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This should be fairly straightforward.
-If you happen to be using Linux on a Virtual Machine running in Virtual PC, VirtualBox, or some other OS Virtualization application, please list that in your post. Also, unless your host Operating System (Eg, the one that VirtualBox, Virtual PC, etc is running on) is Linux, in which case please answer the poll under distros, etc, please don't list it. I hardly care that you can run Fedora 13 in Windows or OSX under virtualbox, that's not the point of this poll.
-You can still list the distro that you are Virtualizing, if that happens to be the case
-Please only answer the Distro question if you have actually used Linux at some point. I do not want to skew the results.
-Please do not select a distro you haven't actually used before even if you eventually plan to use them at a future point.
-If you plan to use Linux but do not currently, please don't answer this poll.
-You can select more than one Distro. However, in a seperate post please list the Distro you use/have used the most.
-BSD Operating Systems, whether they are free (OpenBSD, FreeBSD, PCBSD, etc),or not free (Such as OSX) do not count.
-Solaris-based Systems also do not count, this includes Solaris, OpenSolaris, and any other derivatives
-Points to anyone with the guts to use Slackware.
-Not so many, but still some Points to PCLinuxOS users. That distro has an independant code base, but yet It used APT from Debain and Ubuntu but with RPM packages instead
-You may list which Desktop Environments you use in an actual post, as well as any enhancements you feel are significant. Please though, do not post an entire list of all of the packages that are installed on your system on an individual basis.
-If you answer the 2nd question with the 4th choice, Tux would like a word with you, then you need to read this!
- Finally , if you select openSUSE on the Distro Question, I might get enraged just enough to fry you with my third arm.
*Insert long flashback here*
Ever since I learned that Novell made that backstabbing patent deal with Micro$oft back in 2006, I've absolutely hated Novell.
Back when I initially tried Linux that same year in high-school in my A+ and Network+ Concurrent enrollment classes. I used it for at least 3 weeks to maybe a month as a sort of "for fun" thing. Back then I had no idea that they had made such a deal. I only learned of this deal last year.
I guess in retrospect that openSuSE was probably not exactly the distro I should have tried first. I found OpenSUSE so complicated, cluttered, and unfriendly that I spited it for all it was worth.
As of trying it out again for the past week to see if things have changed, nothing has changed in OpenSUSE, it's still overly cluttered, still has bad package management system, having to install the broadcom wireless drivers using NDISWrapper. I hate using this, less half the time the drivers I use through NDISWrapper which I know are exactly the ones for my Broadcom Wireless card, don't work. I've configured these same drivers just for kicks in another fedora 13 installation just as a test, and in Fedora guess what....they work just fine. It's like Novell and those in charge of the openSuSE project are developing it specifically to fail in as many aspects as possible.
Either way if I may be honest I much prefer native drivers, Ubuntu and Fedora both provide an easy way to install them (Ubuntu's method is BS easy), granted they are made by Broadcom and the source code is not available for the Ubuntu or Fedora Devs, they still work better than ones used in NDISWrapper
I could go on and on and bash SuSE some more, but it's not fair on their mascot, I mean Geeko is like the only good thing about openSuSE.
Thankfully back in 2006 I had a Disk of Ubuntu 5.04 or 6.0x or something. Which I ran in a Virtual Machine to try out. Little did I know I'd fall in love with the distro in a number of years. Had I not, I may have been put of Linux for life, cause OpenSUSE had a really bad first impression on me. Thankfully that never happened (eg, I was not turned off of Linux.)
*End long Flashback*
So, with that flashback over I can move on to my main post
Currently, I have been using Linux on an everyday basis for about 1-2 years, and before that I had been playing around with every release of Ubuntu in Virtualized environments since version 5.04 I believe. Linux is currently my Main OS of choice, despite the fact that I use a Macbook.
So, here's my quick summary.
Linux Usage: Everyday, it's my Main OS of choice
Distro Used Most: Ubuntu
2nd Most Used Distro: Fedora
Distro's Used Previously:
Debian (Tried a month ago)
Linux Mint (Before Switching to Fedora)
OpenSuse (Grrrr, hate you SuSE. *RAGE* Hate you even more Novell!)
Berry Linux (Based on Fedora, I had not realized it used RPM's either) main theme appearance wise seems to be Cats and Kittens. I Virtualbox'd it about 3 months ago. It's cute and all that, and I have to give the creator credit. However I think it's too hobby-like, it doesn't seem totally built for everyday home or bussiness use)
Ultimate Edition (Based on Ubuntu, but with lots of really, and perhaps too many flashy effects and stuff. Comes with lots of stuff main distributors won't include due to patents, etc. Personally, I found it to be too riddled with too many special effects, gaudy themes, etc to impress me.
Why did I switch from X Distro? (Not counting any that haven't been used for at least a Month on end)
OpenSuSE: See my flashback a ways up. Something about a backstabbing deal about Patents between Micro$oft and Novell (Novell who distribute openSUSE). Can you believe M$ actually thinks that they own Intellectual Rights over Linux to the point which they thing racketeering other businesses is ok.....OH WAIT!? That and everything in openSuSE seems to have to automatically be made to be too ****ing complicated.
Mint: Mint was fine and all that, I actually like it as a Distro, but the release cycle is way too long. They also do not tend to coordinate the community editions well. For that simple reason, I switched to Fedora. When I did use Mint, I used Gnome and KDE as my Desktop Environment. Not quite sure why I used KDE though, it doesn't always rub me the right way.
FYI, Community Editions are like editions with alternate Desktop Environments such as KDE, LXDE, XFCE, which may have extra utilities or features that you would not normally get by just installing the Desktop Environment in the standard Gnome release with your package manager).
Why do I use X Distro?
Ubuntu: I have used Ubuntu for several years, if I include the on and off usage through high-school through virtualized machines. As far as I'm concerned, it has been the most user friendly distro I have used, and it's easy for me to understand. Alot of people bash it for not being bleeding edge like some other distros are. Here's a good point to make as a counter-argument to that statement. Would you rather have bleeding-edge and unstableness, or would you rather have something that isn't bleeding-edge but gets the job done and is stable.
For the most part though, I use Ubuntu because it's stable enough, it does what I need to, it's user friendly, and I understand it due to the fact that I have been using it even before it became my everyday OS.
Fedora: Well to be honest, I had not tried an RPM distro since OpenSuSE. I guess SuSE scared me off of them originally. However life with two Linux Distros that were both RPM based got to be too boring, and Ubuntu was definately there to stay. Since Mint wasn't keeping up-to-date like I had thought it might, I decided to give Fedora a spin.
I loved it, just as much as I love Ubuntu. It didn't even take a week and I've already gotten mostly used to it. Installing stuff is for the most part not much different, only instead of typing "sudo apt-get install insert-package-name-here" I instead type in "sudo yum install package-name-here" and most everything else is the same.
On Both Distros, I have
-Compiz Effects Enabled/Configured, including
+Neat Rotatable cube/shape with 4-8 Desktops on them
+Awesome Skydomes that rotate in conjuction with the cube
+Cute wobbly and snapping windows, Coverflow Effects on two of my accounts for my active windows, Ring Selector in my main Ubuntu account which reminds me alot of the Secret of Mana styled menu
+Annotations, which allow me to highlight or annotate parts of my desktop
+And more cool other effects/features than you care to shake a third leg at!
-Emerald Window Themer/Manager with various snazzy themes
-Ubuntu Restricted Extras
-Avant Window Manager, which I will take anyday over tacky Cairo Dock
-Three Desktop Environments for Ubuntu, Gnome, KDE, Xfce.
-iPod Touch support, even though I use my iPod only with OSX
-NTFS R/W support, HFS Support
-Burg Bootloader (A very nice and pretty version of grub)
-Wally, a wallpaper changer
-More things than I could possibly list
Btw, I am no programmer/coder. I've written maybe one or two simple shell scripts in termial, so I don't need people bashing me for being kinda basic...well I shouldn't really say that. I am going into Network Systems Engineering in college. I guess I prefer Distros that are not-so-totally-bleeding-edge but are still up to date with current trends and technology.
-If you happen to be using Linux on a Virtual Machine running in Virtual PC, VirtualBox, or some other OS Virtualization application, please list that in your post. Also, unless your host Operating System (Eg, the one that VirtualBox, Virtual PC, etc is running on) is Linux, in which case please answer the poll under distros, etc, please don't list it. I hardly care that you can run Fedora 13 in Windows or OSX under virtualbox, that's not the point of this poll.
-You can still list the distro that you are Virtualizing, if that happens to be the case
-Please only answer the Distro question if you have actually used Linux at some point. I do not want to skew the results.
-Please do not select a distro you haven't actually used before even if you eventually plan to use them at a future point.
-If you plan to use Linux but do not currently, please don't answer this poll.
-You can select more than one Distro. However, in a seperate post please list the Distro you use/have used the most.
-BSD Operating Systems, whether they are free (OpenBSD, FreeBSD, PCBSD, etc),or not free (Such as OSX) do not count.
-Solaris-based Systems also do not count, this includes Solaris, OpenSolaris, and any other derivatives
-Points to anyone with the guts to use Slackware.
-Not so many, but still some Points to PCLinuxOS users. That distro has an independant code base, but yet It used APT from Debain and Ubuntu but with RPM packages instead
-You may list which Desktop Environments you use in an actual post, as well as any enhancements you feel are significant. Please though, do not post an entire list of all of the packages that are installed on your system on an individual basis.
-If you answer the 2nd question with the 4th choice, Tux would like a word with you, then you need to read this!
- Finally , if you select openSUSE on the Distro Question, I might get enraged just enough to fry you with my third arm.
*Insert long flashback here*
Ever since I learned that Novell made that backstabbing patent deal with Micro$oft back in 2006, I've absolutely hated Novell.
Back when I initially tried Linux that same year in high-school in my A+ and Network+ Concurrent enrollment classes. I used it for at least 3 weeks to maybe a month as a sort of "for fun" thing. Back then I had no idea that they had made such a deal. I only learned of this deal last year.
I guess in retrospect that openSuSE was probably not exactly the distro I should have tried first. I found OpenSUSE so complicated, cluttered, and unfriendly that I spited it for all it was worth.
As of trying it out again for the past week to see if things have changed, nothing has changed in OpenSUSE, it's still overly cluttered, still has bad package management system, having to install the broadcom wireless drivers using NDISWrapper. I hate using this, less half the time the drivers I use through NDISWrapper which I know are exactly the ones for my Broadcom Wireless card, don't work. I've configured these same drivers just for kicks in another fedora 13 installation just as a test, and in Fedora guess what....they work just fine. It's like Novell and those in charge of the openSuSE project are developing it specifically to fail in as many aspects as possible.
Either way if I may be honest I much prefer native drivers, Ubuntu and Fedora both provide an easy way to install them (Ubuntu's method is BS easy), granted they are made by Broadcom and the source code is not available for the Ubuntu or Fedora Devs, they still work better than ones used in NDISWrapper
I could go on and on and bash SuSE some more, but it's not fair on their mascot, I mean Geeko is like the only good thing about openSuSE.
Thankfully back in 2006 I had a Disk of Ubuntu 5.04 or 6.0x or something. Which I ran in a Virtual Machine to try out. Little did I know I'd fall in love with the distro in a number of years. Had I not, I may have been put of Linux for life, cause OpenSUSE had a really bad first impression on me. Thankfully that never happened (eg, I was not turned off of Linux.)
*End long Flashback*
So, with that flashback over I can move on to my main post
Currently, I have been using Linux on an everyday basis for about 1-2 years, and before that I had been playing around with every release of Ubuntu in Virtualized environments since version 5.04 I believe. Linux is currently my Main OS of choice, despite the fact that I use a Macbook.
So, here's my quick summary.
Linux Usage: Everyday, it's my Main OS of choice
Distro Used Most: Ubuntu
2nd Most Used Distro: Fedora
Distro's Used Previously:
Debian (Tried a month ago)
Linux Mint (Before Switching to Fedora)
OpenSuse (Grrrr, hate you SuSE. *RAGE* Hate you even more Novell!)
Berry Linux (Based on Fedora, I had not realized it used RPM's either) main theme appearance wise seems to be Cats and Kittens. I Virtualbox'd it about 3 months ago. It's cute and all that, and I have to give the creator credit. However I think it's too hobby-like, it doesn't seem totally built for everyday home or bussiness use)
Ultimate Edition (Based on Ubuntu, but with lots of really, and perhaps too many flashy effects and stuff. Comes with lots of stuff main distributors won't include due to patents, etc. Personally, I found it to be too riddled with too many special effects, gaudy themes, etc to impress me.
Why did I switch from X Distro? (Not counting any that haven't been used for at least a Month on end)
OpenSuSE: See my flashback a ways up. Something about a backstabbing deal about Patents between Micro$oft and Novell (Novell who distribute openSUSE). Can you believe M$ actually thinks that they own Intellectual Rights over Linux to the point which they thing racketeering other businesses is ok.....OH WAIT!? That and everything in openSuSE seems to have to automatically be made to be too ****ing complicated.
Mint: Mint was fine and all that, I actually like it as a Distro, but the release cycle is way too long. They also do not tend to coordinate the community editions well. For that simple reason, I switched to Fedora. When I did use Mint, I used Gnome and KDE as my Desktop Environment. Not quite sure why I used KDE though, it doesn't always rub me the right way.
FYI, Community Editions are like editions with alternate Desktop Environments such as KDE, LXDE, XFCE, which may have extra utilities or features that you would not normally get by just installing the Desktop Environment in the standard Gnome release with your package manager).
Why do I use X Distro?
Ubuntu: I have used Ubuntu for several years, if I include the on and off usage through high-school through virtualized machines. As far as I'm concerned, it has been the most user friendly distro I have used, and it's easy for me to understand. Alot of people bash it for not being bleeding edge like some other distros are. Here's a good point to make as a counter-argument to that statement. Would you rather have bleeding-edge and unstableness, or would you rather have something that isn't bleeding-edge but gets the job done and is stable.
For the most part though, I use Ubuntu because it's stable enough, it does what I need to, it's user friendly, and I understand it due to the fact that I have been using it even before it became my everyday OS.
Fedora: Well to be honest, I had not tried an RPM distro since OpenSuSE. I guess SuSE scared me off of them originally. However life with two Linux Distros that were both RPM based got to be too boring, and Ubuntu was definately there to stay. Since Mint wasn't keeping up-to-date like I had thought it might, I decided to give Fedora a spin.
I loved it, just as much as I love Ubuntu. It didn't even take a week and I've already gotten mostly used to it. Installing stuff is for the most part not much different, only instead of typing "sudo apt-get install insert-package-name-here" I instead type in "sudo yum install package-name-here" and most everything else is the same.
On Both Distros, I have
-Compiz Effects Enabled/Configured, including
+Neat Rotatable cube/shape with 4-8 Desktops on them
+Awesome Skydomes that rotate in conjuction with the cube
+Cute wobbly and snapping windows, Coverflow Effects on two of my accounts for my active windows, Ring Selector in my main Ubuntu account which reminds me alot of the Secret of Mana styled menu
+Annotations, which allow me to highlight or annotate parts of my desktop
+And more cool other effects/features than you care to shake a third leg at!
-Emerald Window Themer/Manager with various snazzy themes
-Ubuntu Restricted Extras
-Avant Window Manager, which I will take anyday over tacky Cairo Dock
-Three Desktop Environments for Ubuntu, Gnome, KDE, Xfce.
-iPod Touch support, even though I use my iPod only with OSX
-NTFS R/W support, HFS Support
-Burg Bootloader (A very nice and pretty version of grub)
-Wally, a wallpaper changer
-More things than I could possibly list
Btw, I am no programmer/coder. I've written maybe one or two simple shell scripts in termial, so I don't need people bashing me for being kinda basic...well I shouldn't really say that. I am going into Network Systems Engineering in college. I guess I prefer Distros that are not-so-totally-bleeding-edge but are still up to date with current trends and technology.