Nintendo To Help Bring more Japanese 3DS Games To The West

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Are you saying it to your friends and family too?

I mean, seriously, the devs are putting effort and money in translating the game in english, or, if you're lucky enough, in your mother language, and yet you complain, but, for some reason, you bear just fine with your friend, family, and everyone around you. Now, while I like anime too, I would never say no to an english dub. And I don't understand why you guys hate it (not just you, NahuelDS), it's not like everyone around you speaks japanese and the subtitle appears over their heads, nor everyone around you is a world famous voice actor or Morgan Freeman, so, what's the big deal? Dubbing project or what you hear in your every day life, it's all the same language, the one you were born knowing (or willingly learned, like me). Dubbing isn't alien language. It's your language, spoken by people with a better voice than yours, and nothing more. So, why the hate?
I don't like to play Japanese games dubbed in english
the same way I don't like to watch Hollywood movies dubbed in spanish

It's sooooo simple, you like it... fine
I don't like it.... deal with it
 
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I don't like to watch Hollywood movies dubbed in spanish
I don't like to play Japanese games dubbed in english

If you know japanese, I have nothing against you. But that doesn't mean everyone knows japanese. And for those people, dubs are necessary. Why give them a text game when the original game had voice acting? We're not in an age where a voice dub can be skipped because there is not enough space on the disk to do it, we're in a age where about everything has to be voiced to be enjoyable. I think even you, if you had a choice, would choose a voiced game instead of a text one. So, why say no to voice acting when it was originally there. I understand it's sometimes awful, but that's not reason enough for just a country to have voice acting, while the rest of the world has a text version.

(And no, I wouldn't watch a hollywood movie dubbed either, but that's just because the lips wouldn't be synching with the audio, and that can ruin the experience)
 
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If you know japanese, I have nothing against you. But that doesn't mean everyone knows japanese. And for those people, dubs are necessary. Why give them a text game when the original game had voice acting? We're not in an age where a voice dub can be skipped because there is not enough space on the disk to do it, we're in a age where about everything has to be voiced to be enjoyable. I think even you, if you had a choice, would choose a voiced game instead of a text one. So, why say no to voice acting when it was originally there. I understand it's sometimes awful, but that's not reason enough for just a country to have voice acting, while the rest of the world has a text version.

(And no, I wouldn't watch a hollywood movie dubbed either, but that's just because the lips wouldn't be synching with the audio, and that can ruin the experience)

Why not both?

There are people who preffer games on it's original language, just like movies.
Having the option of chosing the audio and subtitles if necessary are perfect for everybody.

With many games coming from japan, and many having anime style cutscenes I understand pretty well why some people preffer the jappanese audio.
 

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This isn't meeting them halfway. This is (more or less) the same thing.
They're still bringing Japanese games to the West like always, at the same pace, but maybe a few more.
You want the moon on a stick don't you?

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This is typical of kids nowadays.
Nintendo: We're working harder to bring Japanese games out in the West.
Kids: Original voices or GTFO. Also no time delay because I know fuck all about development, costs and marketing!
Nintendo: Ok...we'll put those on as well...dunno about time delay.
Kids: Not good enough, I want them before they are developed!

Nintendo: Here is a new IP
Kids: WTF???? I WANT NEW PIKMIN!!!!1!1!!!
Nintendo:K...here is Pikmin 3!
Kids: WTF??? SAME OLD SHIT AS USUAL!!!11!!
 

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Nintendo: Here is a new IP
Kid 1: WTF???? I WANT NEW PIKMIN!!!!1!1!!!
Nintendo:K...here is Pikmin 3!
Kid 2: WTF??? SAME OLD SHIT AS USUAL!!!11!!
Corrected. It's more a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't"/"can't please them all".

The other one is spot on, though.
 

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Nintendo: Let's bring Japanese games to the West!
Me: ALLOW MOTHER**CKING REGION FREE.
Nintendo: :trollface:

I don't want Nintendo to bring Japanese games to the West with dubs.
I don't like it when they dub games.
And I want to play games on their Japanese release date. NOT A YEAR LATER.


I much prefer dubs to subs. So to me this news is very welcomed.
 

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The reason I tend to prefer subs to dubs with things like anime, where you can't have subs with dubbed material, is that I have a hard time understanding some accents (I'm looking at you Irish? dude in Yuyu Hakusho D: Gave up trying to understand what he said after a little while q-q ). And if I'm already reading the subs, doesn't really matter what language the people actually talk in, so I tend to pick either Japanese or English in games when possible based on which actors' have voices I prefer.
 

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The thing is real people have real emotions, actors have fake emotions. Just spouting emotionless lines can be called a dub, yes, but I doubt anyone would want it. The voices have to fit the character, and obviously they do in real life. There's a difference between the two. (not saying I hate dubs myself, mind you)

So what makes a Japanese actor better than an English one? Even with "fake emotions", quality acting is quality acting. It's what makes you go see a movie and get immersed. It's what makes people cry when they see Les Miserables.

I just don't get what this has to do with the subs vs. dubs argument as both feature voice acting, the difference is that by and large one language you'll understand (when we're talking about this site at least).
 

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Some dubs are good. Some are bad.
Try the one in english first, if its unbearable or misses out content, view in japanese with subs.
Anime logic, works with games too, but Dubs are prefered a bit more with games.
It takes hoooooorbile acting to revert me to subbed in games


This Dubs vs. Subs debate is becoming rote.

Just fucking drop it already.
God can we please listen to Hyro?
He has a point.
 

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So what makes a Japanese actor better than an English one? Even with "fake emotions", quality acting is quality acting. It's what makes you go see a movie and get immersed. It's what makes people cry when they see Les Miserables.

I just don't get what this has to do with the subs vs. dubs argument as both feature voice acting, the difference is that by and large one language you'll understand (when we're talking about this site at least).
I'm not saying that makes Japanese actors better, I'm saying that's a difference between voice acting and people talking to each other normally. It applies to Japanese dubs as well.
 

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I don't like to play Japanese games dubbed in english
the same way I don't like to watch Hollywood movies dubbed in spanish

It's sooooo simple, you like it... fine
I don't like it.... deal with it

Kind of like how bad The Simpsons is in Spanish or how horrible it was that one time they dubbed it in Swedish, my brother doesn't understand English yet, but he still prefers watch it with subtitles when given the option between watching it subbed or dubbed in Spanish/Swedish.
I for one can't stand watching cartoons like Regular Show in Swedish for example, OK dubs and all... it's just :S

A game like Resident Evil I rather play in English because it fits the western atmosphere, however in a game like Ex Troopers which feels very Japanese it also makes more sense to me to have the Japanese voices. Now, in Street Fighter IV they give you the option to set character specific voices which means that I can have every Japanese fighter speak his native tongue.
It's a matter of what feels natural and sounds better, I for example loved how every character in Punch-Out! on the Wii spoke in their native languages as well.

There are exceptions to this like with Kid Icarus where subs just becomes impossible to read due to the dialog taking place at the same time as the action, luckily the VA's and localization team all did a great job with it and made it feel really natural despite being a Japanese looking game.

It's a from case to case situation, I just pick whatever language fits better, having the option to switch is always a welcome addition.
 

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This Dubs vs. Subs debate is becoming rote.

Just fucking drop it already.

Subtitles are nice when the noise coming out of the speakers is incomprehensible, from background noise, volume, or some issues.

However, dubs, on one hand, do help as well, feels more natural with English subtitles.

Personally, I just take whatever's available to me. Most of the time, I take both.

If the voice is in Japanese, it just adds to the atmosphere of the game. If it's in English, it adds to your understanding.
 

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For dubbing a live action movie, it's voice actors vs. original actors
For dubbing a video game it's really Japanese voice actors vs. English voice actors (or whatever language)
The only real difference is the lips might be out of sync (assuming they took the time to sync them in the original language.)

As far as localization times, subtitles are usually faster to do than dubs. Would you prefer them?
 

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