I'll try to scoop up some older builds for archival which are known to have good performance, and some of them have good performance AND multiscreen support!!!
Edit: there are waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many builds, and half of them don't even work. I don't know what to do with them now...
Yeah I might continue testing and doing a bit better documentation (i.e. what released version is best for new 3DS, old 3DS, both-screens, etc.) I wanted to organize what versions I could, the development of this is a bit disorganized for my liking (no offense). Particularly with the most up to date version hidden several pages back and not mentioned in the first post...
Anyway, good luck with development of this project!
HzMod itself is a mess (and so am I). Although still not as bad as NTR, luckily.
ok so i tried make some comparison screenshots, and the 100% NTR has less noise than 100% HzMod while still having better framerate
the lossless HzMod doesnt have any noise, but it runs only at 8FPS
100% NTR
100% HzMod
Lossless HzMod:
so i will just stick with NTR for now. still great project though!
the lossless HzMod doesnt have any noise, but it runs only at 8FPS
100% NTR
100% HzMod
Lossless HzMod:
so i will just stick with NTR for now. still great project though!
OMG I just remembered that NTR CFW hasn't been properly updated for Luma3DS in ages.
This video says to use a custom fork of Luma. Sorry but no thanks, there are just too many moving parts and I don't want to be using a version of Luma that could possibly be massively outdated.
This video says to use a custom fork of Luma. Sorry but no thanks, there are just too many moving parts and I don't want to be using a version of Luma that could possibly be massively outdated.
thats why video guides are not something thats recommended as they too are usually outdated, plus sthetix usually has bad outdated guides people come whining to here about their console being bricked.
I don't think this project was ever intended to replace ntr. Ntr just uses hardware the old 3ds doesn't have, so this is the (much slower (at least atm, who knows) because it does not have its on hardware to run on) alternative.ok so i tried make some comparison screenshots, and the 100% NTR has less noise than 100% HzMod while still having better framerate
the lossless HzMod doesnt have any noise, but it runs only at 8FPS
100% NTR
100% HzMod
Lossless HzMod:
so i will just stick with NTR for now. still great project though!
I feel like it's hard for me to get a pixel-perfect screen capture for use in OBS. Do you have any advice?
Also, my use-case is trying to record the 3DS Virtual Console game Pokemon Yellow. I decided to say screw it and try NTR CFW, but it also has issues with colors.
NTR:
HzMod (Build June 11, 2019)
HzMod (Build June 6, 2020)
Thankfully, HzMod from February 2018 is lossless with TARGA and doesn't have these color issues.
Right now I'm playing the game with Bilinear upscaling, but by holding START I can play with integer scaling (in this case just 1:1) but the display window is still doing some weird filtering or scaling on the image. It's very small and hard to notice unless you're zoomed in with an image editor, but it bothers me (I want to upscale 3DS footage 4x for YouTube recordings but it's all weird because of this)
Also, my use-case is trying to record the 3DS Virtual Console game Pokemon Yellow. I decided to say screw it and try NTR CFW, but it also has issues with colors.
NTR:
HzMod (Build June 11, 2019)
HzMod (Build June 6, 2020)
Thankfully, HzMod from February 2018 is lossless with TARGA and doesn't have these color issues.
Right now I'm playing the game with Bilinear upscaling, but by holding START I can play with integer scaling (in this case just 1:1) but the display window is still doing some weird filtering or scaling on the image. It's very small and hard to notice unless you're zoomed in with an image editor, but it bothers me (I want to upscale 3DS footage 4x for YouTube recordings but it's all weird because of this)
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It may be better to grab the rom from the vc game via gm9 and emulate it on pc or mobileI feel like it's hard for me to get a pixel-perfect screen capture for use in OBS. Do you have any advice?
Also, my use-case is trying to record the 3DS Virtual Console game Pokemon Yellow. I decided to say screw it and try NTR CFW, but it also has issues with colors.
NTR:
HzMod (Build June 11, 2019)
HzMod (Build June 6, 2020)
Thankfully, HzMod from February 2018 is lossless with TARGA and doesn't have these color issues.
Right now I'm playing the game with Bilinear upscaling, but by holding START I can play with integer scaling (in this case just 1:1) but the display window is still doing some weird filtering or scaling on the image. It's very small and hard to notice unless you're zoomed in with an image editor, but it bothers me (I want to upscale 3DS footage 4x for YouTube recordings but it's all weird because of this)
You can find the game in gm9, mount it, go to romfs, then rom, and that file in there is the rom, you can just put a .gbc on the end after you copy it to gm9/out.
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It may be better to grab the rom from the vc game via gm9 and emulate it on pc or mobile
You can find the game in gm9, mount it, go to romfs, then rom, and that file in there is the rom, you can just put a .gbc on the end after you copy it to gm9/out.
Yeah... I dunno, it's just my personal preference I guess. And I like playing with debug and experimental software. My programmer friends and I might actually work on a fork of Snickerstream that supports TARGA, if anything does or doesn't come of that I'll let you all know.
Edit: Also the color issues absolutely fascinated me lol.
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Not to bother you about this, but do you think you still have this old build? I kinda just wanna try it for curiosity's sake.
ok so i tried make some comparison screenshots, and the 100% NTR has less noise than 100% HzMod while still having better framerate
the lossless HzMod doesnt have any noise, but it runs only at 8FPS
100% NTR
100% HzMod
Lossless HzMod:
so i will just stick with NTR for now. still great project though!
I feel like it's hard for me to get a pixel-perfect screen capture for use in OBS. Do you have any advice?
Also, my use-case is trying to record the 3DS Virtual Console game Pokemon Yellow. I decided to say screw it and try NTR CFW, but it also has issues with colors.
NTR:
HzMod (Build June 11, 2019)
HzMod (Build June 6, 2020)
Thankfully, HzMod from February 2018 is lossless with TARGA and doesn't have these color issues.
Right now I'm playing the game with Bilinear upscaling, but by holding START I can play with integer scaling (in this case just 1:1) but the display window is still doing some weird filtering or scaling on the image. It's very small and hard to notice unless you're zoomed in with an image editor, but it bothers me (I want to upscale 3DS footage 4x for YouTube recordings but it's all weird because of this)
What HzMod versions are y'all using?
The reason for the noise is lower color resolution (it's not actually noise, but the color has half resolution compared to the brightness data). If you were to desaturate the image, you could see that the image is actually full-resolution with minimal noise.
I also forgot to mention that HzMod had internal changes which makes SnickerStream not work with too old versions (I think those changes were made around 2020/feb to 2020/maj). Only use SnickerStream with versions newer than around 2020/03/29.
For my main purpose, I'm using a build from February 2018 (it's actually in the first post I think). That's from before you started converting previously TARGA games to JPEG, which broke colors really bad for some games (but naturally got a good performance boost).
Also, from my testing just now, Snickerstream seems to work with almost every version I have which is top-screen only. At least as far back as 2018, but it doesn't have TARGA support.
It does *work*, but in some color modes it will display very incorrect data. This is why I say that HzMod versions must be paired to their respective HorizonScreen versions.
I have the version linked in the first post on this thread
And i have the New 3DS version on my 3ds since i have the new 3ds model
I just downloaded this onto my old 3ds. It works, but the screen capture runs at 5 fps at a very low bitrate. Is there any way to improve this?
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I would like a Predator game "Kill Team" it takes place in the Jungle of the first movie, your team is sent to hunt the predator, using current tech drones and a trained team. Set traps use strategy to hunt and trap or kill the predator.
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Ill stick with my Battlefield. Yea a predator hunting game like that would be cool. Esp if you can be Arnold and say "Get to da choppa"+1 -
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Maybe Arnold could do a cameo voice acting, he is the one briefing you on the mission+1
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Honestly surprised they didn't make a tie in game for Predators that movie was awesome
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BigOnYa:
I went today and looked at a motorcycle someone was selling. I get there and the battery on it was dead, so the guy grabbed a battery charger and hooked it up. He plugged it into the wall, and the motorcycle sparked and started smoking. Come to find out the bike uses a 6 volt battery and the guy had the charger set to 12v. I said sorry to the dude and walked away. I felt bad for him tho.
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He ruined it basically. Sad cause it was a decent old bike. It would take more money to rewire the bike than it was worth tho.
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