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newg said:
so your argument is that he might not have been a smurfphile, but there's nothign wrong with a mentally ill 50 year old man sleeping in bed with young boys?

fuck that, believe what you want, but IMO it's FAR more likely that he was a smurfphile than not. I'll grant it's not 100%, but I believe it.

Occam's Razor: HE was a mentally ill old man who acted like a child, and slept with young children who were not his own children.

My argument is that there was no hard evidence, and everytime somebody accused him there was another witness declaring that the prosecution was lying.

Believe what you want to believe, I suppose that's the problem with a world run by the media.
 

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Guild McCommunist said:
newg said:
so your argument is that he might not have been a smurfphile, but there's nothign wrong with a mentally ill 50 year old man sleeping in bed with young boys?

fuck that, believe what you want, but IMO it's FAR more likely that he was a smurfphile than not. I'll grant it's not 100%, but I believe it.

Occam's Razor: HE was a mentally ill old man who acted like a child, and slept with young children who were not his own children.

Shut up. It doesn't matter if he was a child molester, he made some of the best and most influencial music in the world WAY before any of that. You have to recognize that. I doubt you'd be saying that John Lennon was some hippie pot head if you were around when he got shot.

Yes I agree completely, I love plenty of his tracks, especially 'Man in the Mirror' - fantastic music.

But he fact that he was a child molester matters. I'm not going to mourn the death of a child molester. Being a child molester doesn't stop his music being great, it just means the artist is a smurfphile.

I don't have to like michael to enjoy his music: eg: Bono is an asshole, but I love U2's music.
 

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Thing is people call him a peado and what not....alot of these dickheads listen to r'n'b...a genre who was represented by artist such as "R Kelly" who...correct me if im wrong...but pisses on lil kids? And im sure thats more confirmed than jacko touching/sleeping with kids.
 

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Law said:
newg said:
so your argument is that he might not have been a smurfphile, but there's nothign wrong with a mentally ill 50 year old man sleeping in bed with young boys?

fuck that, believe what you want, but IMO it's FAR more likely that he was a smurfphile than not. I'll grant it's not 100%, but I believe it.

Occam's Razor: HE was a mentally ill old man who acted like a child, and slept with young children who were not his own children.

My argument is that there was no hard evidence, and everytime somebody accused him there was another witness declaring that the prosecution was lying.

Believe what you want to believe, I suppose that's the problem with a world run by the media.

I know there was no hard evidence, there never is in rape or sexual abuse cases, but that's not the point. you seem intent in thinking i'm blindly following the media by thinking he was a smurfphile, when in truth, i'm just extrapolating from michaels own comments, and coming to the most logical conclusion.

none of my comments have referenced any media opinions at all, only michaels own statements and occam's razor. this is why i believe he was a smurfphile, not because of the media. I don't even own a tv.
 

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I'm personally appalled at some of the comments I've seen on other websites, it's sad how trolls come out at times like this strictly to try and stick out above the rest of the scum. I'll believe the courts rather then some internet users, and a comedian who was in the nuthouse(Katt Williams), I know our courts aren't perfect but the so called evidence was just too faulty.
 

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newg said:
But he fact that he was a child molester matters. I'm not going to mourn the death of a child molester. Being a child molester doesn't stop his music being great, it just means the artist is a smurfphile.
The only 'proof' of him being a child molester was a testimony of two people which was completely refuted in court.
 

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Enough with the Occam's Razor crap. The simplest and most obvious answer is that there isn't enough evidence to prove or disprove if he was a smurfbear. And let's focus on the music (aka back when he was black) and not the child touching crap.
 

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MaHe said:
The only 'proof' of him being a child molester was a testimony of two people which was completely refuted in court.

The same American judicial system that set free a couple celebrity murderers, with plenty of publicized evidence against them (Robert Blake, OJ Simpson).

Yeah, your argument is convincing.
 

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Guild McCommunist said:
newg said:
so your argument is that he might not have been a smurfphile, but there's nothign wrong with a mentally ill 50 year old man sleeping in bed with young boys?

fuck that, believe what you want, but IMO it's FAR more likely that he was a smurfphile than not. I'll grant it's not 100%, but I believe it.

Occam's Razor: HE was a mentally ill old man who acted like a child, and slept with young children who were not his own children.

Shut up. It doesn't matter if he was a child molester, he made some of the best and most influencial music in the world WAY before any of that. You have to recognize that. I doubt you'd be saying that John Lennon was some hippie pot head if you were around when he got shot.

Dude seriously if i were face to face with you i would knock your teeth out! ridiculous statement what if it were your children!!
 

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and nothing of value was lost.
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lesj1989 said:
Guild McCommunist said:
newg said:
so your argument is that he might not have been a smurfphile, but there's nothign wrong with a mentally ill 50 year old man sleeping in bed with young boys?

fuck that, believe what you want, but IMO it's FAR more likely that he was a smurfphile than not. I'll grant it's not 100%, but I believe it.

Occam's Razor: HE was a mentally ill old man who acted like a child, and slept with young children who were not his own children.

Shut up. It doesn't matter if he was a child molester, he made some of the best and most influencial music in the world WAY before any of that. You have to recognize that. I doubt you'd be saying that John Lennon was some hippie pot head if you were around when he got shot.

Dude seriously if i were face to face with you i would knock your teeth out! ridiculous statement what if it were your children!!

I'm 16, so technically I'm still a child (I guess). His music was great regardless.
 

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This makes me really sad. he did some of my favorite songs and videos that I grew up with. You will be missed.
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Also WTF is wrong with some of the comments I am reading? Yeah one of the greatest icons in American history dies, so lets troll him. I mean, there should be a limit to "teh lulz". Have some decency people.
 

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NeSchn said:
jaxxster said:
If he's dead then dont forget that today is the day music died alot! What pisses me off is so many lil kids making jokes, but none of thier faggot artists like 50 cent and shit could ever sell the amount of records he has or could they ever change music the way he has. Honestly, this is such a sad day for music! Im actually close to crying, i dunno why but im just upset that a legend has died.

+1

Fuck now-a-days music. Thats why I tend to listen to old-school music.

I couldnt agree more with you two, it seems most people dont realise how shallow and worthless most of the mass produced garbage released these days is. All the "HAHA P3DO IS DED" comments are inevitable, and fuelled by ignorance. Now I will not try and defend what he did or did not do in life. At the end of the day it would be impossible to prove what actually happened behind closed doors, how many allegations were fuelled by money and the attempt to gain fame, and which ones are true.

But the bottom line is one of the most famous men who ever lived is dead. An eccentric and deeply flawed genius, who was never allowed to have a childhood or an adulthood. Who never once was able to do the normal things that you and I take for granted. But who did extraordinary things the likes of which we could never dream of doing. A person who by shear talent, creativity and genius was known to billions of people.

Dont underestimate what has happened today. The last pop megastar, equal to legends like Elvis, John Lennon and Frank Sinatra is gone forever. And in these shallow, fad fuelled times, where "popstars" rarely can even think of an original title for a song, never mind write albums that shape the industry, and which are embraced by the world, is gone. And the likes of him will never be seen again thats for sure.

Rest in peace Michael.
 

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Dont forget that everything MJ done to build a succesful and strong music industry...Recently 50 cent, the saturdays, girls aloud, nelly, "i piss all over lil girls" r kelly etc etc have torn down everything he done. It's artist like the previously mention that are the reason the world doesnt have a music industry. Who wants to buy the same music made by 20 different artists? If mainstream music was different then the industry wouldnt be in such bad shape...but seriously...thank you shit hop and r'n'b artist for undoing everything good working artist back in the day done. Seriously anyone making jokes about it should be ashamed by themselves.

Today is seriously a very sad day. I had tickets too see him in 2 months, im upset i wont ever get to see this legend in the act but i just hope the money i paid to see him goes towards his kids, to help them out.
 

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He wasn't a child molester, he was FUCKING FILTHY RICH, When he announced he wsa broke, everyone left him alone, he had so much money, he owned his music and owned the Beatles music for almost a decade, imagine how much money that made him.

He even had that mega successful game with SEGA. when the game arrived in the local arcade parlor in my town, Everyone turned of the other games just so when can see the game and hear the music.

Sadly, he was a child star that by 12 he already was working to support his family, never had a normal life and imagine all the people that surrounded him when even his family were assholes.

The world was finally too much for him, he grew to be a living icon, and this tragedy will only confirm how great and tragic his life was.

Just the fact that Barack Obama is a president thanks to him that broke the racist world of entertainment, imagine how white artists that grew in a world where black people weren't allow in the same places as white, suddenly had to work for a black guy.

the person has passed and the legend starts. I still can't believe it.
 

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