Hacking Instinct v6s VS Rp2040

[BinaryGuild25]

Hello, I'm new here and I found a seller than can install both the Instinct v6s and Rp2040 with just a $10 difference, what you think is better?
(I have an oled switch)

Thank You

 

[alecocr20]

Hello,
If it's an actual rp2040 zero and hard wired, I would prefer this solution because of the open source software. If it's a rp2040 based chip from Ali, I would go with the instinct. Overall quality is better, flexes have way better tolerances.

That all solutions will work fine if you have a good tech, one thing I would look for, is to use the kamikaze DAT0 solution, long term is the way to go

 

[BinaryGuild25]

Thank you for your reply,
yes they are gonna use the kamikaze being an OLED model, the software is the same in both the card? there is no difference? (sorry I'm new in this world)

 

[alecocr20]

The oled also has a Dat0 adapter solution. Instinct uses a closed software solution and the RP2040 is an open source solution that you can find on GitHub. I prefer the open source but it's more of a preference than anything else.

 

[BinaryGuild25]

ok so they have you different software or they both has atmosphere os?

 

[EricSonicBoom16]

Hello, I'm new here and I found a seller than can install both the Instinct v6s and Rp2040 with just a $10 difference, what you think is better?
(I have an oled switch)

Thank You

I am shopping on etsy for this service lol currently and am about to place an order but was wondering what's the difference between rp2040 and d instinct on my oled and yes there's a $10 difference so we're on the same page bro

 

[BinaryGuild25]

I am shopping on etsy for this service lol currently and am about to place an order but was wondering what's the difference between rp2040 and d instinct on my oled and yes there's a $10 difference so we're on the same page bro

ahha yes we are, the seller seems really good, but you need to install the software by your self.

 

[EricSonicBoom16]

ahha yes we are, the seller seems really good, but you need to install the software by your self.

Yeah i have experience with the software unfortunately my v1 switch stopped booting all it shows the first Nintendo logo and goes black forever i tried replacing the battery still same result so here I am with a brand new oled tryna mod it

 

[deeps]

ok so they have you different software or they both has atmosphere os?

atmosphere has nothing to do with the chip. the only thing the modchip does is launch whatever is stored in payload.bin on the sd card when the switch starts up. the modder might sell you an sd card prepared with hekate and atmosphere though.

 

[BinaryGuild25]

atmosphere has nothing to do with the chip. the only thing the modchip does is launch whatever is stored in payload.bin on the sd card when the switch starts up. the modder might sell you an sd card prepared with hekate and atmosphere though.

thank you, in this case the seller sell only the installation of the mod chip, so the chip are the same under the os part? what you think should be the better chip?

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Yeah i have experience with the software unfortunately my v1 switch stopped booting all it shows the first Nintendo logo and goes black forever i tried replacing the battery still same result so here I am with a brand new oled tryna mod it

ah that is really bad, but this seller seems really good, also the price is good to right?

 

[deeps]

thank you, in this case the seller sell only the installation of the mod chip, so the chip are the same under the os part? what you think should be the better chip?

They are the same and perform the exact same job. Like someone else mentioned, the aliexpress rp2040 boards that installers tend to use are low quality and often have problems (like not starting at all, or not booting every time, or preventing ofw from booting). However, those problems will be apparent immediately after installing the chip, which means it's the installer's problem to deal with. I would go with whatever is cheapest. Make sure to verify that ofw boots as expected when picking up the switch.

 

[BinaryGuild25]

They are the same and perform the exact same job. Like someone else mentioned, the aliexpress rp2040 boards that installers tend to use are low quality and often have problems (like not starting at all, or not booting every time, or preventing ofw from booting). However, those problems will be apparent immediately after installing the chip, which means it's the installer's problem to deal with. I would go with whatever is cheapest. Make sure to verify that ofw boots as expected when picking up the switch.

ok thank you so much, lastly do you have any advice/guide to install the software part?

 

[xtrem3x]

Unless you're ordering the chip yourself you're better off going with the instinct because you know what you're getting and it 'just works'.

Closed firmware on the chip vs open firmware on the chip makes no difference because you never need to touch it anyway

 

[randy_w]

It depends on your emmc chip. For samsung emmc they're pretty much the same, very reliable and instant boot every time. For sk hynix and toshiba emmc, picofly is a hit or miss, sometimes they'll have very long boot time, sometimes they won't boot at all, so instinct v6 is a better choice.

 

[deeps]

It depends on your emmc chip. For samsung emmc they're pretty much the same, very reliable and instant boot every time. For sk hynix and toshiba emmc, picofly is a hit or miss, sometimes they'll have very long boot time, sometimes they won't boot at all, so instinct v6 is a better choice.

this simply isn't true. The boot time difference varies for every individual switch and may be long with samsung emmc's too. The only reason for a picofly chip not booting is because it's either garbage quality (like the aliexpress ones) or a bad install job. In both cases, those issues are handled by the installer, so when someone is buying install service that part does not matter.

 

[randy_w]

this simply isn't true. The boot time difference varies for every individual switch and may be long with samsung emmc's too. The only reason for a picofly chip not booting is because it's either garbage quality (like the aliexpress ones) or a bad install job. In both cases, those issues are handled by the installer, so when someone is buying install service that part does not matter.

Wrong, i've done many picofly installs, they all work perfectly fine on samsung emmc and instant boot every time. Only picofly i had issue with is those sx core type with ribbon cable. But on some hynix emmc picofly just won't get consistent boot time, sometimes not booting at all. Swap the instinct v6 chip in and it would boot right up.

Just look it up, many people had and reported issues with picofly and toshiba/hynix emmc. The instinct firmware was reverse engineered when it came out, and it has different timing for different emmc chips.

 

[deeps]

Wrong, i've done many picofly installs, they all work perfectly fine on samsung emmc and instant boot every time. Only picofly i had issue with is those sx core type with ribbon cable. But on some hynix emmc picofly just won't get consistent boot time, sometimes not booting at all. Swap the instinct v6 chip in and it would boot right up.

Just look it up, many people had and reported issues with picofly and toshiba/hynix emmc. The instinct firmware was reverse engineered when it came out, and it has different timing for different emmc chips.

and I've done 100+ picofly installs (with rp2040-zero) as well with zero issues, regardless of emmc brand.

 

[randy_w]

and I've done 100+ picofly installs (with rp2040-zero) as well with zero issues, regardless of emmc brand.

and i've done 100+ picofly installs, had to replace picofly with instinct v6 on about 5 oled with hynix chip. Don't even get me started on toshiba emmc, they're much more tricky than hynix

 

[deeps]

and i've done 100+ picofly installs, had to replace picofly with instinct v6 on about 5 oled with hynix chip. Don't even get me started on toshiba emmc, they're much more tricky than hynix

There are several professional installers in the picofly thread who will swear that 100% of failing picofly installs are because of a bad chip or a bad install job. Your install job (or your chips) are not as good as you think.

 

[randy_w]

There are several professional installers in the picofly thread who will swear that 100% of failing picofly installs are because of a bad chip or a bad install job. Your install job (or your chips) are not as good as you think.

Then explain why every time i switch out the picofly chip with an instinct v6 in a hynix switch it boots up instantly? I don't even need to touch any of the soldering points, just desolder ABCD wires and swap the modchip.

Besides if soldering is the issue then why it's only relevant to sk hynix emmc? Picofly works perfectly fine on all samsung emmc chips i've installed. Sk hynix a hit or miss, and for toshiba don't even bother, had to use instinct or dump the emmc then replace with a samsung every single time. Fortunately 80% oleds I've done have samsung emmc so don't need to do that very often.

I've seen some very bad solderings on switches brought to me for repair or update, cold joints, wires too thick, wires too long, too much exposed wire, too much solder, too little flux, too much flux, bad rosin flux, you name it, most of the time it's just a loose wire, if i solder it back switch boots up just fine, still I'd redo all the wiring on these consoles.

I've done many RGH1/2 installs on xbox 360 in the past and let me tell you switch wiring is much more forgiving. On 360 if the wire is several mm off then the console will refuse to boot, plus every chip/console is different. So i'd know if it's a wiring or soldering issue when I see one.

Don't take my word for it, just search the forum or internet, and see how many people are having issues with picofly and hynix/toshiba emmc.

Only thing i can agree with you is some picofly chips are cheaply made, I've order some samples of sx core type of chips for v2, they'll either refuse to boot or sometimes cause emmc to initialize in slow mode. Changed to hwfly/instinct type of chip and never had any problem, on samsung emmc at least.