iSMM now available

[Mbmax]

I wish to see a sdk for this flashcart. May god listen to me.

 

[Hyborix3]

The iSmart MM theme looks plain so I'd rather go with the DS2

 

[Gariscus]

The iSmart MM theme looks plain so I'd rather go with the DS2

Just because the theme plain you'll go with the DSTWO?

That's just...

 

[Hyborix3]

The iSmart MM theme looks plain so I'd rather go with the DS2

Just because the theme plain you'll go with the DSTWO?

That's just...

Let's face it, the iSmart MM is the same price as the DS2.

Oh and yeah I saw the cheap iSmart that cost like 3 bucks different than the DS2

So basically buying the DS2 with better theme isn't such a bad idea

 

[Gariscus]

The iSmart MM theme looks plain so I'd rather go with the DS2

Just because the theme plain you'll go with the DSTWO?

That's just...

Let's face it, the iSmart MM is the same price as the DS2.

Oh and yeah I saw the cheap iSmart that cost like 3 bucks different than the DS2

So basically buying the DS2 with better theme isn't such a bad idea

From your post it seemed that the sole reason you'd buy a DSTWO over an iSMM is the default theme. Which would make no sense. You could make your own theme instead or perhaps(since they both have a similar menu) you could use the default DSTWO theme on the iSMM.

 

[Hyborix3]

The iSmart MM theme looks plain so I'd rather go with the DS2

Just because the theme plain you'll go with the DSTWO?

That's just...

Let's face it, the iSmart MM is the same price as the DS2.

Oh and yeah I saw the cheap iSmart that cost like 3 bucks different than the DS2

So basically buying the DS2 with better theme isn't such a bad idea

From your post it seemed that the sole reason you'd buy a DSTWO over an iSMM is the default theme. Which would make no sense. You could make your own theme instead or perhaps(since they both have a similar menu) you could use the default DSTWO theme on the iSMM.

Oh I didn't know that. Anyway, naw I got my heart set on buying the DS2 maybe next time I guess.

 

[Varia]

you would be really surprised to find out who coded the menu then. you wouldn't have made that comment if you had access to real information not handed down on random web sites (including some gbatemp posts which are incorrect).

Weren't you the one who said something like that the iSmart Premium's issues were all software based, and not to think of it as a failure, as they're learning from their mistakes?
It's true that I don't know who coded the menu and everything, but I'm pretty sure most of the team is quite new to coding and software developing...

thankfully many of us do not share your limited views. homebrew will always have a place as long as people have the systems to play with. i'm happy that there are still people who do not judge a system based on availability of pirated roms to play with. as long as this card is supported and the sdk is released there will be people who will have an interest in supporting it. i've already spoken to some developers who are interested in porting exclusive homebrew to the ismart mm, depending on how well written the sdk is.

What I meant was that
1. Because they're new, they don't have the proper support.
2. They do not have the trust of the consumers, especially after their 1st card wasn't so good.
3. Most people already own a flashcart, and wouldn't want to waste more money on a new one - though I guess the same could be said to any flashcart.

That's why it was a mistake to launch a flashcart so late in the systems life...

Just to make it clear though - I DO NOT judge a system by the availability to pirate on it.
I still have 15 original DS games, which I'm happy with them, and I have 20 GBA carts.
I plan to get the 3DS at launch too, I couldn't care less whether it's hacked or not.

QUOTE(Another World @ Nov 20 2010, 01:38 AM)

the problems with ismart cards has not been the hardware but the software. it will remain to be seen if they can continue support of their products. the team members i have talked to are very nice and have a vested interest in this hobby. it isn't right to make assumptions on this card for the first 6 months of its life.

Just like I said before:
"Not trying to bash the iSmart MM, I know the iSmart team is new and all and they do deserve a chance, but I just don't think people would buy it over the SC2..."

Actually, that was the main point of my post - that people would prefer to buy the SC2 over the iSmart MM...

 

[enarky]

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

I don't mean to be rude, but with the amount of blatant copying going on in the history of flash carts I have a very hard time believing that this is an original cartridge and worth investing in, especially if its hardware is based on the iPlayer.

 

[RoMee]

the ismart mm has a slower cpu more like the iplayer. cpu to card to slot1 already has a 50% data throughput loss, the slower cpu will probably impact what possible cpu based homebrew can be developed.

After reading this, it's a -1 for me..sorry mbmax

but I'm still gonna wait until the review to really judge it

 

[Etalon]

? I'm confused now.

I thought the iPlayer MM has 32 MB like the DSTwo.

But now you're saying - - the iPlayer is exactly the same as the iPlayer (?) - 16 MB?

 

[Gariscus]

? I'm confused now.

I thought the iPlayer MM has 32 MB like the DSTwo.

But now you're saying - - the iPlayer is exactly the same as the iPlayer (?) - 16 MB?

The iSmart MM has 32MB RAM.

 

[Etalon]

The iSmart MM has 32MB RAM.

Thanks for clearing this up!

 

[Another World]

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

I don't mean to be rude, but with the amount of blatant copying going on in the history of flash carts I have a very hard time believing that this is an original cartridge and worth investing in, especially if its hardware is based on the iPlayer.

you have to understand that they have a business plan which is very simple... buy an oem design, get the oem company to produce the first menu, and then offer an sdk and try to find 3rd party support (much like akaio). there is little risk on their part except for the first investment for the hardware. to be perfectly honest, i think they are going about it the right way, especially considering the late stage of ds software releases.

the design is not copied, reverse engineered, cloned, etc. it is a purchased design that another team already spent money developing.

as for the hardware, its pretty good and build well from what i've read. my review sample has just been posted and i should have it within the week. after that i'll do a hands-on impressions post. until that time i can't really comment on the card. i do know the cpu is slower than the ds2, which could impact homebrew because of the data loss which has been experienced from cpu to ds2 to slot-1. i've talked to a few developers who have confirmed (based on their testing) that there is about a 50% data throughput loss. now consider that with a slower cpu, that could possibly impact development.

still, i have high hopes for this card. if a gba emu can be produced for it what is to stop other retro emus with much lower specs from being developed. however, i do fully understand that not everyone enjoys the systems i grew up on. some users may be hoping for a scds2 killer and to be honest i don't see that this card is it. i think this is more of a super ds2 alternative with great potential.

-another world

 

[Mbmax]

? I'm confused now.

I thought the iPlayer MM has 32 MB like the DSTwo.

But now you're saying - - the iPlayer is exactly the same as the iPlayer (?) - 16 MB?

There is 32MB of RAM on the iSMM (Zentel A3V56S40ETP). It was confirmed by Xenon++ and Alfadir when they received their sample last month.
Only my very first iSMM got 16MB (Winbond W9825G6EH). I consider it like a prototype.

Edit : Wait. I never checked the PN at Winbond website because i always thought the iPlayer got only 16MB of RAM.
It's just me or the Winbond W9825G6EH is a 256mb (32MB) memory ?

 

[Alfadir]

Supercard or to be more precise romman must be linked to this new flash cart.
Romman had create the iPlayer, the iSmartMM have the hardware of the iPlayer.
Romman is a member of Supercard team and he is known as the inventor of the supercard slot2 flash carts.

Mbmax had made a test for video player on iSmartMM and i have made the same on DSTwo.

As you can see is almost the same result.

I have also made some test for HB compatility of the ismartMM and for that it's exactly the same result that the one of DSTwo (and it's better than the iPlayer compatibility test because iPlayer don't launch HB larger than 4MB).

iPlayer CPU is slower than the DSTwo one and iSmartMM seems to be the exact clone of an iPlayer.

To confirm that, Mbmax had also made a test for the battery life.
And as expected the battery life is longer with the iSmartMM than with the DSTwo (slower CPU, lower consumption).

 

[Mbmax]

Wait. I never checked the PN at Winbond website because i always thought the iPlayer got only 16MB of RAM.
It's just me or the Winbond W9825G6EH is a 256mb (32MB) memory ?

To answer myself to this question, the iPlayer got also 32MB of SDRAM.

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