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[kutis]

yea, but java has the api out there.. and i think it is simple enough to integrate the it within the browser... i have the runtime environtment.. but it's rarely appear,.. but i'm pretty sure there are more sites with javascript embedded... like ajax, visiting digg or flikr or any web2.0 sites does not executes the environment...

but flash, the plugin is provided exclusively by macromedia... hey, if the opera ds sells well all around the world, maybe one day they'll provide us with the plugin

 

[Dacvak]

First off, I have a PDA that runs the latest Opera Browser. I have a PSP with the 2.71 firmware. And I have a DS Lite.

With my PDA, everything loads fairly fast, and always is accurate to the actual site. I have a Flash plugin, but that being said, when you try to view anything large in Flash, like a YouTube video, you get poor results. My PDA, by the way, is one of the most advanced dedicated PDAs out at the moment.

My PSP also has Flash, however you get very similar results, making it particularly useless. Especially considering there's a limited amount of RAM, which usually won't cover a terribly running YouTube video, anyway.

Going off of what's been reviewed with the Nintendo DS Browser, you will get an overall poorer web browsing experience when compared to the other two. The PSP does have a larger screen, but of course the touch screen really help the DS. I suppose in this aspect, it beats the PSP browser. However, it's hard to justify the DS Browser when a PDA will beat the pants off of it.

That being said, the DS Browser is a brilliant tool. Dual Screen viewing is incredible, with the smaller version of the site on the bottom. It's brilliant, something that I wish was offered on my PDA.

I still recommend picking up the DS Browser, even if you've got a PSP or PDA. For two reasons: 1, it's far more practical than the PSP browser. 2, it's pretty damn cool. Seriously, it's a sleek browser on the greatest handheld ever made. Why not pick it up? If anything, just for email and bragging rights.

~Dac

 

[Thorisoka]

javascript is indeed on many sites, but there is no problem with them :/
integrating Java API is simple enough, yes, however it does not change the matter, it is huge (relatively speaking), and will use a lot of RAM
perhaps someday special plugin or runtime versions will be out for DS...

 

[OrR]

I don't understand why there isn't any flash/java support, seems kind of retarded. I mean, I know the browser is slow as shit as it is, just seems like lazy programming to me.

Dude, the DS has a 66 Mhz processor. How do you plan to make Flash work with that?

It's called optimization. Regardless of the DS's limitations, it can do flash. Look at the visual quality of some of the games, and you tell me it can't do flsah?

Of course it can't.

 

[Darkforce]

Natrium42 started porting flash to the DS, but progress doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Link.

So yeah flash within a web browser seems quite unlikely on the DS.

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[x_comp]

BroadbandWatch (BW) done a review of the browser and compared it with the built-in PSP browser with the latest firmware. Here's a quick summary of the points they made.

To test if the DS browser really runs at the theoretical speed of 1Mbps, they used BNR's Speed Tests, the heavy image loading test. After running the test 5 times, the DS came up with an average speed of 156.67Kbps. The speed should be affected by the heavy load on the CPU due to the images.

The browser has SSL support so you can login to shopping sites such as Amazon but, due to the fact that it doesn't retain cookies, you have to re-login to sites everytime you visit them. Popups are also disabled so sites that require those won't work well either.

When BW tried loading their site on both the PSP and DS, the DS actually finished loading the site first so it's not all that slow. However, the PSP does have a certain amount of Flash support, sound, video and a bigger, colourful screen on which you can read fonts more easily.

On the other hand, BW found it's much easier to enter text and browse sites using the DS stylus. Also, thanks to the memory expansion cartridge, the DS loads more sites when compared to a PSP using its built-in memory. When browsing several sites one after another, the DS will run out of memory but this can easily be corrected by resetting the memory and clearing its contents.

In the end, BW liked the easy to browse interface and way of inputting text, saying that users can do some casual browsing without the need to wait for a PC to bootup.

http://bb.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/special/14780.html

 

[kutis]

lol, 150 isnt that bad... my inet peaks at 190 (i'm in aus)

Natrium42 started porting flash to the DS, but progress doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Link.

So yeah flash within a web browser seems quite unlikely on the DS.

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now that swf player is do-able.. if one wants to reverse engineer the flash player (cannot be release commercially thou) but mind that it plays flash one at a time...

@Dacvak: yes, we realise about the RAM... read my & Thorisoka posts... i'm just saying about possibility and saying what could be done and why they dont it... about the PDA, either palm or ppc, obviously will kill ds and psp for browsing... but also bear in mind that the 'okay' pda cost 2x as much as a psp... not something for the toilet if u ask me,...

 

[Thorisoka]

even if the price were the same as the DS's, the idea behing Opera DS remains "you already have a fantastic handheld system, that has double screen and a touch screen, then why buying another system for web browsing when you can do it (decently ?) with your system ?"

and that's basically the same idea behind a set a PDA style functions on DS, which, if it were to be released, would work great (see DSorganize, "only" a homebrew...) and be very popular, for sure.

 

[Linkiboy]

They should have added the mobile phone java support. My LG6100 with 325KB of RAM can run that

Plus I know lots of fun games for mobile java

 

[AWESOME_noob]

Nintendo DS browser release in the UK = OCTOBER 6th!!!! , not long to go but got plenty of nice releases just around the corner to keep one-self occupied until then...

 

[TomIsADeftone]

So, Is there any chance of this working with M3?

 

[SpaceJump]

So, Is there any chance of this working with M3?

No, at least not yet.

 

[madri1]

still not working?
snif

 

[Darkspark]

Can I ebay using this? Or is it so slow, by the time I place my bid, the auction is already at an end?

 

[id242]

I ENTRD THIS POST TO GBATEMP FROM DS BROWSER JP

THIS IS GOOD? YES

 

[VascoAlmeida]

To the ppl thinking its slow.... its because the servers that redirect to the pages, are in japan, so it causes lag, like in other japanese games, like Bleach, etc...

 

[Hitto]

So it goes through a proxy, that's confirmed? That's a serious issue to me. I don't want Nintendo of Japan / Opera to know which porn sites I'm browsing, dammit.

 

[dreamc]

I saw there was a new version of the m3 manager and was hoping it was for this. Unfortunately, it's just added a "safe" mode

 

[Gifted1]

I hope soon it gets to work for M3. is it working on any other flash carts yet?

 

[stingfist]

Nopes none that we know