I have been sitting around patiently awaiting the flashcard manufacturers that I have cards for to crack the firmware upgrade, and it has just stuck me, how will they crack it ? Think about it..

To crack the upgrade they would need to dump the firmware to a media of some type and do whatever they need to with it, disassemble, hack or whatever... to dump it they would need to be able to run some code to dump it... where would they run the code from ?

They cant run it from the SD slot and they cant run it from a flashcard as none work..

If they can run the code from a media of some type ( SD or Flashcard ) then there would be no need to crack it as they would have already done so to run the code in the first place...

Is the whole process trial and error or have they got a clever way to dump the firmware that we don't even know about..... ?

makes you wonder.....

 

And how do you do that without looking at the code... I am a programmer and a part time hacker *cough *cough so would like to know how you hack code you cant read

 

Thought about that.. if that was true it would have been done by now...

 

Flash cards are not the same as real games, the teams will probably make a list of differences and brute force it. We may not know the DSi but we do know DS games.
Looking at the various videos and prerelease shots over the years we know the teams have decent development hardware, personally I would clone an original game (or use an original with a sniffing/injection tool on the bus you have just intercepted and work from there).

I also prattled on about a few things here:
http://ezflash.sosuke.com/viewtopic.php?f=...940&start=6

 

Stop thinking too hard, thats all I have to say besides that they are a group of people that have more developing skills that they make money off of.
They are not your little backyard dev trying to make a crappy homebrew game.
They probably know a lot more about how the DS works and probably open up the DS and connect cables etc just like the DSi hack.
Not really hard.

 

We are talking about the DS not the Wii here.
I was just answering the question as how they do it, and i stated clearly that they are in it for the money and not just for the hell of it.
Read the whole thread please.
The DS community is driven by these money hungry devs, but with the DSi there's a possibility that it can be exploited
and we would not heavily rely on the flash carts.

 

im not really intrested in how they do it as long as they do... anyhow they just get a dsi with 1.4 on it, take it apart and find out what makes it tick... they'll probe every chip and find out what info it needs to see coming off the game card then match that with there own firmware.

 

For once can this stay on topic ? I don't care who is cracking it or it there is monetary motivation, the question is how they will achieve it...

Sorry to be so blunt, but I hate it when threads go wildly off topic then get locked.

Thx

 

IF you have a NAND reader/writter then you can put the files in your desktop and start dissemble the firmware, it takes time to do this, but if you have a team of people that get paid for doing this and know how to........then it takes few days to know what the FW has inside to block the cards, an how to reverse this block...!!

.....not all is games, cards and the SD slot you know, the thing do has screws that you can easily take away.

 

But what is the point of making it if its not gonna be released? xD Plus i sorta agree with the guy above there, you just get a NAND reader, and access the NAND memory with it, then you get to the source code and find the workaround to get through it. NAND readers are rare though, so it'll take some time. But anyhow, its possible.

EDIT: Isn't the firmware located in the NAND memory anyhow? So you could just access the source code of the system files on the dsi in there and crack it. Then they get the workaround and wala!! the flashcard works again. Hmm it would also be really nice if they came out with a flashcard that can access the whole dsi memory system and alter whatever necessary changes there would be probably not likely currently, but it could in the future.