+ games with cfw or spoofing it won't happen with kernelhax AFAIK.
 
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All these kids will be back on twitter within a week if not given enough attention. None of them are "taking a break" from anything. They need their attention. Give it some time and they'll pop back with a code update for whatever.

And the last thing you did for the community was?????

I haven't done anything either, but then I don't make ridiculous posts like this.
 

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