Macbook? Or Tablet PC with hacked Mac OSX?

[FrEEz902]

leopard works about the same except it has a lot more features. the modbook comes with leopard.


edit: one huge downside to the modbook is that it has no keyboard

... You should've mentioned that earlier -.-. Lol no keyboard=fail. I can't have a laptop with no keyboard o.O

 

[FrEEz902]

wait, i hadn't catch this before "(e.g. chatting with it on MSN and such)"

what do you mean?

i'd say get what you feel most comfortable with. in your case that would be a tablet pc. if by any chance you have a project that definitely requires a mac, you might have to spend more time in school using theirs which at my school it was encouraged and sometimes demanded that we never went home since most of what you'll learn will be from other classmates. isolation won't teach you anything.


Hmm, thanks for that, but i would feel happy having my own PC, which i can do whatever i want to on it, e.g. while working, i take a break and show a friend a video for example etc.

What i mean by chatting on MSN, is with handwriting. You can chat on MSN *MESSENGER* with the pen, and 'draw' whatever you want to your friends. It has a pretty good response too. You can also write, and it will automatically recognize your handwriting, and send it as text. 'So download MSN messenger now' [ /advertising]

Edit: It will also feel a bit awkward to draw on the tablet and look at the screen >_

 

[FrEEz902]

Wait until Macworld on the 14. Maybe you'll get your tablet Mac.

EDIT:BTW, OSX86 isn't a very good idea. It takes a lot to keep them up, and you NEED to be ABSOLUTELY sure you're PC will support it. I would, personally, get a Windows or Linux (with Windows Dual-booted) tablet. Everything Mac can do PC can do. Don't buy into all that hype. The only difference is you don't get everything out of the box and you don't pay hundreds of extra dollars for a fancy label.

If i get my tablet Mac, i would be happy :3. I really hope they release it, and I also hope it's not OMFGWTFBBQZOMGAD expensive ._.

Also, i know everything a Mac can do a PC can do, but i heard from alot of sources that Macs are better for graphics, and graphical application e.g. Photoshop, Autocad, etc. etc.

 

[R-Unit 4]

Macs cost a lot trust me. I have one so I would know. However when you think about ALL the extras they give you compared to what XP and Vista does( I have XP and all my friends have Vista. They said they want to downgrade.), you'll understand why it costs so much. But if you are strapped for cash, build the computer yourself and install Mac OX X on it.

 

[arctic_flame]

Integrated Graphics = No OSx86. That answers your question, I hope.

 

[matriculated]

Macs do not do better at graphic design than PCs. Design comes from people heads not the computer. The graphic design industry is mostly pro-Apple because Apple was there first. It's just silly bigotry on the industries part - especially since, aside from fonts, all the application files are interchangeable. If you need to run Windows and do graphic design it's 100% viable. The only problems you may run into is with fonts.

That said, OSX is a great operating system. I just bought a Macbook 2 weeks ago and it's really a breath of fresh air. No need to run virus scanners and spyware detectors. It really take getting used to for people that are new to it. I've been using Mac's at work since the late 80's so it's been ok for me but my wife is struggling a bit.

 

[nando]

Macs do not do better at graphic design than PCs. Design comes from people heads not the computer. The graphic design industry is mostly pro-Apple because Apple was there first. It's just silly bigotry on the industries part - especially since, aside from fonts, all the application files are interchangeable. If you need to run Windows and do graphic design it's 100% viable. The only problems you may run into is with fonts.

That said, OSX is a great operating system. I just bought a Macbook 2 weeks ago and it's really a breath of fresh air. No need to run virus scanners and spyware detectors. It really take getting used to for people that are new to it. I've been using Mac's at work since the late 80's so it's been ok for me but my wife is struggling a bit.

yes is true macs don't do better at graphic design but a reason macs became a standard for graphic design is their display consistency. yes a windows laptop can outdo macbooks in screen resolution and contrast ratio but macs display colors accurately and consistently with all their computers so files sent to office A looks exactly the same as files sent to office B. (with that note, stay away from samsung monitors).

plus if you are a designer, your living is dependent on convincing clients that "design matters" and preaching that word while working on a plastic windows computer is just hypocritical.

 

[acky]

OSx86 on a laptop is probably not a good idea because you're not going to have the right hardware.

 

[matriculated]

yes is true macs don't do better at graphic design but a reason macs became a standard for graphic design is their display consistency. yes a windows laptop can outdo macbooks in screen resolution and contrast ratio but macs display colors accurately and consistently with all their computers so files sent to office A looks exactly the same as files sent to office B. (with that note, stay away from samsung monitors).

plus if you are a designer, your living is dependent on convincing clients that "design matters" and preaching that word while working on a plastic windows computer is just hypocritical.


Bah! Color calibration has always been a crapshoot. I've been in the industry for almost 20 years - believe me.

Besides, any good quality monitor will let you calibrate so that colors are consistent from screen to print. Viewsonic was a leader in this area.

Plus, there are lots of nice cases that you can buy for PCs. It's a common misconception that design is just about making things look good - I know lots of designer who think so and they are wrong. Form always follows function.

OSx86 on a laptop is probably not a good idea because you're not going to have the right hardware.

There are plenty of laptops that can run OSX. Just look at the compatibilty list on Insanelymac.

 

[FrEEz902]

Hmm... *scratches out Hackintosh from the list*. Oh well, i'll wait till Macworld, and see if they release a tabletMacbook

IF they don't, then maybe I'll just get the lifebook, and hopefully it won't change much. So are you saying that there is absolutely *NO DIFFERENCE* between Macs and PCs in terms of graphics desigining/apps, only that i'll have a small problem with some fonts??? Because if so, then bye-bye Mac, Hello Lifebook

. However it has vista ._., which asks you 'are you sure' 10 times whenever you click something. It could *NOT* be more annoying ._. Using a Mac would be interesting though, should be fun trying a new, virus-free OS.

 

[FrEEz902]

yes is true macs don't do better at graphic design but a reason macs became a standard for graphic design is their display consistency. yes a windows laptop can outdo macbooks in screen resolution and contrast ratio but macs display colors accurately and consistently with all their computers so files sent to office A looks exactly the same as files sent to office B. (with that note, stay away from samsung monitors).

plus if you are a designer, your living is dependent on convincing clients that "design matters" and preaching that word while working on a plastic windows computer is just hypocritical.


Bah! Color calibration has always been a crapshoot. I've been in the industry for almost 20 years - believe me.

Besides, any good quality monitor will let you calibrate so that colors are consistent from screen to print. Viewsonic was a leader in this area.

Plus, there are lots of nice cases that you can buy for PCs. It's a common misconception that design is just about making things look good - I know lots of designer who think so and they are wrong. Form always follows function.

OSx86 on a laptop is probably not a good idea because you're not going to have the right hardware.

There are plenty of laptops that can run OSX. Just look at the compatibilty list on Insanelymac.

Let me get this straight here:

1. I *DO NOT* want an apple desktop. If i have to get apple, i would much prefer that it be mobile. Getting an apple desktop is sort of a last resort.
2. I want to emulate it on a TABLET PC, not a normal laptop.

 

[matriculated]

Hmm... *scratches out Hackintosh from the list*. Oh well, i'll wait till Macworld, and see if they release a tabletMacbook

IF they don't, then maybe I'll just get the lifebook, and hopefully it won't change much. So are you saying that there is absolutely *NO DIFFERENCE* between Macs and PCs in terms of graphics desigining/apps, only that i'll have a small problem with some fonts??? Because if so, then bye-bye Mac, Hello Lifebook

. However it has vista ._., which asks you 'are you sure' 10 times whenever you click something. It could *NOT* be more annoying ._. Using a Mac would be interesting though, should be fun trying a new, virus-free OS.

There is no difference - unless you use Linux

There's plenty of award winning agencies in my town that use PCs. Until recently, I designed on Macs at work and on PCs at home. Like I said - design comes from the brain not from your computer. Look at the Penny Arcade guys: They worked exclusively on PCs until Apple switched to Intel. They were popular when they worked on PCs and they're just as popular now that they work on Macs. The artist worked on a Tablet PC - I'm not totally sure but I think he now works on a Mac with a drawing tablet - maybe even a Cintiq.

 

[rcxAsh]

Thanks for that rant o.O. But how could i save money if a buy an external Wacom :S? I'm getting a notebook either way, and a decent Wacom which i would be comfortable using would cost at least $500 Add that to the price of the macbook, or decent laptop=$2300+ .The tablet i want to get would cost about $2000, so :/...

Ah, you know what, that could be true. I probably still have the prices from 2004/2005 for Tablet PCs still stuck in my head.

I was thinking if you got a MacBook for say $1500 - $1600, and then a Wacom tablet for $500, that would bring it around to $2000 - $2100.

The Fujitsu Lifebook T4010 cost around $2400 around that time. (T4010 is the predecessor to the T4220; it's actually what I'm using right now to write this post).

 

[Salamantis]

I'd wait, Apple might be releasing a tablet in MacWorld 2008.