ROM Hack Official Mother 3 Translation Thread

[gizmo_gal]

I cant wait for this project to be completed

I think that the translation will be good, personally, but either way, I cant speak japanese anyway so I'll be happy for any thing

 

[sblur]

The Mother 3 translation is a joke to real ROM hackers and translators.

Why haven't they released a partial translation patch like a traditional ROM translation project?

Anyone remember the original pokemon gold/silver translations? How every few days you could reload your save from the previous version, play that? Maybe I'm just too jaded.

Yes, maybe you are.

I don't know who you consider "real" ROM hackers and translators, but there's clearly been a precedence set of exactly the opposite of what you're considering traditional. Just take a look at the majority of the translations posted to http://www.romhacking.net/
Almost all of the most well known translations were NOT released until they were in a seemingly finished state. Some popular examples I can think of off the top of my head:
- Radical Dreamers
- Tales of Phantasia (Definitely the PSX translation, which has only had a single 1.0 release so far. I think DeJap didn't release a beta of their SNES translation until the actual text translation was complete.)
- Star Ocean SNES
- Der Langrisser SNES
- Most of the 60+ translations by the Aeon Genesis group.

It seems to me that a large majority of projects that receive partial releases never get finished. Just consider any of those Pokemon translations you mentioned above. I don't recall a single one actually being completed, they all got dropped months before the games were officially released in English.

In the case of the Menu & Items patch, Mato did it simply because he actually cared. He wanted a November release date, and when it couldn't be met, he gave something in return to make up for it. With regards to the actual complete text translation, a beta isn't really feasible. There isn't enough room to throw the english script into an unhacked rom, and the game is in no state to be played from start to finish without crashing or severe display anomalies on a partially hacked one. Considering that the only thing left script-wise seems to be revision, a beta probably wouldn't be worth it. I don't think 'beta' will last very long when it's finally reached.

Just my 2 cents, although I personally think some people here are being too optimistic in estimating how soon this will be done. There's definitely at least 4 more months of work for them to do.

Edit: P.S. - No hostility intended, unlike some of the other responses....

 

[r0ni]

The Mother 3 translation is a joke to real ROM hackers and translators.

The people involved in this translation have been hacking roms since you were in diapers, and are responsible for some of the biggest translations ever. If they are a joke, what does that make you?

Posts like that are just wrong.

Please grow up sir.

 

[Demi]

They did release a menu only patch, it's really quick and dirty though

 

[SoulAnger]

Luka luka lucas!

I've been eyeing this project since i first saw it.

 

[INTERNETS]

They are still at the drama and cocktease stages. Enjoy the fine screenshots and item/menu patch.

What drama? Do you even know who Tomato is? Honestly.

 

[Lumstar]

Exactly. Look at Mega Man 6.

To date... The game has never been officially released in Europe, Australia, or any other PAL region, in any form, for any platform, ever. Just like Chrono Trigger!

Think about how lazy Capcom is if they can't bother finding space to stick a 512KB already in English entry of a major series on one of their many compilations after over 14 years.

Nintendo is better. But still flubs sometimes. Like Kirby & the Amazing Mirror had "Mr. Flosty" as a translation error. Or the original Engrish intro to Zelda 1.

 

[Heran Bago]

The Mother 3 translation is a joke to real ROM hackers and translators.

Why haven't they released a partial translation patch like a traditional ROM translation project?

Anyone remember the original pokemon gold/silver translations? How every few days you could reload your save from the previous version, play that? Maybe I'm just too jaded.

Yes, maybe you are.

I don't know who you consider "real" ROM hackers and translators, but there's clearly been a precedence set of exactly the opposite of what you're considering traditional. Just take a look at the majority of the translations posted to http://www.romhacking.net/
Almost all of the most well known translations were NOT released until they were in a seemingly finished state. Some popular examples I can think of off the top of my head:
- Radical Dreamers
- Tales of Phantasia (Definitely the PSX translation, which has only had a single 1.0 release so far. I think DeJap didn't release a beta of their SNES translation until the actual text translation was complete.)
- Star Ocean SNES
- Der Langrisser SNES
- Most of the 60+ translations by the Aeon Genesis group.

It seems to me that a large majority of projects that receive partial releases never get finished. Just consider any of those Pokemon translations you mentioned above. I don't recall a single one actually being completed, they all got dropped months before the games were officially released in English.

In the case of the Menu & Items patch, Mato did it simply because he actually cared. He wanted a November release date, and when it couldn't be met, he gave something in return to make up for it. With regards to the actual complete text translation, a beta isn't really feasible. There isn't enough room to throw the english script into an unhacked rom, and the game is in no state to be played from start to finish without crashing or severe display anomalies on a partially hacked one. Considering that the only thing left script-wise seems to be revision, a beta probably wouldn't be worth it. I don't think 'beta' will last very long when it's finally reached.

Just my 2 cents, although I personally think some people here are being too optimistic in estimating how soon this will be done. There's definitely at least 4 more months of work for them to do.

Edit: P.S. - No hostility intended, unlike some of the other responses....

You give really good examples of translations that don't involve huge blogs and hype the shit out of themselves with disproportionaly low release. However, you are right about my use of Pokemon gold/silver as a traditional ROM translations. The pokemon gold/silver translations were 100% completed before the English release of the game. Of course it was a literal translation, with stuff like nuts instead of berries. Most traditional ROM translations are just a release.

r0ni, If you have a counter point you are free to make it. I say you are wrong and as evidence I'd show the terrible low-content post you just made. I've backed up my point a lot more than you have for yours.

INTERNETS, you above everyone should be privy to the going-ons around the INTERNETS.



Also you guys are picking apart a comment I made quite a while ago. Way to beat a dead horse, and yes I am just as guilty.


Even though I have expressed my oppinions on the project, hey! It's their project. They could replace all the characters with wangs and I would still play it when they release. I actually DO want to play Mother 3, ya know.

 

[Upperleft]

omg .. *cries* this looks awesome T^T
can't wait till the translation is done

 

[INTERNETS]

The blog isn't necessarily a hype machine – although it is an unintended side effect of the process. I've known Tomato, the head translator and head hacker of the project, for about eight years now. The reason he refuses to release an partial hack is so Internet ROM hacking scenester wannabes can

i mean

He's going for as close to a professional-level translation as possible, not releasing partial Pokemon Gold bullcrap patches whipped up in Hex Workshop in a 13-year-old's room while he fiddles his diddle to hentai JPGs he found by searching "cartoon girl sex" on Hotbot.

 

[Akotan]

Please, Heran, just shut up. Sorry to be rude but Mother series has an -huge-, active and strong fanbase.
Starmen.net is online shouting, protesting, informing, demanding, doing anything to promote Mother fanbase and begging Nintendo of America to reconsider their actual position concerning the series for years now.

This translation have -many- people of Starmen.net crew working on it. The project's blog is only a way to show the strong fanbase part by part of the translation process. Not so many translation groups actually do this, reporting with so many details the so-fully-awaited english patch.

I'm sorry that you think this aren't going anywhere and apparently expect this project to fail. If you don't want to add something truly useful to this topic, please don't post here.

 

[Jack-Of-Trades]

Noticed revision of the admins post

i just hope they do get around to finishing it (I'm majorly hoping they do since some of my favorite game's are (j) only)

Like Bit generation's (does this count since 99% of it is in English?)
Crayon Shin-Chan (Insert long ass name for something movies)
Star Ocean
DQM:Heart of caravan

 

[yuka001]

Noticed revision of the admins post

i just hope they do get around to finishing it (I'm majorly hoping they do since some of my favorite game's are (j) only)

Like Bit generation's (does this count since 99% of it is in English?)
Crayon Shin-Chan (Insert long ass name for something movies)
Star Ocean
DQM:Heart of caravan

But you do know that the translation patch for "DQM: Caravan Heart" is available now, don't you?

 

[T-hug]

Noticed revision of the admins post

i just hope they do get around to finishing it (I'm majorly hoping they do since some of my favorite game's are (j) only)

Like Bit generation's (does this count since 99% of it is in English?)
Crayon Shin-Chan (Insert long ass name for something movies)
Star Ocean
DQM:Heart of caravan

But you do know that the translation patch for "DQM: Caravan Heart" is available now, don't you?

The patch is excellent too, no Engrish at all, very well done and 2 years was easily worth the wait!
Read the patch creators blog, it's very interesting as this was his first ever translation and his blog tells of how it came to be, a great read for anyone interested in ROM translation.

 

[Jack-Of-Trades]

But you do know that the translation patch for "DQM: Caravan Heart" is available now, don't you?

Yeah but I was just referring to my fav (J) games
Thank's though
There is also one for Star Ocean

 

[acoustic.digital]

Noticed revision of the admins post

i just hope they do get around to finishing it (I'm majorly hoping they do since some of my favorite game's are (j) only)

Like Bit generation's (does this count since 99% of it is in English?)
Crayon Shin-Chan (Insert long ass name for something movies)
Star Ocean
DQM:Heart of caravan

is there really a patch for shin chan?
that'd be so awesome hehe. i can't find any patches for the game though :/
any ideas who translated it?

 

[Heran Bago]

Please, Heran, just shut up. Sorry to be rude but Mother series has an -huge-, active and strong fanbase.
Starmen.net is online shouting, protesting, informing, demanding, doing anything to promote Mother fanbase and begging Nintendo of America to reconsider their actual position concerning the series for years now.

This translation have -many- people of Starmen.net crew working on it. The project's blog is only a way to show the strong fanbase part by part of the translation process. Not so many translation groups actually do this, reporting with so many details the so-fully-awaited english patch.

I'm sorry that you think this aren't going anywhere and apparently expect this project to fail. If you don't want to add something truly useful to this topic, please don't post here.

The starmen.net crew? The same people who were handing out bans at any mention of the "rom" or a translation thereof when the game game out?

Yeah there is a strong fanbase. That's not totally relevant to the hack on the huge fanbase isn't working on it, just a handful of dedicated professionals.
You're right. Not many groups do the blog thing. That was what I was saying way back months ago on the last page.


I never said that I thought the project was going no where nor did I say it was going to fail. You sir, are putting words into my mouth. I infact said that I think it will be eventually finished and I will gladly play it. Just because I don't agree with how they are going about things doesn't mean I can't admire their work. Tomato knows what he's doing and has indeed has a good track record. You are making up what you think I said, dude. You are a liar and a bad internet poster. I encourage you to go back and read the posts you are referring to.

 

[falco123]

*Waits for Mother 3*

*Ages 500 years*

LMAO TRUTH ITT

 

[Beware]

It may take forever, but you can tell it'll be unbelievable with people like Tomato and Neo (of Neo Demiforce fame).

 

[Endogene]

At least some hope of actually being able to appreciate that game the way it deserves to be appreciated