Homebrew Moonshell 2.1 Final Beta

[jurassicplayer]

Oh noes!!! The final beta has arrived and moonshell2 is coming to a close after 5 years of moonlight's hard work. From what Moonlight says, the final release will be about a week from today, given there are no problems in the beta. Visit his site to see his actual words.

On the other hand, since it seems that either everyone knows about it or nobody knows about it, but there seems to be a new application (a voice recorder xD). Its in the launch folder, works wonderfully (though due to my current ds situation, I can't try out everything I can think of), and it seems to be a stand-alone voice recorder, although I haven't tried it with anything else.

 

[CannonFoddr]

Thanks for the heads-up.
I've added your info to the Moonshell 2 Changelog

 

[Azlan Uchiha]

So does it means that No more moonshell till someone else do it??Awww....BTW didi anyone test it yet??n does it work with YSmenu?

 

[twiztidsinz]

So does it means that No more moonshell till someone else do it??Awww....BTW didi anyone test it yet??n does it work with YSmenu?

I don't think there will be anyone else doing it...
Homebrew on the DS is kind of dying off... and Moonshell's source isn't available -- even though from what I'm to understand, Moonshell is based off another opensource project.

 

[CannonFoddr]

So does it means that No more moonshell till someone else do it??

I don't think there will be anyone else doing it...
Homebrew on the DS is kind of dying off... and Moonshell's source isn't available -- even though from what I'm to understand, Moonshell is based off another opensource project.

Don't count it out just yet....For all we know Moonlight may be developing a new alternative to Moonshell - or he just want a break for a while due to other commitments

There was a time when he 'quit' development (when he got 'screwed' by M3 team - according to rumours) but then came out of 'retirement' to continue Moonshell.
[Why?? no-one really knows]

If he does finish totally with it - he MAY let some trusted programmers the source code so that they could continue the development
Or there may even be a totally NEW media explorer just waiting in the wings to come out - Maybe Menudo or something similar ???

 

[ProtoKun7]

So does it means that No more moonshell till someone else do it??

I don't think there will be anyone else doing it...
Homebrew on the DS is kind of dying off... and Moonshell's source isn't available -- even though from what I'm to understand, Moonshell is based off another opensource project.

Don't count it out just yet....For all we know Moonlight may be developing a new alternative to Moonshell - or he just want a break for a while due to other commitments

There was a time when he 'quit' development (when he got 'screwed' by M3 team - according to rumours) but then came out of 'retirement' to continue Moonshell.
[Why?? no-one really knows]

If he does finish totally with it - he MAY let some trusted programmers the source code so that they could continue the development
Or there may even be a totally NEW media explorer just waiting in the wings to come out - Maybe Menudo or something similar ???

Moonshell 3

Maybe a new Moonshell once DSi mode is available?

 

[House Spider]

Cool, direct .DPG recording.

 

[jurassicplayer]

Cool, direct .DPG recording.

What is this you say, direct .dpg recording, as in recording the stuff while using the ds (or something else)?

QUOTE(twiztidsinz @ Feb 5 2010, 09:33 AM) I don't think there will be anyone else doing it...
Homebrew on the DS is kind of dying off... and Moonshell's source isn't available -- even though from what I'm to understand, Moonshell is based off another opensource project.

Actually, I think if you just ask Moonlight for the source, he might give it (somewhere once I heard something like that...or maybe my memory is just screwing with me xD).

 

[CannonFoddr]

Cool, direct .DPG recording.

What is this you say, direct .dpg recording, as in recording the stuff while using the ds (or something else)? Perhaps he means direct DPG Recording while usng the DSi's camera

QUOTE(twiztidsinz @ Feb 5 2010, 09:33 AM)

I don't think there will be anyone else doing it...
Homebrew on the DS is kind of dying off... and Moonshell's source isn't available -- even though from what I'm to understand, Moonshell is based off another opensource project.

Actually, I think if you just ask Moonlight for the source, he might give it (somewhere once I heard something like that...or maybe my memory is just screwing with me xD).

Possibly - but Moonlight did have certain conditions, so he'll most probably only give it to 'trusted' people.
One thing he was adamant about was 'NO Commercial ROM running' (OK - I know he did 'Sakura', but for MS 2.07 onwards he altered it to 'block' the AKAIO/YSLoader plugins) so probably he would only give out the source IF the person promises not to include ROM running - of course that's not to stop anyone else finding an exploit to get round it

 

[twiztidsinz]

I don't think there will be anyone else doing it...
Homebrew on the DS is kind of dying off... and Moonshell's source isn't available -- even though from what I'm to understand, Moonshell is based off another opensource project.

Actually, I think if you just ask Moonlight for the source, he might give it (somewhere once I heard something like that...or maybe my memory is just screwing with me xD).

Possibly - but Moonlight did have certain conditions, so he'll most probably only give it to 'trusted' people.
One thing he was adamant about was 'NO Commercial ROM running' (OK - I know he did 'Sakura', but for MS 2.07 onwards he altered it to 'block' the AKAIO/YSLoader plugins) so probably he would only give out the source IF the person promises not to include ROM running - of course that's not to stop anyone else finding an exploit to get round it

But if what I heard is true -- that Moonshell is based off another Open Source program -- then Moonshell SHOULD be Open Source as well, no "only if you don't load commercial ROMs" etc stipulations, and you shouldn't have to beg and request the source, it should be readily available to anyone who wants it at any time.
Of course, this really depends on the type of license that was used.

 

[CannonFoddr]

I don't think there will be anyone else doing it...
Homebrew on the DS is kind of dying off... and Moonshell's source isn't available -- even though from what I'm to understand, Moonshell is based off another opensource project.

Actually, I think if you just ask Moonlight for the source, he might give it (somewhere once I heard something like that...or maybe my memory is just screwing with me xD).

Possibly - but Moonlight did have certain conditions, so he'll most probably only give it to 'trusted' people.
One thing he was adamant about was 'NO Commercial ROM running' (OK - I know he did 'Sakura', but for MS 2.07 onwards he altered it to 'block' the AKAIO/YSLoader plugins) so probably he would only give out the source IF the person promises not to include ROM running - of course that's not to stop anyone else finding an exploit to get round it

But if what I heard is true -- that Moonshell is based off another Open Source program -- then Moonshell SHOULD be Open Source as well, no "only if you don't load commercial ROMs" etc stipulations, and you shouldn't have to beg and request the source, it should be readily available to anyone who wants it at any time.
Of course, this really depends on the type of license that was used.

Ah - But was it Moonshell 1 or Moonshell 2 based on the opensource version ??
Perhaps it was only MS 1 that was 'opensource' based & Moonlight re-wrote some/most/all of it for MS2 making THAT version non-opensource. If so then Moonlight can stipulate whatever he likes

 

[House Spider]

Moonlight made Sakura and GBalpha added in the ROM loading. At least I think it was.

So he must not have like piracy at all.

 

[Chrono_Tata]

Moonlight made Sakura and GBalpha added in the ROM loading. At least I think it was.

So he must not have like piracy at all.

Um, no, he worked with GBalpha specifically to create a firmware that can load roms.

 

[Xenon++]

Hi I'm Xenon, who created a homebrew to make fake extlink.dat (See http://gbatemp.net/?showtopic=190959 ).

>But if what I heard is true -- that Moonshell is based off another Open Source program -- then Moonshell SHOULD be Open Source
>as well, no "only if you don't load commercial ROMs" etc stipulations, and you shouldn't have to beg and request the source, it
>should be readily available to anyone who wants it at any time.
>Of course, this really depends on the type of license that was used.
That's true. At least he uses Chishm's dlditool for DLDI autopatch.
But as he is indicted, when I asked for Corresponding Source Code(GPL term), he said he would include the source code ID with encrypted form to pursue the archive, thus it will be assured that only trusted person have the source.
I don't know what the "encrypted form" means, but analyzing it should be difficult.

 

[Normmatt]

He used gpl libraries for mp3, wav, and most image formats which means moonshell2 is technically licensed under the GPL and by not providing the source code he could be taken to court for not complying with the GPL.

 

[Flame]

anyway, wouldnt releasing the source code of moonshell2 be the best way to get back at GBalpha?

 

[Pika_power]

It doesn't really matter whether someone else picks it up or not, does it? Is there anything it lacks at the moment?

 

[twiztidsinz]

It doesn't really matter whether someone else picks it up or not, does it? Is there anything it lacks at the moment?

Commercial ROM loading.

 

[Xenon++]

by not providing the source code he could be taken to court for not complying with the GPL.
OK then please ask moonlight that if he continues archive pursuit system, which will prevent FREE redistribution under GPL, you tell the library authors to bring him a case. But he won't want other courts than Nintendo's.
Actually I'm so coward to do so. (in fact I'm a univ student

).

twiztidsinzCommercial ROM loading.

MoonShell

 

[boubikos]

hello.

I install the moonshell 2.10 final beta and i want to know how to return to the main firmware from moonshell.

when press the the "exit to the firmware" from moonshell he told me "cannot locate DEMO.NDS"
where i found this file?
And Sorry for english