Learning Japanese - The Nihongo FAQ

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  1. Issac

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    Oh yeah, you are so right! Let me screenshot this....
    When you choose the Japanese input as usual, the "ENG" should be changed to a "J" right? To the left, there should be either an "A" or an "あ". Right click that and you'll see the below pop up.
    Go to Input Method and chose "Romaji Input" and it should work like it used to :)

    kana.PNG
     
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    I'll do that, thank you ^_^
     
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    Let me know if that solved your issues :)
     
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    I ran the installer, it downloaded it, but I don't notice anything different in the language bar? What did I do wrong? :(


    Edit: @Issac I am so sorry, PEBKAC error, it works now :P Thank you!
     
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    すごいね!

    Random tip of the day: The kana table. I used to forget all the kana when trying to write them all down from memory. Not the actual kana themselves, but for example, every t-based ones. "ta chi tsu te to".
    Also, when looking up stuff in a dictionary for example, when it's "alphabetically sorted", it uses the order of the kana table as well. How do you remember it then?
    I go through the A row completely, and imagine it as a name.
    Akasata Nahamaya (followed by the fun little word: RAWAN!)
    So again:

    Akasata Nahamaya Rawan

    あかさた なはまや らわん

    And from there, you just have the rest:
    あかさたなはまやらわん
    いきしちにひみ り
    うくすつぬふむゆる
    えけせてねへめ れ
    おこそとのほもよろを

    (in other words:
    Akasata Nahamaya Rawan
    Ikishichi Nihimi Ri
    Ukusutsu Nufumuyu Ru
    Ekesete Neheme Re
    Okosoto Nohomoyo Ro(w)o
    )
     
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  6. Xexyz

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    I passed 2000 kanji :grog:
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    もう少しだけ!!
     
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    Dear god. Why not simply remember it like Japanese kids do?
    A I U E O
    KA KI KU KE KO
    SA SHI SU SE SO etc?

    I mean if it works for you thats wonderful, but when I was reading through that it felt like a shitstorm in my brains :D
     
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    According to what I remember having learned from my teachers the first sentence Issac used is actually commonly used by Japanese kids to remember the order (あかさたなはまやらわん). The following sentences however are not needed as it's as simple as continuing from the starting sound of whatever comes in the first sentence (with something that starts with n for an example that would be なにぬねの).

    (I use the word sentence very losely here, it's actually just a string of sounds).
     
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    Yeah, I just added the extra sentences for completeness sake, they're useless.
     
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    What deck do you use?

    And I seem to have problems using Anki, it doesn't ever seem roe remember the timing.
     
  11. Xexyz

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    I use this deck together with this book.
     
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    do you need the book? (english only? well not a problem for me)
    how is working Anki? it's memorizing your results and asking again the one you don't remember well ?
    Lessons are sorted by jouyou level?

    Do you have to write something to answer or pick from a list?
    I've looked for screenshot, apparently you decide how good you are yourself.


    How long did you need to learn 2000 kanji ?
    it only contains single kanji, or it teaches you words with multiple kanji too?

    nice to see free programs and people sharing their files :)

    Do you learn on computer or phone/android? (I don't have a smartphone yet, but it might be useful to learn kanji)

    edit:
    a comment on amazon says "The only downside is the source - "The Kodansha Kanji Learner's Dictionary: Revised and Expanded" which doesn't teach you the type of the words - if it's a noun, verb or adjective."
    you had issues learning the meaning because of that?
     
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    I'll let Xexyz reply properly to most of the questions, but I have to say that Anki doesn't work for me at all. I'm not good at judging myself if I'm correct without any sort of input. (and I have an issue with the name of the software).

    I'm using https://www.wanikani.com/ myself, which is basically the same but more limited and "hand holding". They decide the order you learn everything, instead of you deciding all for yourself. So "more structured" is both a pro and con, depending on your own taste.
    wanikani is only free for the first three levels though (but it's still enough to let you see if it's for you or not), after that it's a subscription service. That's nothing I'm a fan of, but oh well. I just thought I'd share that.
     
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    Unfortunately, I think it's English only. You'd need the book as it has more information than the Anki deck tells you.
    And basically, Anki is a flashcard program where, like you said, judge yourself how good you did. The better you do on a flashcard, the longer the time will be the next time you see the card. So I keep getting a kanji wrong, it would show it to me until I get it.There are 2 types of flashcards in the deck. Production where it is English -> Japanese, and the other is Japanese -> English.
    Nope, they're sorted by similar readings and parts. Like 験検険 etc..
    What I do is if I can picture the kanji or write it correctly, I mark the flashcard as good.

    I think I started around February or March, I don't remember exactly. This book teaches vocabulary alongside kanji you already know. So let's say you already passed 日, and now you're learning the kanji 本. On the vocab section, it would list 日本.
     
  15. Cyan

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    Thanks.

    So, 2000 in less than a year is good.
    can you read books or newspaper now?

    I only know few words, and maybe 20 or 30 kanji.
    I never learned seriously, and just remember things from time to time.
    I don't know if it would help having flashcards for kanji, without studying the grammar and vocabulary. that's probably the book's purpose.
     
  16. Xexyz

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    I can read books, but I still have to look up some words. So even if I know 2000+ kanji, I still encounter new compounds every day.
     
  17. Cyan

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    I still encounter new english words too :P
    But with context, I get an idea of the meaning. That's how I learned most of the words. school didn't teach me a lot.

    secret to learning new language : practicing, and practicing !
     
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  18. Xexyz

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    I completed the Kanji Leaner's Course book today. :grog:While using the book and reading visual novels, here's how my kanji count ended up in Anki
    [​IMG]
     
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    I can only read hiragana, katakana, and some basic kanji.

    Should I actually continue with japanese or ditch it completely?
     
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    Depends on what you want.
    Also, many people doesn't bother with kanji until they learn some more grammar and vocabulary (kana)
     
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    I feel like the J-CAT is telling to read more :thinking:
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