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    Yesterday Sony Computer Entertainment Poland published some new screenshots of "inFamous: Second Son" on their Facebook page. Seeing that we don't have a PlayStation 4 section yet, I'm going to post them here, in the USN. Not sure if those have surfaced elsewhere before, but I thought they're well-worth a peek. As you all know, the game is one of PlayStation 4's launch titles. Looks pretty nifty to me! Enjoy!



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    there is a limit on how good the graphics can reach. I think that limit has been crossed.
    nice looking game still. wasn't this game an fps?
     
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    Looks good! I've loved the first two games, hopefully this will be a hit.
     
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    You know, people have been saying that for ages now, and they're wrong every time. I'm sure people will be saying it again when the next generation rolls around.
     
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    Well this has taken time because since crysis 2 till now, I haven't seen a 'leap' in graphics. uncharted 2 and 3 impressed me with their details while assassin's creed with its environment and accuracy.
     
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    To be fair you are comparing it against a device that has remained the same in terms of processing power for years and was built upon 2006 or earlier vintage hardware.

    Environment and accuracy is more a function of game design as well rather than graphics. 2000 saw Deus Ex and a pretty accurate recreation of Liberty Island.
     
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    This looks really nice. Are those in-game graphics, or CG-cutscene graphics?
     
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    I don't like the second son looks. Oh well. I will skip it.
     
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    I'm actually really looking forward to this game.
     
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    Looks to be gameplay, I remember reports saying that the presentation during the PS4 reveal was all in-game graphics and not prerendered as well. Don't quote me on that though.

    inFamous 2 was an excellent game, the first game was pretty mediocre (it can best be described as "fun" but with some pretty bad or boring design decisions at times). Seeing as I don't see them going backwards in terms of design I think Second Son will be pretty damn awesome.
     
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    Cutscene or not, what you're seeing is in-game footage as the engine renders it. The game will actually look better than this since the screenshots have been downscaled from HD down for whatever reason.

    That "limit" is absolute photorealism, and we're nowhere near there yet.
     
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  12. More like worse since downscaling the image removes all artifacts and any aliasing that may present.
     
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    Resizing, be it upwards or downwards has a detrimental effect of image quality. It's not vector-based graphics - it's a screenshot. Scale it down and you (naturally) cut down the pixel count, plus the compression to .png or .jpg introduces artifacts of its own (which can be seen on the pictures).

    That being said, I see what you mean, except it sort of works both ways. ;)
     
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    If I remember correctly, the engine sucker punch made was guessing at how good the ps4 was going to be. They haven't expressed any concerns about porting it to actual ps4 hardware but it is still not running on actual ps4 specs yet. These visuals are probably subject to change but it wouldn't surprise me much if they didn't, either.
     
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    For me, that's what I look for in graphics. Graphics should reflect the real world and point out the more 'taken for granted' things with a wow effect.

    For example, uncharted 2 was quite simple but everything they drew or kept on the screen made sense and could be seen even during an intense battle. From U3, in the bar, you could tell what was on the wall and in the washroom and how everything broke and moved.
    Being crystal clear and sharp is nice but doesn't impress for long like the witcher 2; very high level of detail and texture quality from the grass coloring to the face freckles. It's nice but you can't see it all the time.

    Therefore I haven't seen that leap on any system be it ps3 or pc or whatever. I have seen something like it from watchdogs where the water reflections and dusty roads really bring out the environment.

    Also, originality. When I saw metro last light, wasn't impressed much. It's the same all quality and effects and focus on hq clothing for army personnel. But when I see something like assassin's creed, I see how everything is moving and its a live city. From the animals to the people to the beautiful beautiful weather.

    Then again, everyone has a different angle on graphics.
     
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    People were saying that graphics can't get better than PS3/360.
    Trust me, graphics are going to go way beyond this.
     
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    You can pry the abstract art, cel shading and such like out of the my cold dead hands and you had better also be wary of my going undead afterwards.

    "It's nice but you can't see it all the time."
    Get a bigger screen/better eyes?

    Assassin's creed living cities.... though I do not doubt such things partially troubled the graphics engine at some level that seems to be more of a function of game AI than any one graphics trick.

    "water reflections"
    It depends really, I am somewhat versed in fluid dynamics and light physics so I tend to just the see the massive errors in such things. This is for good reason as both of them are hideously complex to calculate or even fake well (the maths has been around for decades, the supercomputers are just now catching up).

    I do agree most of the graphics advancements of the last few years have happened under the hood and most of the newer ones will probably come from better animations, better AI (which in some ways does depend upon the graphics engines) and
     
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    for me graphics are 'images displayed by a computer'. Be it through AI or quality or calculations... anything can be part of the graphic.
    It's not about having a big screen, I've seen games on the psp that look better than on the wii. It's not because the wii is not powerful or whatnot but its the work put it making full use of the image that is presented to the user.

    Graphics are not always about being 'right'. How many games have blood flying all over the place or parts just dropping off (like prototype 2)? Sometimes its good and sometimes its silly. Take for example prototype 2, I couldn't play it well on my pc at 1080p with the stuttering. However after playing tomb raider, I loved it more and it worked much better due to its beauty and drawings as you mentioned.

    I feel the developers have relied too much on the graphics processors playtime processing (if you get me). Things like tessellation and others that require the LATEST graphics card to process the game although without much seen as the output. For example, metro last light again, what I see is not what I expected. have the devs focus on making better textures and ideas on the players and graphics over having the gpu overworked.


    To me they haven't gone ahead of the ps3 and 360 yet. Of course I'm not versed in the graphics arena so I should be wrong.
     
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    I think you're mixing up graphics and aesthetics.



    An interesting watch on the subject.
     
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    very nice, then again... its how I see a game although it may not be the official/formal understanding of the public. I just putting both words as one. I think aesthetics is better put as artistic value of the graphics as the comments said.

    then again, what would u say environmental effects are? graphics or aesthetics. To me, i believe what he has said in the video is very accurate.

    devs should focus on both and not just graphics. graphic deving can be learnt and implemented but aesthetics is about your exp, skills and ideas put into practice
     
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