http://pocketheaven.com down!

[Rayder]

I think PH likes the fact that there aren't a bunch of noobs and spammers posting on their forums all the time about. Besides, there is a wealth of info on the site which would be quite a shame to lose. I think many people use the site purely for the knowledge that is there. Besides, some homebrew developers prefer to announce their projects there.

I'm glad they are back. I sign up at precious few forums as it is (I'm just very particular), so one of them going down is considerable for me.

 

[dib]

That's precisely what I mean. The forums can be archived and anything worth knowing is _supposed_ to be consolidated into the wiki anyway. That leaves the few developers and worthy posters, but anybody announcing releases over there may as well be telling it to an empty room.

Emuxhaven is the same exact thing. They are/were attached to a nice handful of developers and their releases like the Glide plugin for N64 emulation. But it's been a slow, lingering death because they refused to take measures like merging. I just checked and my last login was 2006 and very little has changed.

I was on PH in Feb of 04, so it's been a long time and I remember when it was bustling, at least compared to now. (That's despite being banned over something trivial, and having to reregister under a pseudonym these past several years) So I'm as sentimental as anybody but the site is still dying.

Speaking of which--maybe if somebody from PH wants to unban my old name so I could resume it, that would be absolutely peachy. I think six years is more than enough time to make amends.

 

[kuwanger]

That's precisely what I mean. The forums can be archived and anything worth knowing is _supposed_ to be consolidated into the wiki anyway.

Well, that's clearly not the case. It's also rather silly. If there's anything using the internet should teach a person is that there is no such thing as one authoritative source on all things on a subject (Wikipedia routinely fails if you look hard enough, especially since editors realized how ludicrous it'd be to try to provide all information to all people well). I really commend Titney for all her effort on things, especially the wiki. It definitely is *a* good source of information, but the forums are as well. More to the point, the forums aren't there just as an archive of past information but as a source of new information...

That leaves the few developers and worthy posters, but anybody announcing releases over there may as well be telling it to an empty room.

Funny enough, no. That "empty room" you speak of are, wouldn't you know it, those few *other developers*. You might not have noticed, but GBA development in generally is rather death. Since PH has been rather GBA/developer-centric and has transition significantly to other platforms (mostly because others forums tended to more fill that void and the developers who were already there haven't been exactly yearning to jump to another platform to develop for; this is probably because the GBA, as a platform, did what they wanted and there aren't a lot of coherent choices on whether else to develop that isn't a pretty divergent and radical jump), it's not much of a surprise that the board is much deader than it used to be. People came to PH to find out about new developments. New developments, anyways, tend to come in unpredictable spurts. And in the interim, most people go to other boards for information because most people aren't developers. Personally, I'm curious how if/when will gbatemp changes its name to something else.

Emuxhaven is the same exact thing. They are/were attached to a nice handful of developers and their releases like the Glide plugin for N64 emulation. But it's been a slow, lingering death because they refused to take measures like merging. I just checked and my last login was 2006 and very little has changed.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Merging can be done for good reason, like a common purpose. It can also be done to guarantee some level of archivability, in case one or more sites go down. I don't really see gbatemp and pocketheaven having a common enough purpose, though, to really think they'd be good choices to merge anyways. Now, as for sharing backups of public forum messages and other public data: that's not a bad idea, generally, and doesn't require merging. It'd be as simple as providing some sort of mechanism to allow other sites to archive their data and some agreed upon guidelines about how to mirror it in the event the original site goes belly up permanently.

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I was on PH in Feb of 04, so it's been a long time and I remember when it was bustling, at least compared to now. (That's despite being banned over something trivial, and having to reregister under a pseudonym these past several years) So I'm as sentimental as anybody but the site is still dying.

All things are dying and will die. The real question is, do the people who tend it care enough to try to mend it or simply leave it to wither completely. I'd presume a part of that comes from whether there are people who still use it and enjoy it; ie, those who maintain forums obtain some joy out of their maintenance benefiting others. As far as I can tell, the GBA scene isn't so dead to simply let it wither compeltely. But, then, really, it's up to the PH admins to decide for themselves. Personally, I hope they stay around for quite some time. But, then, I'm one of those few developers.

 

[Garcimak]

All things are dying and will die. The real question is, do the people who tend it care enough to try to mend it or simply leave it to wither completely. I'd presume a part of that comes from whether there are people who still use it and enjoy it; ie, those who maintain forums obtain some joy out of their maintenance benefiting others. As far as I can tell, the GBA scene isn't so dead to simply let it wither compeltely. But, then, really, it's up to the PH admins to decide for themselves. Personally, I hope they stay around for quite some time. But, then, I'm one of those few developers.

Reposting here because its a topical subject, forum was still online until december 2012, but it seems to be gone for good this time, no more response since then.
The wiki does not respond aswell. It's a valuable forum which disappears
i found it a little sad to have no news to date, even if it was also very quiet i was wondering what happened to it.... I spent time to time mostly to check pocketnes improvement,

Thanks to all dev legends Dwedit, Flubba, Kuwanger and admin (Titney...) that was great as long as he held.

 

[FireGrey]

Time for a rage, in an organised and calm fashion.
1. wtf is pocketheaven?
2. Why should we care?
3. How is this news?

 

[FAST6191]

3. Garcimak bumped a 2010 topic though it is now the case again.
1. Pocketheaven was a site where a lot of the GBA emulator developers hung around (and still do to an extent) and stuff got done*. They also had a great wiki (I do not reckon I could say it would be a massive massive loss like if http://nocash.emubase.de/gbatek.htm completely vanished off the internet and everybody's hard drive tomorrow but it was really nicely put together with lots of good info on older GBA flash carts and some more obscure stuff), hosted one of the nicer collections of GB, GBC and GBA patches for various things ( http://bubbz.pocketheaven.com/ and usually referred to as bubbz patch collection or something along those lines) and one of the top release list databases for a lot of consoles ( http://www.advanscene.com/ is about the only equal of it today since GBAtemp's upgrade has nerfed its release list though I will not discount http://www.abgx.net/ for pure information).
2. This feels kind of redundant as 1 probably sold you on it (or not I guess). If the loss of a very valuable information site on matters of the GBA and DS is something that would count as a loss in your book chalk up a big one, if you otherwise do not care then I guess it does not apply to you.

*not to diss the PSP and such like emulator authors but the people that did it for the GBA and DS really did know the consoles they were emulating and did not do badly at knowing pretty much every quirk of the GBA and DS either which led to some seriously impressive programming and techniques employed (with a few exceptions if the PSP crowd played at the same level we probably would not be having the GCW Zero discussion at present).

Bonus. I can not do much about the GBC at this stage but a copy of a post I made the other day for GBA patches and such. None of it includes the F2A patches and such like but I figure most of those are not really that useful

Spoiler

RTC patches for ruby and sapphire should be doable with
http://www.no-intro.org/tools.htm

Boktai patches
http://gbatemp.net/threads/boktai-solar-sensor-patch-kit.245127/ (not sure if the EZ4 issues were sorted in the end but that would be the thread to look at)

Dragon ball Z games I have no idea where to find patches for right now. Some came precracked though.

Classic nes titles- I still suggest you use an emulator (pocketnes or HVCA) as they are far better. Still http://filetrip.net/gba-downloads/t...m-mini-fix-patches-filetrip-fixed-f26544.html

http://www.advanscene.com/html/Releases/dbreleases.php?id=1979 for warioware twisted.
http://www.advanscene.com/html/Releases/dbreleases.php?id=1947 Euro Yoshi tilt/universal gravitation/Topsy-Turvy
http://www.advanscene.com/html/Releases/dbreleases.php?id=2001 NA Yoshi tilt/universal gravitation/Topsy-Turvy

If you wanted the trainers there
http://gba.dellicious.de/gbatrainer/
http://www.advanscene.com/ has some of the ones they might have been missing.

Everything else is pointless with EZ4client in place or no patch was ever made in the first place (mainly Pokemon emerald though there might be something available now, legendz, rockman 4.5 and I have still yet to hear back about Samurai deeper kyo- http://gbatemp.net/threads/rtc-game-information-for-k1-revo-review.338288/ has more on the various games).

Flubba still has a site here
http://www.ndsretro.com/
Dwedit (who did various things with pocketnes and goomba color these days- in many ways they have surpassed some of the DS NES and GB/GBC emulators) has a board which houses discussion on such things
http://www.dwedit.org/dwedit_board/ (though it appears to be down at time of posting). He can be found in various places though (granted my list of sites I visit on a regular basis is not that large but romhacking.net forums works).
kuwanger is still around in a few places (again I do not have the widest selection of forums in my regularly perused bookmarks but here and the sosuke EZFlash forums)
http://www.kuwanger.net/gba/
Most people around here will probably want his EZ4 fixes for the various emulators though Dwedit did incorporate such things into newer versions of goomba color at least (sadly I did not think to grab a copy).
http://ezflash.sosuke.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=12660

You can probably find a few of them over at http://forum.gbadev.org/ as well but that place is not as active as it once was.

 

[RafflesPH]

ph - as it was - has gone for good following a server destroying session by the vps host - even the domain has been taken over