Is it all coming to a end?

[Awdofgum]

will they be able to track down the people that bought the items?

This only affects the manufacturer, not the retailers.

 

[DeMoN]

Yes it is all coming to an end. Nintendo will send suicide bombers to blow up all flash card manufacturing plants. They will capture and execute Team R4, Team Cyclops, Team Acekard, all the other flash card teams and the ROM dumping groups. Then they will hire professional assassins to murder everyone who owns a flash card, including all of us.

 

[MR_COW]

Piracy will never end. It's impossible to stop.

 

[alex]

Oh no! I need to get a cart fast!!!! Is the Supercard DS-One any good?

 

[Eternal Myst]

Nintendo Sues Piracy-Enabling R4 Cart, R4 Sales Predictably Skyrocket

Yesterday, Kotaku reported on Nintendo and 54 software makers filing an injunction to stop the sales of the R4 and similar devices in Japan. For the uninitiated, the R4 allows you to download DS games online and play them on your DS. Yes, DS piracy. And now said piracy is threatened! So what does that mean? R4 sales are through the roof. Hell, even I bought one yesterday.

Source:http://gizmodo.com/5031048/nintendo-sues-p...tably-skyrocket

Why is it always the R4?

 

[Sir-Fritz]

Because We all know that those without an r4 arent worthy to have such a godly product.

 

[DeMoN]

Nintendo Sues Piracy-Enabling R4 Cart, R4 Sales Predictably Skyrocket

Yesterday, Kotaku reported on Nintendo and 54 software makers filing an injunction to stop the sales of the R4 and similar devices in Japan. For the uninitiated, the R4 allows you to download DS games online and play them on your DS. Yes, DS piracy. And now said piracy is threatened! So what does that mean? R4 sales are through the roof. Hell, even I bought one yesterday.

Source:http://gizmodo.com/5031048/nintendo-sues-p...tably-skyrocket

Why is it always the R4?

The R4 is most synonymous with "DS flash card," seeing as it's the most popular and one of the first to boast 100% compatibility and MicroSD usage.

 

[dark42]

They're not losing much money over flash cards, they're basically printing money with the DS. Sounds like Nintendo's getting greedy!

IANAL, but I'm surprised it is legal for Nintendo to do what they're doing. Flashcards are kind of like BitTorrent (or all P2P for that matter). They have legal uses (homebrew and media playback), now whether or not the consumer uses the flashcard for piracy should not be the manufacturer's responsibility (although they know perfectly well that they make most of their money from sales to pirates.) If BitTorrent is hurting the movie industry so bad, why isn't Bram Cohen in jail?

Although flashcards contain code to bypass the RSA sigcheck (or something like that) in the DS, so that makes them illegal in the US (and Flashme for that matter) under the DMCA. Ninty might be able to use that in court in the US. Realhotstuff, it's been nice shopping from you.

 

[Gman 101]

I hope Nintendy loses all their money here in Australia. I've ranted enough about high prices here and I don't think Nintendo really cares... even if we have a small population, we don't care 'cos it's almost parity with the US dollar and Americans are paying half our prices! Piracy is definitely a legitimate way for us Aussies, until Nintendo starts making us on par with the rest of the world.

 

[enarky]

I'll quote myself from here instead of replying:

To get a bit of reason into this discussion: you people are aware that Nintendo goes after video game copier/flash cart producers every now and then at least since the early 1990s?

Read this letter from Nintendo for a laugh. It's from 1992, the oldest one I could find. It clearly shows that they know a little bit more about this stuff then one could imagine after reading the first post in this thread.

Really, things like this happened every few months in the past few years, I'm amazed at how agitated you people can get every time.

Does "cat and mouse game" mean anything to you? This is definitely not the end of the world.

And now move along, nothing to see here...

 

[Doggy124]

Fair Well R4....Their site is gone.

 

[Gore]

Fair Well R4....Their site is gone.

Only partially.
http://www.r4ds.cn/download/r4.html

 

[Searinox]

Coming to an end my ass. =\

The copyright concept needs to be reinvented, with an emphasis on sharing of information. Nintendo and any other company which has ever had to deal with intellectual property theft are fighting something too wide-spread whilst the people will keep on considering the copy and distribution of information an act so basic that they literally take it as a right granted by nature.

Yes there may come a time when things will be more difficult for flashcarts, and we will probably see a few stores shut down stopped from selling them, MAYBE get sued, and JUUUST MAYBEEE shutdown temporarily, but I doubt we will ever see the day when we'll want to buy a decent flashcart and there either won't be one online store in sight to buy from, or find out that their order was confiscated upon entering the country by postal customs.

As for Nintendo, they're about as n00b as the n00bs who keep recommending R4s. They're ravaging a deprecated, declining product like rotworms on a corpse. I doubt that is any sign of the flashcart world coming to an end. =\

 

[Panzer Tacticer]

Nintendo profits up 34%

Oh they're suffering alright

R4 = Kleenex

Hey someone had to be given the privilege. The rest will just have to settle for being labeled "tissues".

 

[ndpndnt16]

next Nintendo ds might be having built in memory so just download online!!!lol and you need to pay to play

CURSE YOU NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!YOU GOT FAMOUS BECAUSE OF R4 REVOLUTION AKA R4 GENERATION

 

[ImpulsE69]

There is no reason to get worked up. This has been going on since before many of you were born. The main difference now are the new electronic laws that were put in place in the USA. Now, those laws really don't apply to anyone outside the US, however companies are beginning to use these laws by strectching the their sphere of influence with the local governments. While I doubt it will get as bad as the satillite hacking gear raids ( yes, I know many people that recieved letters over those), it is quite possible that if Nintendo wanted to, they could sieze sales records and go after the end user. It would take quite a bit of moola to accomplish this.

The thing is, every company puts out "trumped up numbers" of losses due to pirating, and this is what is presented to the government. No company has ever had to PROVE that they lost these amounts. There is no way they could, it's purely an educated guess based on what they think they SHOULD have made based on how many systems are sold and their "idea" of how many games the average user buys. They never account it to the fact that the games just suck and no one would have bought them anyway. They are simply protecting their investment, which is in their right. And I'm sorry...but the R4 did NOT make the DS popular. I don't think anyone truely knows the true ratio of people who use flashcarts vs. who actually owns systems (or mods vs systems in general).

Ok...this post was too long....done.

 

[Cermage]

I hope Nintendy loses all their money here in Australia. I've ranted enough about high prices here and I don't think Nintendo really cares... even if we have a small population, we don't care 'cos it's almost parity with the US dollar and Americans are paying half our prices! Piracy is definitely a legitimate way for us Aussies, until Nintendo starts making us on par with the rest of the world.

exactly. we are paying double if not more for any type of video games when compared to the US. and around 25% more on consoles as well.

 

[roses_108]

Interesting, I think this will be interesting to see how it ends up. Either way I don't mind, I'll just buy my DS games legally I'm in NZ though and because I have a wii too I need to dish out quite a bit of money to get wii games(I have easily spend over 2-3grand on my wii and gamecube stuff) FYI I have 28 games in all. So the flash card helps me get more wii stuff cos I don't have to pay for DS games unless I don't wanna.

 

[Rayder]

When Ninty prevents me from clicking the mouse button a few times to get what I want, then I'll worry. Until then, meh.

I just ordered new slot1 and slot2 flashcarts (CycloDS & M3 Perfect).

 

[WB3000]

Fair Well R4....Their site is gone.

Only partially.
http://www.r4ds.cn/download/r4.html

Hmm, so basically they took down their index pages.