Hacking Motherboard failure or Brick?

[marioemblem]

Apparently I had a bricked wii and sent it to repair... the guys told me that I had to replace the motherboard, and i was investigating and read that changing the motherboard is an instant solution to a brick, so I told them not to change the motherboard (Yeah, I'm cheap)

So the question is, what are the symptoms of a Wii with a failing motherboard? Like, can you turn it on? How much does it load? things like that...

according to this chart, I have a fullbrick (I can't boot a disc > When I use SaveMii the number is displayed > but I didn't try to update it with an original disc with an update, e.g. NSMB)

 

[Thomas83Lin]

When I use SaveMii the number is displayed > but I didn't try to update it with an original disc with an update, e.g. NSMB)

What Number\Firmware is displayed? Also do you have anymore info on the Wii? Did you purchase the Wii in this condition? If not have you installed anything recently
What happens if you just power up the console?.

 

[marioemblem]

When I use SaveMii the number is displayed > but I didn't try to update it with an original disc with an update, e.g. NSMB)
What Number\Firmware is displayed? Also do you have anymore info on the Wii? Did you purchase the Wii in this condition? If not have you installed anything recently
What happens if you just power up the console?.

It happened after I finished Playing GH. I just turned it off and the next day the Health and Warning message showed up, but the "Press A" didn't, and since then, I've been stuck like that. I tried SaveMii and it said I had the 4.0U (so, supposedly I should be able to update to 4.1U with NSMB... unless it's really a failure of the motherboard)

QUOTE(DeadlyFoez @ May 5 2010, 03:19 AM)

Well, if there is a hardware failure, it is still possible to get into recovery mode. For instance, just recently I had a wii in for repair that did have a vulnerable boot2 so I could inject bootmii into boot2, but when I booted it bootmii showed some strange artifacts and I could never get comex's nand formatter to successfully run all the way through even with the newer version.

There was no way around it, this wii had hardware failure goign on, but not to the point where it did not work at all.

But lets see if we can figure out what this person did not try? Who did you have try to repair it?

I haven't checked trying recovery mode... Can I inject bootmii as boot2 even if the homebrew channel doesn't load?
And the guy I sent it to was pretty vague. He told me he tried to reinstall the operating system, but it didn't work and he was sure it was a hardware failure... but I'm pretty sure it isn't, according to what I've read...

 

[mauifrog]

what softmodding have you done? Do you have a mod chip?

I think you can fix it, and it probably is not a hardware issue. Also if your on 4.0, you should be able to use the fish disk to load indiana pwns if you did not patch ios60.

Possibly just a simple format with the fish disk would help, since you really did not install or uninstall anything.

 

[marioemblem]

Well obviously you need to try doing the recovery mode with a savemii or savemiifrii. Tell us what system menu version shows up in the corner if one does at all. How old is this wii?

Give us as much info ass possible, and if you can then follow the threads in my sig and try some stuff out and report back what happens.

I DON'T have a modchip, I onle did softmods. Also, I tried the SaveMiiFrii, and my system menu is 4.0U. I tried loading some of the original games I have, but nothing happened. What I haven't tried is entering recovery mode and using an original game disk that has a system update of 4.1U/4.2U... but then again, if it's a hardware failure (seeming less likely now...) it would be useless.

and 2 quick questions, Can I recover from a brick using SaveMii/SaveMiiFrii if I don't have a modchip?

@mauifrog, what is the fish disk? Would it work without a modchip?

And BIG thanks to those that have been helping. I tried posting in other forums and got no responses >_>

 

[mauifrog]

The fish disk is the Nintendo Backup Disk, It does two things, you can format the wii, and install savegame files, like Indiana Pwns.

Updating to 4.1 via say New Super Mario Bros, may fix the issue. I am not sure if the wii will run the update without a modchip. One thing that updating will do is block the fish disk from running, so you would not be able to use it if you did update to 4.1 and the issue persisted.

If you are softmodded, Did you install preloader? Did you patch ios60?

I don't think you will be able to fix this without a modchip, preconfigured to autoboot, region free enabled, and update blocks disabled. You can't configure the chip on your brick, so you need the seller to do it or another wii.

If it was mine, I would probably try my luck with the format. Then I would try to reinstall ios60 and SM 4.1, via dop-mii.

 

[9th_Sage]

It should do the update, he said he's using a legitimate retail disc.

 

[marioemblem]

Hm... well, thanks to all. I'll try updating via savemii with NSMB... If that fails, I'll buy a modchip.

I'll tell you what happens. Thanks again for the help!

 

[Thomas83Lin]

You can Update via a Legit disc with a higher firmware in recovery mode . w\o a Mod-chip or hacks. although i'm wondering if updating would help him or make it worse.

 

[Thomas83Lin]

Loading a disc and updating with it are two different things.

 

[Thomas83Lin]

A disc wont load at all without the autoboot bit set, and not one retail disc has that.
exactly your not loading the disc only installing the update, I've tested this on multi occasions, without a mod-chip or hacks installed. I'm not going to argue with you on this until i'm blue in the face. test it yourself or go ask bushing, But remember ask him if installing a Update via savemiifrii not loading the disc is possible, then come back

QUOTE(DeadlyFoez @ May 5 2010, 06:47 PM) If you feel that I am truely mistaken then please post a link to the proof of it. I'm not saying you're lying, I think you're just mistaken unless you are able to prove otherwise.

Theres not must proof of it, actually most sites says you can't, but they are wrong, ask bushing or test it thats all i can ask

 

[Thomas83Lin]

Sure we both can test, in the past i tested with 4.0 to 4.1 With NSMB but seeing as i dont have the game any longer i could test with one of the following

Mario Kart
Wario Land
Metroid Prime
Super paper Mario

Is this one of those "You just have to have faith in jesus eventhough everything else proves it wrong" type of thing?

No Site or Info i could post would prove anything, Only testing yourself

 

[Thomas83Lin]

Use a Legit Disc No hacks installed.

I can make a Video if needed, But would it really prove anything.


Alittle info i did find

http://savemii.net/faq.html

Do I need a modchip in order to use SaveMii?

Not necessarily. You will need a modchip so that the Wii will accept a custom-made “autoboot” disc with your recovery tools on it. However, even without a modchip, newer versions of the Wii system software (3.0+) will try to install any valid update that is present on any legit Wii disc you attempt to boot with SaveMii. In some cases, this will be enough to let you install a newer System Menu and recover your console.

I'll be making a video shorty

 

[Thomas83Lin]

Soon as i get the video made i'll post it. the best i can do though is 3.0 to 3.1 with Mario Kart

edit: Video is uploading, 30 min to upload 10-15min to verify

 

[Thomas83Lin]

Specs:
Freshly installed 3.0U\IOS30 No System Menu Hacks Or Mod-Chip This was the best i could demonstrate it . Also note the update process may take longer depending on what all it as to install, on my System it only had to install the system menu and maybe its IOS

 

[Thomas83Lin]

Well hopefully you figure it out, Cause there's no trickery. Hopefully this info can finally get sorted.

 

[thesund0g]

I think you're either quitting too fast (the update process is rather unglamorous), you're using something like an out of region disc/sm, you have some preloader hack installed that's conflicting, or a modchip that's introducing some sort of incompatibility. Check them all.

 

[giantpune]

autoboot is triggered by a 0 or 1 as the first part of the game ID. update partitions show up as ".UPD" , ".UPE" , ect. the . in the update partition is a 0 or 1. so it is auto boot. hence, you can update from the recovery menu from a legit retail disc with no modchip or softmod.

 

[marioemblem]

I read all the posts. No wasted efforts

Thanks for the help BlackAce83 and DeadlyFoez, I have hope again that I'll be able to use my Wii.
I'll try using NSMB and tell you what happens (but first I need to have a retail disc >_>)

 

[mauifrog]

If your 4.1 update via NSMB fails, it will be very dificult to fix your wii. The update will stub ios16, and remove any patched ios you have that may be loaded by games.

It would be good to know if you patched ios60 or not. If you did not patch ios60 and the 4.1 update fails, your only hope would be SSDm (nand fill) and modchip- if that fails your screwed.

With 4.0 and a modchip you can install indiana pwns, which would let you run just about anything. You lose that option with the 4.1 update.

If you did patch ios60, your safe.