Native Firm question

Discussion in '3DS - Homebrew Development and Emulators' started by VashTS, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. VashTS
    OP

    VashTS Beat it, son

    Member
    3,896
    698
    Mar 14, 2009
    United States
    Upstate NY
    Hello,
    Sorry if this is the wrong forum but I have a question regarding Native Firm.

    Is Native Firm responsible for launching games and system settings? meaning if there was a problem with native firm (like 9.2 firm on 10.3 system) would that cause games and settings to fail to launch?
     
  2. mrissaoussama

    mrissaoussama Hiuhbi32

    Member
    198
    58
    Nov 23, 2015
    do you have a partial downgrade?
     
    VashTS likes this.
  3. Biff627

    Biff627 GBAtemp Maniac

    Member
    1,038
    371
    Aug 15, 2015
    United States
    If you have a partial downgrade, just run the downgrade again.
     
    VashTS likes this.
  4. VashTS
    OP

    VashTS Beat it, son

    Member
    3,896
    698
    Mar 14, 2009
    United States
    Upstate NY
    im unable to launch any homebrew, i know what i'm going with soft mods no worries there :)

    games and system settings freeze upon launch, im thinking it might be due to a screwed up native firm. if i hard mod then inject the proper native firm, im thinking this will solve it.

    im just not sure if i can do that with a 10.3 native firm. i believe im on a 9.2 firm with 10.3 system as far as i know.
     
  5. PabloMK7

    PabloMK7 Red Yoshi! ^ω^

    Member
    1,763
    1,038
    Feb 21, 2014
    Spain
    Yoshi's Island
    The responsible is the AM module, but the cause of the freeze may be because the app is corrupted in some way. (Or wrong sys modules installed)
     
    gnmmarechal likes this.
  6. mrissaoussama

    mrissaoussama Hiuhbi32

    Member
    198
    58
    Nov 23, 2015
    maybe it's a problem with the homebrew launcher? change the boot.3dsx in the root with a sysupdater and try again
     
  7. VashTS
    OP

    VashTS Beat it, son

    Member
    3,896
    698
    Mar 14, 2009
    United States
    Upstate NY
    Oot will not go past the press start screen. the problem is not with the HBL, its with the system.
     
  8. Gelex

    Gelex Member

    Newcomer
    14
    15
    Jan 17, 2016
    United States
    Native firm is one of the many parts of the system that are used to launch stuff. Firm proper contains some of the system modules that most of the 3ds applications need, including home menu. Home menu is the one that initiates launching stuff, and eventually asks some system services to launch apps.

    If you're having a lot of random crashing, that really sounds like a partial downgrade. If you're still working through Plailect's guide and don't have a9lh, your best bet is to really try to re-downgrade, but that implies getting hbl to load. One way to check if something screwed up, but requires hbl, is downgrade_chech by svan-something (on my phone, too lazy to look it up right now). An n3ds downgraded correctly will show around 5 or 6 mismatch or extra entries. O3ds should only show a few extra entries.
     
    VashTS and gnmmarechal like this.
  9. ChaosRipple

    ChaosRipple GBAtemp Regular

    Member
    260
    66
    Oct 1, 2015
    United States
    Try using Browserhax to enter the HBL.
     
  10. VashTS
    OP

    VashTS Beat it, son

    Member
    3,896
    698
    Mar 14, 2009
    United States
    Upstate NY
    I understand how this all works and it likely is a screwed up downgrade. I'm just trying to figure out how to fix it.

    I'm going to try hardmodding and installing a 10.4 firm - worst case, i toast it and new a new motherboard anyway.
     
  11. VashTS
    OP

    VashTS Beat it, son

    Member
    3,896
    698
    Mar 14, 2009
    United States
    Upstate NY
    anyone know if its possible to edit a backed up NAND.bin with all the CIAs from a system update or will that fail due to not being signed?

    I'm assuming its not possible, but I don't know much about hard mod flashing and what is possible with a NAND dump.