Hardware Mig Switch on Switch 2

[frnovoa]

frnovoa mentioned russian forum - the source is the same so it means = public

I Dont know... bad luck... im still not banned... using that method. My switch 2 that was used to update games is not banned yet.



I dont know if you people dont evaluate the risk or maybe think that all methods are 100% secure.



I been telling you that for me is working without ban. If you get a perma ban is your problem and not my fault.







photo was take right now.. up switch 2 is the one with mig. The down one playing mk8 online now (january 8th at 9am)





remember, if you get banned it was a chance always and if you use any piracy method you have to know that you were at risk.

 

[Moontrap]

I Dont know... bad luck... im still not banned... using that method. My switch 2 that was used to update games is not banned yet.



I dont know if you people dont evaluate the risk or maybe think that all methods are 100% secure.



I been telling you that for me is working without ban. If you get a perma ban is your problem and not my fault.







photo was take right now.. up switch 2 is the one with mig. The down one playing mk8 online now (january 8th at 9am)





remember, if you get banned it was a chance always and if you use any piracy method you have to know that you were at risk.

It's ok - i'm not blaming you or anyone - i just posted my experience since i was doing the same method as you for a long time - until recently i was banned small offtop: it's mk world not mk8

 

[frnovoa]

It's ok - i'm not blaming you or anyone - i just posted my experience since i was doing the same method as you for a long time - until recently i was banned small offtop: it's mk world not mk8

Sorry i think you were blaming me.. jajaja true mkw not mk8 jajajaja

 

[chubbysquid]

Any xci or cert you don’t dump or own yourself (or privately with friends ) is considered public and not safe.

I will once again ask; if you make a private dump of a legitimate game and share with a friend, and you both play online at the same time; has anyone been banned for this?

Can Nintendo's servers see two people online at the same time with the same certificates? Have there been any confirmed bans coming from this?

 

[dolpf]

Have there been any confirmed bans coming from this?

No, you can try. If you and your friend get banned, let us know.

 

[switchy99]

I will once again ask; if you make a private dump of a legitimate game and share with a friend, and you both play online at the same time; has anyone been banned for this?

Can Nintendo's servers see two people online at the same time with the same certificates? Have there been any confirmed bans coming from this?

There is a post in this thread (that i can't find right now) where some guy tried and confirmed that you can play with 4 people online at once with the same private dump without getting banned. He did not try more people.

 

[bth]

I will once again ask; if you make a private dump of a legitimate game and share with a friend, and you both play online at the same time; has anyone been banned for this?

Can Nintendo's servers see two people online at the same time with the same certificates? Have there been any confirmed bans coming from this?

There is a post in this thread (that i can't find right now) where some guy tried and confirmed that you can play with 4 people online at once with the same private dump without getting banned. He did not try more people.

as someone who privately messed around with lotus before any flashcarts existed, and spoofed ceriticates just for funsies, played games online, with just some forced no-telemetry flags set.... (+ third-party private dns resolver hosted at home redirecting just telemetry and error reports to 0.0.0.0) from very public dumps of just .xci, with me just spoofing the certificate from mario rabbids and mario odyssey onto said .xci's of completely different games, such as splatoon, minecraft, mario kart 8, and so on. (at least 15 titles all requiring a "Nintendo Switch Online-subscribtion". and played with other people.)

(me personally never had my test console banned during any of my testing, but then again, times are different now)

They implemented checks for that gradually up towards 17.0.0, with 17.0.0 being the "mess around with this again and you'll get instantly banned" update. (in other words, october 2023)

anyone who will claim that you can use the exact same certificate, at the same time, without being banned, are basically just spreading misinformation. (* assuming they are playing said games, connected to nintendo and being online, of course, and not already banned)

if you don't all play at the same hour / days, it is completely irrelevant, assuming you're in the same "region".

i can attest to that some random guy working at gamestop, who dumped games at work, and played them at home, and shared them, got legitimate customers banned who bought said copies.
said person was usually source of early leaks to the switch scene as well...

not to mention this exists, and is not "FUD" (fear, uncertainty and denial)
https://www.engadget.com/general/the-morning-after-engadget-newsletter-111439608.html


people without any cfw, no flashcart, just the cartridge, which was dumped without their knowledge, can get banned .

 

[csab6482]

as someone who privately messed around with lotus before any flashcarts existed, and spoofed ceriticates just for funsies, played games online, with just some forced no-telemetry flags set.... (+ third-party private dns resolver hosted at home redirecting just telemetry and error reports to 0.0.0.0) from very public dumps of just .xci, with me just spoofing the certificate from mario rabbids and mario odyssey onto said .xci's of completely different games, such as splatoon, minecraft, mario kart 8, and so on. (at least 15 titles all requiring a "Nintendo Switch Online-subscribtion". and played with other people.)

(me personally never had my test console banned during any of my testing, but then again, times are different now)

They implemented checks for that gradually up towards 17.0.0, with 17.0.0 being the "mess around with this again and you'll get instantly banned" update. (in other words, october 2023)

anyone who will claim that you can use the exact same certificate, at the same time, without being banned, are basically just spreading misinformation. (* assuming they are playing said games, connected to nintendo and being online, of course, and not already banned)

if you don't all play at the same hour / days, it is completely irrelevant, assuming you're in the same "region".

i can attest to that some random guy working at gamestop, who dumped games at work, and played them at home, and shared them, got legitimate customers banned who bought said copies.
said person was usually source of early leaks to the switch scene as well...

not to mention this exists, and is not "FUD" (fear, uncertainty and denial)
https://www.engadget.com/general/the-morning-after-engadget-newsletter-111439608.html


people without any cfw, no flashcart, just the cartridge, which was dumped without their knowledge, can get banned .

Thank you for all of this useful information, I have a couple of questions as someone who doesn't know much about early Switch FW and modding.

1. The unique cartridge identifiers always existed, but were they just not implemented in early versions of Horizon OS? Your experience with the spoofed certs seems like things were much more lenient before. How did this change across major FW updates? On a similar note, was it always an instant ban to install NSPs on sysNAND or is that something that came about with an update too?
2. Is it still possible to do your DNS trick and play online? And if not how did this change across FW versions for that to be the case?
3. How does being in different regions affect two friends sharing a real cartridge and its MIG dump? Is this just because Nintendo can see "Hey this Switch played this cartridge in Italy and 20 minutes after they finished playing another Switch in Australia played the same cartridge" or does it have something to do with how different Switches in PAL, USA, etc. read games?

 

[bth]

Thank you for all of this useful information, I have a couple of questions as someone who doesn't know much about early Switch FW and modding.

1. The unique cartridge identifiers always existed, but were they just not implemented in early versions of Horizon OS? Your experience with the spoofed certs seems like things were much more lenient before. How did this change across major FW updates? On a similar note, was it always an instant ban to install NSPs on sysNAND or is that something that came about with an update too?
2. Is it still possible to do your DNS trick and play online? And if not how did this change across FW versions for that to be the case?
3. How does being in different regions affect two friends sharing a real cartridge and its MIG dump? Is this just because Nintendo can see "Hey this Switch played this cartridge in Italy and 20 minutes after they finished playing another Switch in Australia played the same cartridge" or does it have something to do with how different Switches in PAL, USA, etc. read games?

1. They gradually implemented the required telemetry and checks, after 17.0.0 the DRM was more or less fully implemented for it. - installing "nsp to sysnand" was always bannable as they always had telemetry for the ticketbins, and "installing nsps" adds the ticket unsigned to the public ticketbin, instead of signed into the private ticket bin.

(most reasonable automatic instant ban is them finding titleid 050000BADDAD0000 - tinfoil)
(it doesn't conform to 0100000000000000 - switch 1 or 0400000000000000 - switch 2 titleid format)

2. I will never share a defininitive answer for this, other than "for you? No."

3. apply logic, cartridges are physical entities, Nintendo has a reasonable "ok makes sense, this cartridge is just being shared among friends / it was mailed to another person / secondhand sold" and so on grace periods.

they also get telemetry from the exact region(s) the cartridge was used on last, if you have it popping up in australia, then US, then australia, then pakistan, then sweden over course of 7 days, then its quite obvious (again, apply logic), that something is up, and just flag those consoles for monitoring.

 

[chubbysquid]

Switch 2 system update 21.2.0 just got released a few hours ago.

Can anyone confirm MIG still works safely on the newest firmware without issue?

they also get telemetry from the exact region(s) the cartridge was used on last, if you have it popping up in australia, then US, then australia, then pakistan, then sweden over course of 7 days, then its quite obvious (again, apply logic), that something is up, and just flag those consoles for monitoring.

This is interesting. Are you confident that Nintendo "monitors" consoles for suspicious activity before banning them? Could they be monitoring them for a week? A month? etc.

 

[bth]

Switch 2 system update 21.2.0 just got released a few hours ago.

Can anyone confirm MIG still works safely on the newest firmware without issue?



This is interesting. Are you confident that Nintendo "monitors" consoles for suspicious activity before banning them? Could they be monitoring them for a week? A month? etc.

indefinitely and entirely automatic.

the switch is a telemetry beast, all it takes is for something to not look like it should and you'd be flagged as "suspicious"

 

[Zoria]

MigFlash/Switch works perfectly with firmware 21.2.0 (Test in sysNAND eMMC to block Nintendo's servers )

 

[PhoeniXnr1]

Does anybody know a site where to safely buy the MIG card? Tried a google search once already and lost my money, so looking for a site that can be trusted. Thanks!

 

[Prof0nWear]

Does anybody know a site where to safely buy the MIG card? Tried a google search once already and lost my money, so looking for a site that can be trusted. Thanks!

AE... look for "game card" check reviews.

 

[AshWeststar]

Does anybody know a site where to safely buy the MIG card? Tried a google search once already and lost my money, so looking for a site that can be trusted. Thanks!

The device itself is not legal within the EU, and so it may be seized regardless, once it goes through border control or customs inspection (avoid travelling with it too). Seeing the Dutch location on your profile... The Dutch Copyright Act includes an offence for importing devices whose sole intended purpose is to facilitate the circumvention of a technical protection device. If you acquired one through a local Dutch supplier site, this would avoid the border issue and probably be 'safer'.

 

[PhoeniXnr1]

Thanks for the information, I guess that's the reason why it is so hard to find it here. Have not been able to find a Dutch supplier. I will try AE and if that fails, than I am just out of luck I guess.

 

[csab6482]

Does anybody know a site where to safely buy the MIG card? Tried a google search once already and lost my money, so looking for a site that can be trusted. Thanks!

Below is a post I made in November with some of the AE listings. They use hidden names and photos to avoid being taken down.

You can still get them from AliExpress, but the listings have gotten a bit more creative and obfuscated. When I bought mine I had to search for "Mige Switch", but that doesn't work anymore. It looks like they're now calling it "MI R6" or just "R6". Below are some listings I found that are currently up.

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[ryudo77]

There were comments made about using Switch1 to update Switch2 but the Switch1 firmware has to be on 18.1. I just tried it with a couple of game updates (tactics ogre reborn ad Xenoblade Chronicles X) on my Switch1 fw20.4.0 -> Switch2 fw20.4.0 and it worked. My switch1 is running atmosphere 1.9.4. I don't think any of my switches are banned because they've never connected to Nintendo server. The update did fail when I let Switch1 created the game group to update. When I let the switch2 created the game group for version matching, it works fine.

 

[chubbysquid]

If you acquired one through a local Dutch supplier site, this would avoid the border issue and probably be 'safer'.

I strongly suggest you avoid all the supposed third party sellers listed on the official Mig Flash website. A lot of those supposed "official" resellers ended up being scammers that rug pulled their customers and disappeared when they got too many orders that they couldn't fulfil. Seriously, check the reviews on Reddit, a lot of people got ripped off after waiting months for their orders to ship. Just buy from Aliexpress.

 

[TheStonedModder]

I strongly suggest you avoid all the supposed third party sellers listed on the official Mig Flash website. A lot of those supposed "official" resellers ended up being scammers that rug pulled their customers and disappeared when they got too many orders that they couldn't fulfil. Seriously, check the reviews on Reddit, a lot of people got ripped off after waiting months for their orders to ship. Just buy from Aliexpress.

A lot even lied about switch 2 support eve claiming kt was tested weeks before the system was available publically