I'm sure you were the smartest infant born who shit roses and didn't need anything after the umbilical cord was cut.
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How do you feel about abortion?
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I've never had a debate with a conservative about abortion where this specific argument wasn't used.
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Be nice, there are definitely liberals and moderates that are against abortion as well.
But yes, that is a common "argument" among them
I understand, but the classic conservative debate tactic is blame the victim/minority:
- The black kid should've kept his hand away from his pocket - (deserved to be shot)
- The woman should've closed her legs - (doesn't deserve rights to an abortion)
- The gay man shouldn't be displaying any sort of homosexuality in public - (shouldn't be oppressing Christians in public (lol))
- The immigrant should only fly an American Flag - (shouldn't be "disrespecting" the USA by flying a foreign flag)
- The single parent working two full time jobs to feed, house and clothe three kids shouldn't ask for benefits - (for some invalid reason, they don't deserve it and they're moochers)
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condoms - small hole in it from bad manufacturing or someone going in with a needle (its actually really easy to do without it being noticed, and i have not done it to mess with people, only to see how difficult it would be for someone to do)
pills - different bodies are different bodies, not all work the same, theres a girl at my school that is uneffected by birth control pills
spermicide - its like antibiotics, works on most but some have restances and are uneffected
cleaning out sperm - just no... why would anyone think that would work? thats how the 9y/o girl down the street got pregnant
dodging periods - 2 words, surprise babies
Agreed, obviously we've got to keep legal access to an abortion around, but at the very least better sex education and free access to birth control will reduce the number of abortions significantly
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im all for abortion because it should be up to the mother/accidentally pregnant womans decision
but it should still be used as a plan b for when birth control fails
it would be kinda weird for someone to goto an abortion clinic every few days XD
Indeed. For teens and young adults. Not like that channel "queer kid stuff" which is too far beyond education. Reminds me of my social worker as a kid that grabbed some human model dolls like those that have the furniture accessories and full family house and asked "Did your mommy and daddy ever do this?" and he'd start humping the two together on a bed. HE FLIPS IT, get this, then ask if I'd ever seen that, and I sit there. Confused. With an uncomfortable feeling that I still remember. My case was dropped as suspected to be slander on my family but that was the weirdest shit as a boy. He might as well should have got on his knees and did jerking motions then ask "Did you ever see mommy do this?". God... xD lol
Whatever happened to teaching our kids not to be sluts?
... What are you talking about?
Wow, way to come across as a dick. Hate to break it to you, but if you have a teenager they're definitely out being a "slut" (read: having sex, even if it's in a committed relationship) anyway. Wouldn't you rather that they do it in a safe manner with as little risk of pregnancy possible?Whatever happened to teaching our kids not to be sluts?
And even if they aren't having sex, do they not have the right to fully understanding both their own and the opposite sex's anatomy?
Oh no no no, I was truly an awful child. I don't want anyone to repeat my parent's mistakes.
Conservative? Haha! I depise them just as much as I despise liberals.
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A person who steals should be arrested, not shot. However, if the robber pulled out a gun on a person and threaten to shoot. The police are justified in shooting him or her.
I never said a woman does not deserve abortion rights. I think it's morally wrong to kill an unborn living being. Birth control exists and should always be used above abortion.
Homosexuals can display affection in people. It does not bother me as long as I am not affected by it.
Immigrants should be able to fly whatever flag they may choose. They should however stand for the pledge.
We wouldn't bring race into it if that weren't the case, but even branching out of racist behavior I'd like to remind you of the time that the cops shot a white guy holding a Wii remotes while he answered the door. Police these days are WAY too trigger-happy and it's not a good thing for ANYONE, but @dpad_5678 is right; conservative talk shows ALWAYS justify the killing of an unarmed black person
I don't think there's a single person in this thread (that isn't being intentionally cynical) that would disagree with the last sentence
Why, if I might ask? No one's REQUIRED to, and I can see why many people, immigrant or no, might either specifically chose not to or not specifically chose to
To prevent further derailment of this topic, please DM me if you would like to discuss this further. Thank you.
You're basically saying immigrants have to "make up" for being immigrants by standing for the pledge. No one has to stand for that useless chant. It's actually unpatriotic to force someone to stand for it.
If you feel the need to PM me you can, but I gotta be honest I don't think this thread's going anywhere that it can't be pulled back to currently. I'm also not exactly "arguing to win" so much as both trying to understand your position and relate it back to my own experiences, so.... *shrug* your call, I guess
I do. I find it an extremely valuable service, or indeed convenience, that the modern world can provide, one that helps a lot of people and society at large. I attach no greater moral burden to the process than I might someone going to the dentist, and would similarly offer to give someone a lift to and fro just as I might for that.
To that end, though, it's not something you ENJOY, correct, just something you have no objection to? You have to be careful, otherwise you'll end up playing into the hypothetical (but not realistic) "hooker that goes to an abortion clinic on a weekly basis because she doesn't care about birth control" stereotype
Earlier I saw it phrased as "necessary evil" where I don't consider it an evil, not even close. That is where I was heading.
It is a positive service, a positive thing a person can do and can happily treat it lightly with friends just like a bad hangover.
It is a positive service, a positive thing a person can do and can happily treat it lightly with friends just like a bad hangover.
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