Homebrew MSET exploitation development question

[kehkou]

What do you mean when you say you found a copy of "a good Ironfall"?
Are you saying you found a CIA you can install into sysNAND and it will allow you to launch Ironhax?

Yes. For CFW users. And if you can launch the MSET exploit, you can install CFW.

 

[Jow Banks]

OK- guess I must be too naive and miss the point
I thought the purpose of Ironhax was to launch the CFW, but if you install a CIA of it in sysnand, it would just error

If you have to be in CFW running so you can use Ironhax - I dont see why you would need it.

 

[kehkou]

From what I understand, he wants to launch HBL Using MSET because he doesn't have Ironfall or Cubic Ninja. I explained that if he has MSET access he could use CFW to install Ninjhax or Ironhax, but a direct MSET HBL would be pretty sweet.

 

[honyo29]

it's really weird to me when someone with exploitable mset (can have cfw) want to run hbl on their sysnand outside cfw mode...
just install cn or ironfall.cia on your emunand and run hbl from there. you get to play all your installed games and your genuine retail games with hans or other homebrews.
what could you get from running hbl from mset that cant be achieved from running it from an emunand cfw?

 

[kehkou]

EDIT: dp sorry.

 

[gamesquest1]

From what I understand, he wants to launch HBL Using MSET because he doesn't have Ironfall or Cubic Ninja. I explained that if he has MSET access he could use CFW to install Ninjhax or Ironhax, but a direct MSET HBL would be pretty sweet.

....yeahhh, but also not exactly helpful, he said he wants it as a failsafe....but if he boots up CFW he can have HBL anyway via oot/browserhax/ninjhax he can even restore his themehax if it ever becomes uninstalled for whatever reason, so if its for a "failsafe" its already implemented by booting rxtools/pasta/reinand, its only 1 more step

 

[kehkou]

....yeahhh, but also not exactly helpful, he said he wants it as a failsafe....but if he boots up CFW he can have HBL anyway via oot/browserhax/ninjhax he can even restore his themehax if it ever becomes uninstalled for whatever reason, so if its for a "failsafe" its already implemented by booting rxtools/pasta/reinand, its only 1 more step

Its the only entry point to HBL using MSET I could find for this one, but then again, it has a busted wifi card. With MSET, I would imagine a launcher.dat that launches "boot.3dsx" in the root of the SD card would do the trick.

 

[Mrrraou]

Its the only entry point to HBL using MSET I could find for this one, but then again, it has a busted wifi card. With MSET, I would imagine a launcher.dat that launches "boot.3dsx" in the root of the SD card would do the trick.

It should boot the 2.5 otherapp payload first.

 

[peteruk]

thanks to everyone for replying here

just to answer one point... a couple of members have mentioned "if you hav MSET just instll CFW (rxTools" - but then how to get a cia installer installed without HBL (that is a conundrum), yes we can always install rxTools again through MSET but no cia install

so this would be a fail safe as explained previously

i encourage any suggestions on an MSET to HBL solution

MSET to 2.5 otherapp payload to boot.3dsx

Please

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....yeahhh, but also not exactly helpful, he said he wants it as a failsafe....but if he boots up CFW he can have HBL anyway via oot/browserhax/ninjhax he can even restore his themehax if it ever becomes uninstalled for whatever reason, so if its for a "failsafe" its already implemented by booting rxtools/pasta/reinand, its only 1 more step

problem being, if the sd card fails, or a fresh install is required, yes can install rxTools through mset no problem, but cannot install cia installer to CN/oot etc... and if webhax were to die or lose use of browser then we would be stuck

so there is a real need for this MSET to HBL

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it's really weird to me when someone with exploitable mset (can have cfw) want to run hbl on their sysnand outside cfw mode...
just install cn or ironfall.cia on your emunand and run hbl from there. you get to play all your installed games and your genuine retail games with hans or other homebrews.
what could you get from running hbl from mset that cant be achieved from running it from an emunand cfw?

Again, just to answer this, its a catch 22, yes can install rxTools in MSET but to get a cia installer there in the first place to install CN and if browser fails so there is no way to get HBL back

 

[honyo29]

Again, just to answer this, its a catch 22, yes can install rxTools in MSET but to get a cia installer there in the first place to install CN and if browser fails so there is no way to get HBL back

inject cia installer to health and safety app.
and you can repair your browser (especially if it's emunand browser)
or if the scenario is a busted wifi 3ds ask someone to install HBL to ironfall with the configuration of version you need and backup the save and send it to you, then restore it to your installed ironfall.

 

[peteruk]

inject cia installer to health and safety app.

Not always possible with N3DS using rxTools, a lot of functions wont work, cannot use Decrypt9 to do this because need HBL (catch 22 again) and no way to install Ironfall without installer (catch 22)

MSET to HBL is a real requirement

 

[honyo29]

Not always possible with N3DS using rxTools, a lot of functions wont work, cannot use Decrypt9 to do this because need HBL (catch 22 again) and no way to install Ironfall without installer (catch 22)

MSET to HBL is a real requirement

if you're talking about n3ds it wont come with an exploitable mset. even if mset to hbl exists, it cannot use it. if it cannot user browserhax, or cn or other entry points then you're screwed even with mset to hbl in hand.

i'm not against the idea of having mset to launch HBL directly, but i can see why people shouldn't bother.
plus launching HBL from emunand (if you can) is much better because you have it run on an updated firmware and more games can you play with hans (hans firmware spoof is not a work of magic that can make you suddenly be able to run zelda triforce on 9.2 sysnand).

 

[peteruk]

if you're talking about n3ds it wont come with an exploitable mset. even if mset to hbl exists, it cannot use it.

My MSET is exploitable as it was downgraded some time ago, so MSET will work N3DS, i can use it now to launch the GW loader or rxTools

I appreciate the discussion, but again, MSET to HBL would be ideal for many as is proven on this thread already by those requesting it

 

[MRJPGames]

What about people who are on 9.0-9.2 with no browser?

They can install a browser via a .cia using MSET.
Still anyone who has MSET has ARM9 which means they can literally pirate Cubic Ninja if they wanted to, there is still 0 need for this, all people listed as wanting this just haven't found out that there are already (better) ways of achieving what they want without a dev spending tons of time to achieve something the target adience can already achieve (even if it is slightly less convenient that's not enough to make a dev do that much work)

I'm out.

Edit: I'm in again I guess ...

 

[peteruk]

Still anyone who has MSET has ARM9 which means they can literally pirate Cubic Ninja if they wanted to

Not possible without some way to install it as you cannot get an installer installed on a N3DS without HBL, Devmode is not working for N3DS users in rxTools to inject FBI to H&S and the 2 other ways to install FBI would be Decrypt9 (requiring HBL) and FBI.3dsx (requiring HBL)

 

[MRJPGames]

Not possible without some way to install it as you cannot get an installer installed on a N3DS without HBL, Devmode is not working for N3DS users in rxTools to inject FBI to H&S and the 2 other ways to install FBI would be Decrypt9 (requiring HBL) and FBI.3dsx (requiring HBL)

Need I remind you that you will need an entrypoint to even downgrade MSET, and mset would allow for pastaCFW (mset version) wich allows cia installation. There you go "problem" solved XD

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Need I remind you that you will need an entrypoint to even downgrade MSET, and mset would allow for pastaCFW (mset version) wich allows cia installation. There you go "problem" solved XD

Oh and also fun fact, any N3ds that came with 9.0 (which is all western n3DS's) came with a browser included which makes browserhax a entrypoint which works on almost all n3DS except an extremely small part of JPN n3DS on 8.x.

 

[peteruk]

Need I remind you that you will need an entrypoint to even downgrade MSET, and mset would allow for pastaCFW (mset version) wich allows cia installation. There you go "problem" solved XD

MSET is already downgraded so the entry point exists already. I am not aware of any pastaCFW (mset version) which allows cia installation out of the box

Pasta CFW was my first involvement with CFW's in the early days of these new breakthrough's but i never saw an MSET installable version of it and didn't see a pre-installed cia installer in it either

 

[MRJPGames]

MSET is already downgraded so the entry point exists already. I am not aware of any pastaCFW (mset version) which allows cia installation out of the box

Pasta CFW was my first involvement with CFW's in the early days of these new breakthrough's but i never saw an MSET installable version of it and didn't see a pre-installed cia installer in it either

HOW was MSET downgraded exactly XD
https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-pasta-cfw-without-cubic-ninja-mset-4-x-old3ds.389498/ There I know it says old3DS but this is because there was no way to downgrade MSET on n3DS at the time this was released, it will work on n3DS with downgraded MSET.

EDIT: I might also add that there are actually multiple CFW that have a MSET version that can be used.

 

[peteruk]

MSET was downgraded originally with a GW card that has since been sold

The most interesting things that i have discovered by raising this question, is 1) that there are many others wanting this very same MSET to HBL exploit and 2) there are just as many that for varying reasons do not want to see this exploit

Some sort of conspiracy, i am not saying it's aliens but it's aliens

 

[MRJPGames]

MSET was downgraded originally with a GW card that has since been sold

The most interesting things that i have discovered by raising this question, is 1) that there are many others wanting this very same MSET to HBL exploit and 2) there are just as many that for varying reasons do not want to see this exploit

Some sort of conspiracy, i am not saying it's aliens but it's aliens

Ok let me put it another way, the only way this will happen is if one of the 5-6 of the people already craving for an entrypoint they do not need to create it themselves.

Now I will stay here until OP will delivar a great MSET to HBL.

edit: still waiting.

edit edit: come on man.

On another note, to get GW to install on n3DS you would need CN or OOT3D, and selling it is your own stupidity, that can again be fixed by BUYING A FUCKING EXPLOIT GAME GODDAMMIT. XD Didn't mean to get so angy but for some reason you keep on trying to find reasons why this might be needed while I'm just cruising along shooting your theories down like a boss XD

Ok well not quite but it does seem you're a little over fixated on not just you want this but it's needed. You want it, fine (a little strange but nothing wrong with it). You or anyone else needs this, well very unlikely.