Microsoft

[MrCooper]

Does anyone actually like internet explorer, and if so why.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

He then comes in defense of Microsoft, the company that once all-but destroyed (through what just about everyone including the U.S. government thinks were unsavory means) the company Hewitt started his career at (Netscape).

10 years ago we bullied Microsoft into stopping innovation on IE so the W3C could take over. How’d that work out?

For those too young to remember, IE was innovating like crazy from 4.0 -6.0, right up until the DOJ and web standards commies intervened.

@jeff_lamarche Oh c’mon. Aside from ActiveX, Microsoft moved the web forward faster from 96-00 than any other browser maker has.

I don’t know why MS abandoned IE, but I do know that web developers were begging them to stop innovating and just follow the committee.

Hewitt’s take here is that the antitrust action against Microsoft halted innovation in Internet Explorer. In 1996, when Hewitt says IE innovation really started, that browser didn’t even have 10% share of the market, while Netscape had nearly 90%. As an underdog, IE had to innovate. Until, of course, they took over the web, and then Microsoft inexplicably all-but abandoned the product.

Hewitt then turns to the rise of the app stores (including, yes, the App Store).

Why are app stores threatening the web and luring developers like me away from it? “Evil” proprietary tech is blowing the web away.

I want desperately to be a web developer again, but if I have to wait until 2020 for browsers to do what Cocoa can do in 2010, I won’t wait.

The “‘Evil’ proprietary tech is blowing the web away” quote is pretty compelling (I’m still kicking myself for not using it in the headline). Again, Hewitt’s point here is that the web is nowhere near where non-web technologies like Cocoa are — and won’t be for a decade.

@KuraFire Did Microsoft patent their non-standard html/javascript/css extensions, preventing other browsers from implementing them?

@johnfoliot True, they [w3c] don’t dictate, but developers shame others who use non-standard APIs. That’s the problem.

He wonders here why some of Microsoft’s standards weren’t adopted by the W3C? Then blames the web developers for shaming other developers who use tech not sanctioned by the governing body.

I am ranting because I want to drop Cocoa and go back to the web, but I am upset about how much power I have to give up to do that.

How it should go: browsers innovate differently, users pick the best one, later W3C standardizes what users chose, losing browsers conform.

Source: http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/30/joe-hewitt-web-development/
he presents a valid point, just a pity that Internet Explorer failed at all its "innovation"

 

[giratina16]

Internet Explorer sucks cow nipples, Google Chrome is the best.

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

No. The only only people that use IE are people that don't know anything about computers and think IE is the internet. Google Chrome FTW. (and soon ChromeOS

)

 

[imlgl]

No. The only only people that use IE are people that don't know anything about computers and think IE is the internet. Google Chrome FTW. (and soon ChromeOS

)

What about firefox

 

[prowler]

No. The only only people that use IE are people that don't know anything about computers and think IE is the internet. Google Chrome FTW. (and soon ChromeOS

)

If you are on Windows you're using IE if you like it or not.

 

[Thoob]

No. The only only people that use IE are people that don't know anything about computers and think IE is the internet. Google Chrome FTW. (and soon ChromeOS

)

If you are on Windows you have IE if you like it or not.

Fixed. You can't get rid of it, but you just choose not to use it.

 

[Deleted User]

I can use Internet Explorer in Firefox. Firefox is safer and a lot funnier with all the fun addons it has. Addons make Mozilla Firefox the best. Google is even better than Internet Explorer. Microsoft should just include Mozilla Firefox with Windows 8 in 2012.

 

[Langin]

Safari FOREVER! Yea thats teh browser I use on my p.c. with windows xp.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

No. The only only people that use IE are people that don't know anything about computers and think IE is the internet. Google Chrome FTW. (and soon ChromeOS

)

It's true. I'll be like "Oh, I use Firefox at home" and people will be like "What is that?" Then they get the total epiphany that Internet Explorer is not in fact the internet, just a means of browsing it.

I used IE for a while and then I eventually started using Firefox. Firefox + AdBlock Plus is all I really need to be satisfied.

 

[House Spider]

IE8 is what I'm using now. I like how I don't ave to reload a page like 20 times just for it to download. Thats probably just with me.

 

[The Catboy]

I use Firefox and Google Chrome myself, I haven't used IE in years, hell even when I get a new computer or on a computer i have never been on I use Firefox from my flash drive just so I can download and install firefox on that computer.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

I use Firefox and Google Chrome myself, I haven't used IE in years, hell even when I get a new computer or on a computer i have never been on I use Firefox from my flash drive just so I can download and install firefox on that computer.

why not just carry around a 3.6 installer?

 

[Deleted User]

I use Firefox and Google Chrome myself, I haven't used IE in years, hell even when I get a new computer or on a computer i have never been on I use Firefox from my flash drive just so I can download and install firefox on that computer.

why not just carry around a 3.6 installer?

There's a portable version of Firefox as well, I would like to add.

 

[The Catboy]

I use Firefox and Google Chrome myself, I haven't used IE in years, hell even when I get a new computer or on a computer i have never been on I use Firefox from my flash drive just so I can download and install firefox on that computer.

why not just carry around a 3.6 installer?

You know I really only half plan everything.

 

[Danny600kill]

I'm in love with Chrome, before that I used Firefox i got chrome when it was first released and i have used it since, it is amazing imho

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

I use Firefox and Google Chrome myself, I haven't used IE in years, hell even when I get a new computer or on a computer i have never been on I use Firefox from my flash drive just so I can download and install firefox on that computer.

why not just carry around a 3.6 installer?

You know I really only half plan everything.

you might be interested in http://ninite.com/
...just don't let it install WinAMP... it does it wrong.

 

[Rogue_Syst3m]

firefox ftw !!!!

 

[Advi]

Opera all the way.

 

[ProtoKun7]

Firefox has AdBlock Plus, Download Helper and Firebug. (These are the only addons I have installed anyway, there are more on my dad's computer.)

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