Is Sharing Illegal ?

[Pluupy]

How was it "shared"? Was it a torrent that you seeded?

I'd get a VPN, honestly. I personally use private trackers, because most of the good public ones have gone down anyway, but a VPN is cheap and lets you do whatever you want.

Some VPNs cost $6 for 6 months. I think you can sacrifice an afternoon meal of a small-sized burger meal for six months of carefree plunder.

 

[linuxares]

How was it "shared"? Was it a torrent that you seeded?

I'd get a VPN, honestly. I personally use private trackers, because most of the good public ones have gone down anyway, but a VPN is cheap and lets you do whatever you want.

Some VPNs cost $6 for 6 months. I think you can sacrifice an afternoon meal of a small-sized burger meal for six months of carefree plunder.

Or just go oldschool... Pretty darn safe and heck of a lot faster.

 

[Pluupy]

Or just go oldschool... Pretty darn safe and heck of a lot faster.

Um... you mean like ...literally stealing DVDs from stores? lol

What do you mean "old school"?

 

[Deleted User]

Have you seen what happened to my virginity?

I think I found it somewhere in the basement.

 

[linuxares]

Um... you mean like ...literally stealing DVDs from stores? lol

What do you mean "old school"?

Newsgroups

 

[AI-BOT-T1000-and-1]

Or just go oldschool... Pretty darn safe and heck of a lot faster.

by going old school do you mean actually handing, them to your mates for a week and then expecting them back ?

 

[linuxares]

by going old school do you mean actually handing, them to your mates for a week and then expecting them back ?

Even older than that. Closer to BBS, then again that would be IRC.

 

[AI-BOT-T1000-and-1]

Even older than that. Closer to BBS, then again that would be IRC.

Still quite popular in Taiwan I believe I watched a whole documentary about it haha, still don't know much about it. except that Taiwans are hardcore BBS users until this day.

Yes, sharing is illegal. In most places, when it comes to piracy, it's the sharing that's the larger offence.

Downloading isn't always super serious, but uploading is. The uploader causes more damage than the downloader.

But Sharing in its purest sense is not Illegal though is it.
To make sharing Illegal is quite a ridiculous thing to do.
If a dispute arises because of a sharing issue then it is still a civil matter.
I don't see how that is any different here.
You don't go to criminal court do you, except on the very rare occasion they want to make an example out of you.
Even if its copyrighted its still a civil dispute between you and a private company, no criminal investigation will take place as its not a criminal matter.

 

[Armadillo]

There's no consequence to getting one of those get it right letters. The campaign is just for "education". You get a letter asking you not to and that's it. If I got one, I'd just ignore it.

I use a vpn anyway, due to the whole of the UK being under Theresa May's watchful eye with the stupid snoopers charter anyway.

 

[Issac]

But Sharing in its purest sense is not Illegal though is it.
To make sharing Illegal is quite a ridiculous thing to do.
If a dispute arises because of a sharing issue then it is still a civil matter.
I don't see how that is any different here.
You don't go to criminal court do you, except on the very rare occasion they want to make an example out of you.
Even if its copyrighted its still a civil dispute between you and a private company, no criminal investigation will take place as its not a criminal matter.

No, of course sharing in its purest sense isn't illegal. Sharing pirated copyrighted content is illegal. Court or not, doesn't matter in the fact.
You don't go to court, nor is a criminal investigation taking place when you drive above the speed limit. You still get fined, and it's still illegal.

 

[dAVID_]

Just say what the co-funder of The Pirate Bay said:
''It's freedom of speech''.

 

[evandixon]

Just say what the co-funder of The Pirate Bay said:
''It's freedom of speech''.

With freedom of speech, you are free to speak your mind, not steal the words of others despite them telling you specifically not to.

("Steal" in this context is a metaphore; I'm not trying to compare piracy to stealing since that's a complicated subject.)

 

[Joom]

I always loved this analogy: "What if your car was stolen but it was still in your driveway the next morning. Would you be mad and report it to the police?" That's kinda how I view piracy, or "sharing", because the laws against it are absolutely ridiculous as sales aren't actually hindered to the proportion that coorporations portray them to be.

Peerblock

No. Just, no. Peerblock blankets entirely too many good peers as it blindly uses wildcards on IP ranges. Using community driven blocklists is a much better route to take (I recommend this one). If your client doesn't support using lists like this then you should get one like Transmission or Deluge. Also, investing in a cheap VPS and running your own private VPN on it is a much better idea than renting one from a third party.

With freedom of speech, you are free to speak your mind, not steal the words of others despite them telling you specifically not to.

That would be plagiarism, which piracy is not unless the one purveying pirated content is using it for monetization purposes. This wouldn't apply to those using pirated material itself to create original works. Like using a pirated copy of Photoshop or FL Studio.

 

[Townsperson]

I always loved this analogy: "What if your car was stolen but it was still in your driveway the next morning. Would you be mad and report it to the police?" That's kinda how I view piracy, or "sharing", because the laws against it are absolutely ridiculous as sales aren't actually hindered to the proportion that coorporations portray them to be.

That's a terrible analogy, that has literally nothing to do with piracy. Piracy doesn't affect a consumer. You didn't spend time and money designing that car, nor did you set up the manufacturing plants to make it. You wouldn't care if one was magically created for someone else, but the company that spent years designing it sure as hell will.

 

[Joom]

That's a terrible analogy, that has literally nothing to do with piracy. Piracy doesn't affect a consumer. You didn't spend time and money designing that car, nor did you set up the manufacturing plants to make it. You wouldn't care if one was magically created for someone else, but the company that spent years designing it sure as hell will.

You obviously failed to perceive the analogy. As a consumer you spend thousands of dollars on said car, and often times either lease it or go into great amounts of debt over it. A company that designed and manufactured the car isn't affected by one being stolen since it is sold to a consumer, and obviously not directly stolen from them. It's a perfect analogy seeing as music, movies, and software are sold to a consumer before they are made available for pirates. Yes, even those that crack software must buy the software they are cracking before they release a crack. Even if they use a third party supplier, said supplier must buy a copy seeing as everything purveyed now is totally digital. You might wanna reconsider how much logic you have going on in your head.

 

[Townsperson]

You obviously failed to perceive the analogy. As a consumer you spend thousands of dollars on said car, and often times either lease it or go into great amounts of debt over it. A company that designed and manufactured the car isn't affected by one being stolen since it is sold to a consumer, and obviously not directly stolen from them. It's a perfect analogy seeing as music, movies, and software are sold to a consumer before they are made available for pirates. Yes, even those that crack software must buy the software they are cracking before they release a crack. Even if they use a third party supplier, said supplier must buy a copy seeing as everything purveyed now is totally digital. You might wanna reconsider how much logic you have going on in your head.

Pretty sure you don't actually grasp this. A company doesn't care about a stolen item. That's true. It was already sold, and they don't care anymore.

They do, however, care if that theft resulted in an additional quantity of that item existing. The reason piracy and theft differ is because theft means the person who lost the item no longer has it. Piracy results in additional copies of an item. Additional copies means the original creator of that product just lost out on additional sales because some random person on the internet decided to "share" something they bought.

A company could care less what you do with your unique copy of a product after they sell it to you. Sell it. Burn it. Give it away. But if you create additional copies of that product, you're cutting that company out of X amount of sales.

You're caught up in the fact that someone, somewhere, purchased something legitimately. But one person buying something shouldn't mean everyone else on the planet gets to have that thing for free.

 

[froggestspirit]

Sharing=Illegal
Sharing=Caring
Caring=Illegal

 

[Joom]

The reason piracy and theft differ is because theft means the person who lost the item no longer has it.

Thank you for validating my point.

 

[DinohScene]

Piracy is illegal.
Sharing ANY copyrighted software is illegal.

The only way you can legitimately have a backup is that you've made it yourself and have the original still in your possession.
If you no longer got the original in your possession then you must destroy the backup copy as well.

 

[Lacius]

I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned, but you're basically asking to get these kinds of notices if you're downloading HBO shows via public torrents, especially if you're seeding. HBO and the people working for them are notorious for monitoring public torrents.

Get a VPN or find another means of downloading HBO shows.