New build, No POST/boot

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  1. Shadowlurker
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    Hello there, recently aquired all my parts needed and built my new basic PC, However when I went to turn it on only the Led of the power button, and then later the led fan came on (then started flashing after I made sure everything was in the right slot) I take everything out and do the "mobo on a box" method and in which the PSU fan, CPU Fan and the GPU fan (when I had it inserted) span and nothing else, no Beeps, no message on screen.. Nothing.. perhaps the little speaker thing is broke. I mainly suspect it to be either the CPU or the Mobo itself..

    The PSU appears to be fine as I plugged it into a older PC this morning, but I can't do the same with the cpu or ram since they are different makes and generations, (spare PCs are Intel based and use DDR2 ram)

    So that leaves it down to the CPU, the RAM and the Mobo.

    I take out the ram and turn it on expecting to here the annoying no ram beeps but nothing...

    I've also heard that CPUs are the last thing that's expected to be wrong so thats another point towards the mobo.. I don't have any spare AM3+ CPUs or Motherboard nor do I know anyone with any, and I don't want to be charged enormous amounts of money to take it to a store (The only one nearby I can think of is PC World, and I don't think anyone would like to take their PCs there...)

    Am I on the right lines? Anything else I should do?

    Also if there happens to be anyone in the Southampton area that has an AM3+ CPU/Mobo I'd love to use them for 5 mins to test mine :PP

    Parts are ASROCK 960GM-U3S3 FX
    FX 4170
    Stock Cooler
    Sapphire HD6850 2GB DDR5.
    Crucial CT102464BA1339.M16 8GB X2
    250GB Barracuda HDD Sata 3
    Corsair 430CX V2
     
  2. Ryupower

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    no BIOS or bad Flashed BIOS, Dead MB

    missed a Small connection somewhere
    the MB to case connection(things like power/reset button) can be tricky make sure everything is in the right spot
     
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    before just saying it is a dead MB, try to take out the CPU and reseat it back in the socket.
     
  4. Shadowlurker
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    I've done that a few times to no avail.

    Gonna try everything one more time and if nothing then I'll have to bite the bullet and have to pay out of my own pocket to send the mobo back.. (which is annoying)

    Edit, Yup, something is definitely borked... Just wish I had a way of knowing..

    Edit 2, Emailed a local repair store and they said they'd charge £55 just to look at them... Yeaaaaah no.. that's more than the motherboard cost!
     
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    Sounds like a dead motherboard, same thing happened to mine a while back. Either return it for a replacement, or get a refund and grab another board.
     
  6. Shadowlurker
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    Small update, got a new motherboard (Still working on getting the original sent back but a few complications got in the way) and still nothing which must mean the CPU is dead which is mega frustrating since it was bought a couple of months ago so no return...

    I'm assuming a dead CPU would stop it from beeping even without the ram installed? or perhaps the speaker that came with the case is also broken..

    I mean at this point it can only be the cpu's fault..
     
  7. trumpet-205

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    Called AMD rep. Have that CPU warranty carried out.
     
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    The first mistake was buying an ASRock motherboard - those things are volatile as all hell, I bought an ASRock once and it died within a couple weeks without even using it extensively. Buy ASRock products if you don't care whether or not they damage the rest of your components.

    As for the CPU, I suggest trying it out in a different motherboard before you conclude that it's broken - after what I've experienced with ASRock and what I've read as far as opinions about their stuff is concerned, I wouldn't trust it even if ten of those would give me the same results.
     
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    very untrue, nothing is wrong with ASrock, DOA's happen whether it be MOBO or CPU. ASRock mobo's are fine as long as they are what the end user wants/can afford. I would say PSU is the most important component to spend extra money on.
     
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    I suppose their almost universally bad appreciation rate is a complete coincidence then.
     
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    I have had no trouble using ASRock boards. I switched from Gigabyte since they were more expensive and now have around the same amount of good and bad reviews.

    I am running a 3570k@4.2GHz+GTX470 with 16GB ram and my computer runs flawlessly. Of course, I got a good PSU also. An Enermax Pro82+ 525w.
    The board I am using is the z77 Extreme4
     
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    Good for you. I on the other hand wouldn't trust their products at all, just a personal opinion. :)
     
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    Regardless of brand, when dealing with sub-$80 motherboard, like 960GM-U3S3 FX, corners will be cut.

    I do recommend people to avoid Inel, ASRock, and Biostar (expensive model), for different reason. Intel and ASRock have sub-par BIOS/UEFI, and Biostar because they use hybird VRM design (not pure digital).
     
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    Biostar is another brand of Mobo's I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole with a condom on the poking end for added protection.
     
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    That's why I've gone with Asus and MSI, never had a single issue with either motherboard manufacturer :D
     
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    Same. For those two, most of their boards have features that are only available on their competitor's higher chipset boards. For instance, my M5897 board from Asus is every bit as good as my Dad's 990 board from Gigabyte from my experience. (Except SLI)
     
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    To be fair though, cheap motherboard = problems in just about any case, people often go for the best CPU, the best GPU and buy the cheapest Mobo in the universe to go with them because they think it doesn't matter and then are surprised by sub-par performance. It matters.
     
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    Well I recently found out the CPU is infact a OEM model (of which I don't think it was advertised as such but can't check up on it since the seller left and the page no longer exists which of course is very fishy) the seller is a very aggressive person who claims I'm lying so even though It's an OEM model I've contacted AMD just in case, i'll at least get their opinion on the matter..

    But no more updates to share besides the fact I still seem to be the only person in southampton that has an AM3 (am3+ or otherwise) that or no-one I've contacted is nice enough to let me borrow one to make sure everything is working.. perhaps after I've sent the asrock mobo back I'll just have to contact a repair store and negotiate with them.
     
  19. Shadowlurker
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    Sorry for the double post but this will serve as a bump and an Update, I got another CPU ( An FX 6300) and still nothing, I'm completely out of ideas..
     
  20. Celice

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    Chalk it up to the motherboard? Can you see if any pins were bent on your latest CPU? I had the misfortune of going through two noposts, both using the same mobo but different processors, and both times the pins were bent. I had done a couple builds before and never had any problem like this, and I made sure the CPU was resting in its snug little pockets, and set correctly. I was lucky enough for Newegg to honor a replacement and a refund for each attempt, which was amazingly nice of them.