multi game card work on a 3ds?

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Nov 19, 2012

multi game card work on a 3ds? by wed at 5:55 AM (4,647 Views / 0 Likes) 10 replies

  1. wed
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    ok. so i was looking for ds games online for my son for Christmas and come across this website (*removed*) Am i to understand this will play on his 3DS? It says to check the Ver. of your DS before ordering for compatability?Where on his 3DS do i find this? Does it just slip into the regular card slot? Do you have to alter the 3DS in anyway or will it damage it? I'd hate to throw away money i don't have for something that won't work.Please help?!? In plain English please!! LOL, I hate sounding stupid about all this, but pretty clueless in the gaming tech, whatever. THANKS!!
     
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    It's basically going to be a flashcart with (most likely) non-updateable firmware. In other words, once the 3DS gets another update, that card is permablocked.

    As far as damage to the console goes, I wouldn't know, but I also wouldn't trust it.

    You'd be better off getting an actual flashcart like the Supercard DSTWO, a 8 or 16 GB microSD (32 if you REALLY want, but 8 has proven to be FAR more than enough for me for over 100 roms after they're trimmed), and go on a ROM downloading spree obtaining legally dumped backups of your personal, currently owned cartridges (nobody pirates here ;))
     
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    Thanks for the feedback,i do appreciate it!So another words, it will only temporarily work and they do not have the rights to the games on the card?Therefore it would be illegal to purchase?Is that what u mean?I'm not trying to "pirate" anything and i'm sorry if anybody was offended on this site with my "ignorance" of the subject.I just wasn't sure. my kids game wish list is a mile long and thought this was a good idea when i 1st seen it on craigslist. someone was selling one on craigslist for a dsi with games on it. I googled it to see exactly what a multi game card was and if u could buy them for the 3DS and came across that website.Couldn't find answer so i figured check a gamers site and ask.who would know better,right? Trying to BUY just like u can buy music,movies,or anything else online.Thanks for the the Supercard suggestion as well, i don't know if thats legal or illegal as well, but i wouldn't know where to begin backups nor do i even know what roms or trims r,lol. i think i'll just stick to buying the games from gamestop and b done with it. We r way over my head alreadY!!
     
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    AND TO THE OTHERS ON THIS SITE: apparantly i posted this twice. i read about rules/agreement whatever. jibberish!I simply asked a question because i know nothing about this stuff and u would think to ask people who do know things on the subject, would b a good bet. instead people want to complain and attack on here. if they want to kick me off the site for asking a question i didn't realize was against their long worded rules, go right ahead. i don't really care. But instead of attacking people who ask question maybe u could just INFORM them.U have the "information",i don't.i asked a question. isn't that the point of these sites...to share information with others.call me crazy,i don't get it?!
     
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    About the double topic creation - it happens. I didn't see anybody fly off the handle about it, but maybe they did in the other one. But like I said, internet acts up, you click the button, it happens to all of us.

    I'd suggest looking at the links Rydian posted. They're great ones to look at if you want to learn more about a flashcarts and what they do and how they work.

    But simply put, it's a custom cartridge (which in itself is legal, but not licensed by NIntendo) which has a slot for a microSD card, which you can put homebrew, music/media, and legally backed up games (but of course people pirate them, which is illegal. Keep in mind, asking where to get roms on gbatemp is very against the rules. If you choose to want to find them, they are a very simple google search away, but on gbatemp, you will not find them nor where/how to get them). But you essentially take your games, homebrew, and media and put it on the SD card and play them through the console; what that multi-cart does that you linked, except that would be illegal because you're not buying legitimate copies of the game (likelihood of getting caught is even less than downloading roms though). Problem is, Nintendo pushes out system updates all the time to try to block flashcarts; a big one just came out that may permanently block all carts except the Supercard DSTWO and one of the R4 3DS carts (don't remember which). Anyway, the manufacturers of these carts put out their own updates for the carts to get them running, despite Nintendo blocking them. However, that multi-cart isn't updateable. Once a 3DS update comes out, that will only be usable on (possibly) a DSi, and if not, definitely a DS/DS Lite.

    The Supercard DSTWO is what I have. I think it's a great cart, as do many others. Setting it up is a tiny bit complicated (but much easier if you read the directions on their site), but once you do, you would just need to obtain roms somehow, and put them on your SD card and you're pretty much good to play. You can optionally run them through a program called NDSTokyoTrim, which just gets rid of the useless garbage data (padding) in the rom. Basically, a game could be written to a 32MB flash chip on a retail cart, and the rom would be the same size, but the actual game itself could be something like 21MB, meaning there's 11MB of padding in there to make it fit, and you don't need it. But if you have a big enough microSD it's seldom an issue. Back when I had a 2GB microSD, it was. With my 8 or my 16, it's not at all.

    Anyway, you could absolutely take the moral high ground and choose to not get one, and just go legit with it. But should you choose to look into it, you've got plenty of resources on this site to look at.

    Cheers :grog:
     
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    If you decide to pirate games for your own sake, that's a thing (still illegal, but nobody need to know what you are doing with your flashcard once you got it nor where you get your games from).
    But selling pirated games is highly reprehensible. that website could/should be fined for selling pirated games packed in a flashcard.

    I'm sorry but I removed the link to that website.
    We do not allow website with illegal game download, and even less support websites selling copyrighted content.

    For more informations:

    Flashcards are legal as long as they are sold blank, free of games. they are tools used to run homebrew ( home made games and program for the DS). Optionally, they can also be used to play ROM dump.

    ROM = Read Only Memory. it's a type of chipset used in game cartridge.
    That memory's content can be extracted and copied to a file which is commonly (mistakenly) called a "ROM". It's only a file with the content of the chipset memory (containing the game's data).

    a ROM is a copy of a game from a chipset/cartridge, like a ISO is a copy of a disc's content.


    "Trimming" (shortened to "trim"), is the action of removing the unused data in the ROM file.
    A ROM dump (the file copied from the chipset) is always the size of the chipset, which is of specific size.
    But a game doesn't necessarily fill the entire available space in that chipset.
    for example, a game could be 42MB, and the chipset is 64MB.
    When dumping the ROM's content, the resulted file is 64MB (the full chipset size).

    But the game in that ROM dump is only 42MB, there are 22MB of data which is taking space but is unused. Trimming is the action of deleting that extra space at the end of the file.
    At a result, you get a 42MB file and you can store more ROM on your MicroSD and have more games at the same time.



    Just be sure that you understand that the flashcards will only allow you to play Nintendo DS games/homebrew.
    Even on 3DS console, it will not allow you to put 3DS games on it, only DS mode is working with flashcards.
     
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    It will never work.Stop trying to look for one,there isn't one that exists,you're wasting your time.I'm pretty sure it would be all over the net like a virus.
     
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    What are you talking about? He linked to one which exists.
    It was a DS flashcard full of illegal ROMs that the website was selling.
     
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    Oh,he found a legit one?
     
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    Like I said, it was illegal, that's why I removed the link to that shop.
    But the concept of multi-game cartridge exists since many years. I had one on NES 20 years ago. (100-in-1)
    The one he found was a 580-in-1 DS game cartridge. it exists, but they are not spreading like a virus.

    He only wanted to know if such cartridge existed, and it does. legality is another concern, and has nothing to do with spreading or not.
     

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