Mathieu Explains 3.60 Exploit

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The cats out of the bag, after many subtle hints, Mathieu explains his exploit and how it will lead to application keys. With the help of this loader exploit, devs can now obtain the Bootloader keys which will lead to the Application keys and eventually, a 3.60 CFW! With application keys, Portal 2 and future 3.60 encrypted games may soon be playable!

Synopsis of Mathieu's explanation of the exploit:

The function that copies the SCE header from the shared LS to the isolated Local Store doesn’t check the header’s size.

[So] you craft a self with a HUGE header so [that] it overwrites ldr code as it gets copied to the isolated LS and you wait [for] the loader to jump to it.

[Then] you can get lv0 decrypted, once you get lv0 decrypted, you get appldr, once you get appldr, you get 3.60 application keys, [and] once you get that, you [get] warez.



Mathieu's full conversation regarding the exploit:

X nah, not a single line of code, at least not for the implementation
but finding the exploit itself
is EASY
except no one has gone looking
I’ve seen lots of askings and whining, very little looking xD
if someone who remotely knows spu reversing starts looking
he’ll find it
at the very worse in a matter of hours
the bug is ******ly stupid to begin with
LV0, EID0, anything with coreOS imo should not be done without a hardwareflasher. Atleast with that you can undo the mess.
yeah
I am a bit of a red head here xD
you keep saying that, but I suck at SPU assembly
you’d find it even if you fail at it
you just need to know where to look
just look at how selfs are processed by ldrs
and you’ll find it
hell, I’ll help you, it’s about overflowing a certain buffer
yes, that is what defyboy and I tried to document in the ps3devwiki : bootprocess and loader locations etc.
well if you know how selfs are processed by loaders, it’s easy
another hint
it happens before the ecdsa check
my earlier guess btw was that it was a header overflow, which gave access to the local storage
It’s a ******ed exploit
if you want to know what it is, I’ll tell you
the function that copies the SCE header from the shared LS to the isolated Local Store
doesn’t check the header’s size
\o/
it’s just THAT ******ed
implementing it isn’t easy though
cause loaders have failsafes and ****
header size fail
lol
?
but now that you know, you can try it on your own
X1 yes
you craft a self with a HUGE header
so it overwrites ldr code as it gets copied to the isolated LS
and you wait the loader to jump to it
lolol must try heh
X1 it’s a total ***** to implement
but feel free xD
if someone pwns the bl with this and gets the keys, he’ll have my kudos
cause finding the exploit is the easy part
Sony’ll fix it now, but it’s not like I care much
their “unhackable” ps3s are probably already on the way

Mathieu explains the impact the exploit/keys have on Sony:

why would they care about bootldr keys?
ps3devnews etc. host metldr keys, appldr keys etc.
X1 cause you can get lv0 decrypted
once you get lv0 decrypted
you get appldr
once you get appldr
you get 3.60 application keys
once you get that
you warez
also, with those keys you can sign your own lv0, no ps3 fw update can beat you then
yah
you can have your 3.60+ custom firmware then
and warez even more
and mess with the psn again
and so on


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i doubt it will be that easy. They said after geting the private key that sony is gone and now look, they are working on 3.6. Pretty sure sony CAN do something to block even this but this is good news for hackers.
turn ur attention to the 3ds please!
 
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This is good news.
I can't wait to play Portal 2!

shakirmoledina said:
i doubt it will be that easy. They said after geting the private key that sony is gone and now look, they are working on 3.6. Pretty sure sony CAN do something to block even this but this is good news for hackers.
turn ur attention to the 3ds please!

NO. Let it live. I don't want hordes of shovelware like the DS.
 

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Zorua said:
NO. Let it live. I don't want hordes of shovelware like the DS.
They're only shovelware because you choose them to be. I find DS's library to be awesome. So start working on that 3DS and break that region lock!
 
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Zorua said:
I can't wait to play Portal 2!
if you can't wait...
you can buy it on steam


My computer's extremely weak.

squall23 said:
QUOTE(Zorua @ Apr 22 2011, 03:18 AM)
NO. Let it live. I don't want hordes of shovelware like the DS.
They're only shovelware because you choose them to be. I find DS's library to be awesome. So start working on that 3DS and break that region lock!

O rly? Ever heard of the infamous 'Imagine' series? And 'Littlest pet shop'?
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Hey, nowhere did I say that all DS games were good, that's an impossibility. But to say that the DS is full of shovelware means that you're ignoring stuff like Ouendan, Trauma Centre, Tales of Innocence, etc etc, I can go on and on.

In fact, now that I think about it, EBA wouldn't even exist if the import rate of Ouendan didn't get so surprisingly high. So yeah, hacking = no region locks. No region locks = better 3DS.
 
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squall23 said:
Hey, nowhere did I say that all DS games were good, that's an impossibility. But to say that the DS is full of shovelware means that you're ignoring stuff like Ouendan, Trauma Centre, Tales of Innocence, etc etc, I can go on and on.

In fact, now that I think about it, EBA wouldn't even exist if the import rate of Ouendan didn't get so surprisingly high. So yeah, hacking = no region locks. No region locks = better 3DS.

Don't get me wrong here.
I'm a ninty fanboy.
The DS is full of shovelware.
Go have a look at your favorite rom site and look at the latest releases.........

Let's stop derailing the thread now.
 

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Zorua said:
mercluke said:
Zorua said:
I can't wait to play Portal 2!
if you can't wait...
you can buy it on steam


My computer's extremely weak.

squall23 said:
QUOTE(Zorua @ Apr 22 2011, 03:18 AM)
NO. Let it live. I don't want hordes of shovelware like the DS.
They're only shovelware because you choose them to be. I find DS's library to be awesome. So start working on that 3DS and break that region lock!

O rly? Ever heard of the infamous 'Imagine' series? And 'Littlest pet shop'?
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Ever heard of Pokemon?
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I can't believe I'm defending something like "Littlest Pet Shop" (add 'of Horrors' and it could be awesome), but just because you don't like it (and it isn't targeted at you) doesn't make it shovelware.


Hell... I think Pokemon is THE definition of shovelware. Every "generation" has 3 if not more games.
 

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Now Sony must stop messing around and start working against this exploit. I wonder if they still have someone working on that area, or if they fired everyone
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twiztidsinz said:
Ever heard of Pokemon?
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I can't believe I'm defending something like "Littlest Pet Shop" (add 'of Horrors' and it could be awesome), but just because you don't like it (and it isn't targeted at you) doesn't make it shovelware.


Hell... I think Pokemon is THE definition of shovelware. Every "generation" has 3 if not more games.
Pokémon series has quality, even tho each gen comes around with 3 games. Can you say the same about the infinite amount of crap inside the DS library, like the Imagine series? I really doubt that!

Let's face it, the DS has a nice number of gems, but they are surrounded but an enourmous number of quick cash-in games made for little kids - because those are the ones buying games (via their moms), while "older gamers" have this tendency to pirate.
 

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Even if all this is true I have absolutely no respect for Mathileu.

He has repeatedly given his "formal" goodbye to the PS3 scene, teases about exploits only he has but wont release, and then when an even sh**ier team like X3 releases an exploit he has the audacity to claim he had it first, with no proof at all. he isnt a complete dofus and has released some honest good code in the past, but really i think he is just an ego hungry hack.

on the one hand I hope this exploit is true, but on the other, since its from him I kinda hope its not true >.>
 

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Wasn't this the case with 3.56 too? I believe this guy teased and released the exploit (sort of) and nothing happened? I hope this isn't a get-your-hopes-up-for-nothing case.
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