New DS confirmed

[Banger]

Oh come on people it is NDSiPod.

 

[LTK]

They should have put internet phone capabilities in it. ):
Then it would be a true Iphone rival.

 

[Master Mo]

I wonder why they dumped the nds logo?

I always thought that it looks really cool...

But nice, that they got rid of the glossy. Now one might consider buying a black one

 

[updowners]

*snip*

(no need to thank me

)

for what? posting stuff that everybody here already knows?

I mean, its not that bad, its a nice list, and he did a lot of work for those lazy people, but Vishi whatever just kind of posted a well known fact, not the specifics >.>

I should help all the idiots out there who still think it has two touchscreens

 

[VISHI SO FISHI]

Ok i can now cofirm the old flash carts wont work on the DSI!!!!


































JUST KIDDING(I HAVE NO IDEA!~)

 

[jampot5000]

dunno if anyone has already posted this but if it has the ds browser built in, it must have some sort of extra ram in it equivolent of the GBA Ram expansion, does this mean we will be able to boot gba games from a slot 1 device, or will it not work because of the removal of the gba hardware all together? what do you all think

 

[updowners]

JUST KIDDING(I HAVE NO IDEA!~)

O RLY I DIDN'T NOTICE

 

[Tac 21]

this is harilous, obviously a response to the flash card industry/ Faster times of faster technology.

but what really bothers me, is this.


Also, to make the handheld console thin, Nintendo took away the slot for Game Boy Advance games. No longer can GBA games be played on DS and DS games that use the GBA slot can't be used on DSi but a new range of DSi-only games are likely to appear so this could make up for the difference.

source: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti...tendos_dsi.html


I call BS.

Waste of time an money if you already have the original OR the lite.

This thing is the micro reject of the series. (not that I'm saying the micro was bad! just unnecessary but nice novelty.)

 

[Jordan10la]

Holy shit I am just seeing this topic now. So many replies. D: God damn, I'll never read them all. So I guess I'm starting from here. Also what was this released at was there a live feed? If so how did I not hear of it?

 

[Banger]

dunno if anyone has already posted this but if it has the ds browser built in, it must have some sort of extra ram in it equivolent of the GBA Ram expansion, does this mean we will be able to boot gba games from a slot 1 device, or will it not work because of the removal of the gba hardware all together? what do you all think

Yea I did some 12 odd hours ago. But yea I think GBA games will be able to be launched. Not sure if via Slot1 and if not through slot one then SD card.

Though some disagree with me. As I said before only time will tell.

 

[ciper]

You should look at this.

Perfect! Wish I had seen it sooner because that wasn't easy for me.

 

[Issac]

I am really pissed...
why?

They finally release the metallic rose DSL in the US, NOT BUNDLED with that crappy nintendogs game... so I give in an buy a new DSL, to upgrade from my release day phatty, since it just was released and all... like two months later they fuck us (new DSL buyers) with a new console ¬_¬

I'd understand it if it wasn't an all hyped up release for the new colors and shit, but first hype new colors to attract the last few ppl who don't have an DSL, and now: piss in their faces, release a new one... i am angry!

And i don't see the use in that 0.25 inch larger screen? add a black border around the screens? what for? are new games going to fill it all up, so the "old" systems can't play it?

me = angry.

 

[Arno]

This thing is the micro reject of the series. (not that I'm saying the micro was bad! just unnecessary but nice novelty.)

That works out well. I'll use my Micro and I'll get a DSi.

 

[Pyrofyr]

Agreed. This won't be worth it at all.

First of all, considering that they're first talk about the original 'new ds rumors' was that the next 'handheld' would be to accommodate the MMO side of games, so as such this will not do that, since it doesn't have internet phone capabilities, only WiFi.

As for you people even considering the iPhone a handheld gaming platform, please gtfo of a TRUE gaming platform. The iPhone is a piece of shit phone with shitty games stuffed onto it with nothing more than money hungry californian homosexual programming skaters programs's so that they can make a quick buck. Apple is so commercial it's not even funny, they make the majority of you idiots with an IQ under 50 buy their shit because it looks 'hip' and has 'street cred', and when you do, you realize a few years later that they don't service any warranty you have, and won't even sell you spare parts to fix it yourself if out of warranty, furthermore EVERY SINGLE FEATURE YOU WANT you need to pay for, generally in excess.

In any case, the DSi is definitely better than the iPhone, but will it be better than the DSLite? I highly doubt this. The increases that they've made are not good enough to be worth it, they keep going the uber-commercial side of things like Apple and making things smaller and smaller instead of just keeping the same size and beefing it up a lot more. To be honest they should take a note from Sony and not shrink so much, but try and double or at least x1.5 the strength of the machine.

I'm also hoping that these new 'DSi' games will work in the DSLite/DS, cause if they don't, it will be like they're just pissing on us, and at that point, I'll be saying fuck nintendo.

One thing that I find ridiculous to the highest extent is their SD slot... it seems that this will make it a lot easier for people to dump games once they find out how, among other things... this allows for much foreign code to be used easier. Can't wait to find out if it'll work or not. I'm probably going to ask my cousin to get me one if flashcarts work on them, or if we find it soon enough after released in Japan.

--
@Above - For the size you save on the other, you'd have to carry your Micro as well, and guess what? IT ends up being more space used overall.

 

[SomeGuyGG]

I am really pissed...
why?

They finally release the metallic rose DSL in the US, NOT BUNDLED with that crappy nintendogs game... so I give in an buy a new DSL, to upgrade from my release day phatty, since it just was released and all... like two months later they fuck us (new DSL buyers) with a new console ¬_¬

I'd understand it if it wasn't an all hyped up release for the new colors and shit, but first hype new colors to attract the last few ppl who don't have an DSL, and now: piss in their faces, release a new one... i am angry!

And i don't see the use in that 0.25 inch larger screen? add a black border around the screens? what for? are new games going to fill it all up, so the "old" systems can't play it?

me = angry.

The resolution did not change, just the screen is larger. A larger screen will look nicer.

With a built in SD Slot, maybe a soft mod will come out.

 

[jampot5000]

dunno if anyone has already posted this but if it has the ds browser built in, it must have some sort of extra ram in it equivolent of the GBA Ram expansion, does this mean we will be able to boot gba games from a slot 1 device, or will it not work because of the removal of the gba hardware all together? what do you all think

Yea I did some 12 odd hours ago. But yea I think GBA games will be able to be launched. Not sure if via Slot1 and if not through slot one then SD card.

Though some disagree with me. As I said before only time will tell.

nice someone agrees i hope it does allow for this even though nintendo would never condone it unless it was through the DSi Ware however if they make it so ya have to download gba games to play, i will be doing it through a flash kart because there is no way i would pay for a gba game though DSiware when ive bought them orginially like pokemon or boktai 1 and 2

 

[Banger]

Oh god please help me I just bought a NDSL a few months ago and now they are releasing a new system I wonder what I shall do I hate you nintendo I hope everyone from nintendo dies a horrible death for doing this to me!!!! Even though unless I can get a japanese version I probably will not be able to get the system till mid 2009. Woah is me I might cry myself to sleep now.

 

[jampot5000]

Oh god please help me I just bought a NDSL a few months ago and now they are releasing a new system I wonder what I shall do I hate you nintendo I hope everyone from nintendo dies a horrible death for doing this to me!!!! Even though unless I can get a japanese version I probably will not be able to get the system till mid 2009. Woah is me I might cry myself to sleep now.

maybe that was a little harsh

 

[lcdec]

There's probably 2 cameras so you can video conference with other people over wifi.

 

[Rayder]

Just got home from work......read most of this thread before I went, read the rest just now.


This DSi does seem like a device aimed solely at the casual gamer, extreme Nintendo fans and senior citizens who have trouble seeing the current DS screens. The cameras are indeed only .3MP NOT 3MP. 640X480 resolution only equals 307200 pixels. For all intents and purposes that is .3MP. That resolution is crap for any REAL camera. It might look decent squished down into the DS's 256x192 res screens, but not on anything else. 1MP is one-million pixels. That's considerably more than 640x480, let alone the rumors of 3MP on the DSi. (1280x1024 is only 1.3MP) The camera sounds like just a come-a-long for noobs who hear "camera" and think they MUST have it without realizing how crappy the reolution actually is. Maybe they'll use it for adding your pic to DS-ware games or so you can take quick pics for use with its new built-in browser (here's a p1c of my pen0s har-har-har). Who knows, but I don't really see it as any kind of "special" feature.

Speaking of the built-in browser.....

I think the browser will be an improved version of the two-cart DS version of Opera. It would HAVE to be somewhat improved just to allow downloads of the DS-ware stuff. Whether it will provide any other new functionality is yet to be seen, but you can only hope Java might work....as well as maybe SOME Flash, but I doubt it, the DS just doesn't really have the power for it. I'd almost be willing to bet that GBA games will available to be purchased from their DS-ware deal to be played on the DSi, since it lacks a physical GBA port, but has extra onboard storage memory. The DSi WILL still have an ARM7 CPU simply because DS games require the ARM7 as well as the ARM9 to work. The SD card will store the "ROM" you download, as well as your AAC music and it will run through the extra memory in the DSi......as well being the RAM for the browser. I don't think they will completely eliminate GBA in the DSi, they'll just make you have to PAY for it. Remember, Ninty makes squat off the sales of used GBA games. So they found a way to make money off of them again.

If there will be firmware updates on the DSi, you can bet your ass that flashcarts won't work with it unless hackers come up with a way to make flashcarts absolutely, positively, 100% look like an official cart, or Ninty was dumb enough to leave the same (or similar) exploit in it that the DS and DSL has that allows flashcarts to work. They'll probably even rip off the hackers who created various emu's on the GBA and DS to provide downloadable "retro" games. It wouldn't surprise me.

The ONLY plus's I see with the DSi are the larger screens and the better sound. I don't think 1/2 inch larger screens will affect the quality of the graphics as bad as many think it will, and better sound is always....well....better. But everything else about it is just....useless to me.

That said, unless they come up with some AMAZING DS-ware download content for the DSi, I see no reason to get one. My DSlite is my "pocket arcade", I'm not giving up the nearly 600 games (GBA and various emu's) in my slot2, let alone the possibility of my "100-games-in-one" slot1 cart not working, for slightly bigger screens, downloadable casual noobware, low res picture capabilities or marginally improved sound. For a pirate like me, the DSi just isn't as practical as my current DSlite. Besides, I have my DSlite all accessorized the way I like it and many of those accessories wouldn't work with the DSi.
I'm not willing to start all over again like that.....especially not with the lack of good games on the system. Maybe you guys are impressed with a lot of the recent DS games, but I sure ain't. Even many of the games y'all consider AAA are crap to me. I'm sure if I listed many of the games I DO like on the DS, you guys would think THEY are crap, but that's how it goes for a 40 year old gamer who has ALWAYS had different tastes in games than everyone else.

To be honest, I hope the DSi is as big a failure as the GBAmicro. It would serve Nintendo right to see that gamers (true gamers anyway) are not willing to be fleeced.....again.