Hacking Question I accidentally updated to 5.0 while playing mario

[Unity150_magickavoxel]

Does this mean i would never able to use homebrew on my switch?

 

[punderino]

yes

 

[rac]

how?

 

[Unity150_magickavoxel]

how?

First i restarted the game game for some reason i spammed a then an update menu came up.

 

[blinkzane]

no. nothing is impossible but dont expect work to be done on it anytime soon. stop updating and then asking this question

 

[nero99]

If Team Xecuter releases their modchips, you won't have to worry about homebrew being blocked.

 

[Selim873]

If someone says it's impossible, it usually means that homebrew of any kind, userland or kernel, is pushed back at LEAST a whole year for that FW. Remember, it took several years for the PS3 to get cracked again. I wouldn't expect anything from 5.0.0 onward until at least mid-2019 or later.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

You likely won't get anything anytime remotely soon. Should have been blocking updates like everyone has been saying to do.
At this point I wouldn't hold my breath for anything 5.0.0+ until maybe the end of 2019.
Your best option at this point is if TX actually release their modchip or if the free bootrom exploit does not rely on previous exploits to install.

 

[Onibi]

I agree with the previous:
- With a modchip you will get access, regardless of FW. Just needs to be released ... (Will cost some money too)
- Software seems still be possible. However question is how long you want to wait. Most here waited so long that they got a second switch just to play games ... What when smash comes out and needs FW 6.0 or 7.0? Not gonna play smash?

I would advice to wait for a modchip and just keep playing, esp if you can solder, you can eventually (*sigh*) likely build your own for very little money. Eeither way until another FW comes out you don't need to decide.

 

[Kubas_inko]

Can you stop the update by force shutding down the console?

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Can you stop the update by force shutding down the console?

At that point you will likely brick. Especially given the 5.0.0 update changes every title and re-encrypts with a new key. No matter what if you do that something will break.

 

[Kubas_inko]

At that point you will likely brick. Especially given the 5.0.0 update changes every title and re-encrypts with a new key. No matter what if you do that something will break.

I hihgly doubt that you will brick by this. (But I never tried it so...)

 

[subcon959]

Can you stop the update by force shutding down the console?

It's not that easy without a power cord to yank. Maybe the update process disables software shutdown to reduce chance of brick.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

I hihgly doubt that you will brick by this. (But I never tried it so...)

Powering off a console during update is one of the few ways a normal console user can brick their system. When literally every title is being updated and being given new encryption keys, you'll at best end up with a frankenfirmware that has parts of it broken, or at worst you'll corrupt critical system titles and completely brick the system.
Turning off in the middle of an update is one of the biggest console no-nos

 

[Kubas_inko]

It's not that easy without a power cord to yank. Maybe the update process disables software shutdown to reduce chance of brick.

Force shutdown is not controlled by firmware. That's what it works in any situation.

 

[subcon959]

Force shutdown is not controlled by firmware. That's what it works in any situation.

But it doesnt, which is why you have cases of people needing to remove batteries. It's software based and therefore is prone to inconsistency, and possibly control.

 

[Kubas_inko]

But it doesnt, which is why you have cases of people needing to remove batteries. It's software based and therefore is prone to inconsistency, and possibly control.

I never said it cant be controlled. It us just not controlled by firmware.

 

[SjorsMaster]

Does this mean i would never able to use homebrew on my switch?

Pretty much yeah,
From what I understand Nintendo really did a great job this time.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Pretty much yeah,
From what I understand Nintendo really did a great job this time.

Especially with this update. And definitely with the upcoming switch revision with hardware exploit mitigation.

 

[Onibi]

No good modern update (or flash) process should brick your device. The warning is likely just for legal safety.

A good update will keep the old data around and swap out all old and new data (file links) at the last step. It will also use a commit history and a restore (or delete) approach on next boot if interrupted. Only if an update needs to be done in-place (due to size and storage restrictions) it may be prone to bricking. And I highly doubt the switch does that TBH.