New DS confirmed

[JDMEVOIXMR]

Just got home from work......read most of this thread before I went, read the rest just now.


This DSi does seem like a device aimed solely at the casual gamer, extreme Nintendo fans and senior citizens who have trouble seeing the current DS screens. The cameras are indeed only .3MP NOT 3MP. 640X480 resolution only equals 307200 pixels. For all intents and purposes that is .3MP. That resolution is crap for any REAL camera. It might look decent squished down into the DS's 256x192 res screens, but not on anything else. 1MP is one-million pixels. That's considerably more than 640x480, let alone the rumors of 3MP on the DSi. (1280x1024 is only 1.3MP) The camera sounds like just a come-a-long for noobs who hear "camera" and think they MUST have it without realizing how crappy the reolution actually is. Maybe they'll use it for adding your pic to DS-ware games or so you can take quick pics for use with its new built-in browser (here's a p1c of my pen0s har-har-har). Who knows, but I don't really see it as any kind of "special" feature.

Speaking of the built-in browser.....

I think the browser will be an improved version of the two-cart DS version of Opera. It would HAVE to be somewhat improved just to allow downloads of the DS-ware stuff. Whether it will provide any other new functionality is yet to be seen, but you can only hope Java might work....as well as maybe SOME Flash, but I doubt it, the DS just doesn't really have the power for it. I'd almost be willing to bet that GBA games will available to be purchased from their DS-ware deal to be played on the DSi, since it lacks a physical GBA port, but has extra onboard storage memory. The DSi WILL still have an ARM7 CPU simply because DS games require the ARM7 as well as the ARM9 to work. The SD card will store the "ROM" you download, as well as your AAC music and it will run through the extra memory in the DSi......as well being the RAM for the browser. I don't think they will completely eliminate GBA in the DSi, they'll just make you have to PAY for it. Remember, Ninty makes squat off the sales of used GBA games. So they found a way to make money off of them again.

If there will be firmware updates on the DSi, you can bet your ass that flashcarts won't work with it unless hackers come up with a way to make flashcarts absolutely, positively, 100% look like an official cart, or Ninty was dumb enough to leave the same (or similar) exploit in it that the DS and DSL has that allows flashcarts to work. They'll probably even rip off the hackers who created various emu's on the GBA and DS to provide downloadable "retro" games. It wouldn't surprise me.

The ONLY plus's I see with the DSi are the larger screens and the better sound. I don't think 1/2 inch larger screens will affect the quality of the graphics as bad as many think it will, and better sound is always....well....better. But everything else about it is just....useless to me.

That said, unless they come up with some AMAZING DS-ware download content for the DSi, I see no reason to get one. My DSlite is my "pocket arcade", I'm not giving up the nearly 600 games (GBA and various emu's) in my slot2, let alone the possibility of my "100-games-in-one" slot1 cart not working, for slightly bigger screens, downloadable casual noobware, low res picture capabilities or marginally improved sound. For a pirate like me, the DSi just isn't as practical as my current DSlite. Besides, I have my DSlite all accessorized the way I like it and many of those accessories wouldn't work with the DSi.
I'm not willing to start all over again like that.....especially not with the lack of good games on the system. Maybe you guys are impressed with a lot of the recent DS games, but I sure ain't. Even many of the games y'all consider AAA are crap to me. I'm sure if I listed many of the games I DO like on the DS, you guys would think THEY are crap, but that's how it goes for a 40 year old gamer who has ALWAYS had different tastes in games than everyone else.

To be honest, I hope the DSi is as big a failure as the GBAmicro. It would serve Nintendo right to see that gamers (true gamers anyway) are not willing to be fleeced.....again.

Best post I've seen all day. +1. Is the camera for sure NOT 3MP? What I understood was the outside camera is 3MP while the inside is 0.3MP.

I don't think I'll be getting one until it comes out and it far superseeds the DS lite.

 

[jampot5000]

@ rayder
maybe the real gamers won't get fleeced but there are enough extremest nintendo fanboys and girls that would still buy it hell im tempted to buy one to mess around with it, the point is nintendo know it will probably sell because there target audience are the fanboys/girls and kids who will beg there parents until they get it

personally im neither, and i need this new ds asmuch as i need a life threatening disease, however if when the time comes i have enough money i will buy one just to test it and then sell cos i sure as hell will not be getting rid of my ds with real GBA support.

 

[Ferrariman]

Sorry to ask, I don't feel like reading though 43 pages, but wouldn't it be possible to "dump" DSware titles, and play them on ohter DSes somehow, as the hardware specs are unchanged?

 

[Toni Plutonij]

To be honest, I hope the DSi is as big a failure as the GBAmicro. It would serve Nintendo right to see that gamers (true gamers anyway) are not willing to be fleeced.....again.

Great post Rayder, everything you wrote has perfect sense..but I would only disagree on Micro..
I know that Micro is considered a big failure, but I must say that I enjoy that handheld so much..

I said already that my perfect NDS redesign would be much smaller screens, but with the same resolution (like Micro did over GBA), and overall, much smaller handheld....No GBA slot, and changed looks..

 

[bobrules]

hopefully the firmware can be dumped, then we can just run the firmware with ds lites lol.

 

[Ferrariman]

Also, why does this new DS look like nintendo do nothing to make it look good ? It look like they toke a DS lite, added a whole bunch of shit, and didn't do anything to make it look "cleaner". This thing screams "prototype"

 

[jampot5000]

well if it is prototype they don't have a whole lot of time to be finishing it so, im guessing all the money went into adding things and not tidying it up.

lets just hope someone gets fired over it =] although personally i dont mind the DS Lite look too much it is a hell of alot cleaner than the original DS

 

[xkenshinx]

Hmmmm.
I wouldn't buy one if my flashcart won't work on it.
I'd rather buy a cellphone.

Hmmmm.
Could the circle between the two screens be the second camera for taking pictures of ones self?
Maybe theyre implementing some new gameplays for the DS....

 

[Toni Plutonij]

Hmmmm.
I wouldn't buy one if my flashcart won't work on it.
I'd rather buy a cellphone.

Hmmmm.
Could the circle between the two screens be the second camera for taking pictures of ones self?
Maybe theyre implementing some new gameplays for the DS....

Yes it is the camera...And there is no new gameplay, as Nintendo stated that all games released will be playable on Phat NDS, NDS Lite and DSi!!

 

[tatumanu]

I hear you ferraiman, kinda agree it does look a bit rushed...
I'm not very excited about it, sure playing around with cams and distoring faces using a touch pad can be fun ... but for how long? and ... can't most ppl ( that can afford this technology) already have played with their pc's webcam and some software if they really want to? How can playing music on a ds can compare with cheaper and most probably better sounding mp3 players? How is adding a lil bit tad of screen going to enhance my experience as a gamer?
But what really pisses me off is that nintendo is sure to release one of theyr amazing games as a way to make us having to get a new ds and alienating others that wont be able to play it to the fullest on their ds phat or lite. Oh and yeah as we saw before old school gamers will be lured to the VC to play their favorite Snes, Nes games and a few new ones like megaman 9 ... I really wish somebody will find a way to hack a ds lite or phat in order to play VC games ... Nintendo sure is using the little they have of good (which is the core games) to suck your wallet dry.

 

[DarkSpace]

As long as it's playable on the DS lite I'll be fine. The MP3 capabilities can be done with the music and games by codejunkies.

 

[GiRPwN]

My question is... What the heck is the button to the left of the screen for? Anyone wanna zoom into it?

 

[Orc]

My question is... What the heck is the button to the left of the screen for? Anyone wanna zoom into it?

Power

 

[ackers]

If the DSi (lame name btw) has mp3 playback I sure hope you can play mp3's and play games at the same time. Although I doubt it since nintendo are stingy bastards....

 

[Searinox]

Personally I hope I see AVGN take a dump on it in a future vid.

 

[Zesto]

DSPiRATE

Bring it on.

 

[TwinBlades]

The thing looks so boxie and seems like they rushed it (ferrari is right) I mean all they add was the camara. What a pain and looks really ugly even uglyier than the original ds.

 

[fgghjjkll]

Wait!!!!.....will the web browser have flash support like the psp's web browser?

 

[Balrogs.Pain]

Hmmmm.
I wouldn't buy one if my flashcart won't work on it.
I'd rather buy a cellphone.

Hmmmm.
Could the circle between the two screens be the second camera for taking pictures of ones self?
Maybe theyre implementing some new gameplays for the DS....

Yes it is the camera...And there is no new gameplay, as Nintendo stated that all games released will be playable on Phat NDS, NDS Lite and DSi!!

WAIT A MINUTE!!
Theres no GBA Slot? Then how would guitar hero on tour work on the new DS? I thought all games would be playable, so now what you need to buy ANOTHER thing so you can make it work? or what?

 

[bobrules]

They'll probably make a wireless controller.