Hacking Hermes cIOS's?

[Aractus]

Okay, so today I decided to clean out my Wii's system. I decided to start by deleting all the system ios's that are depreciated, and then reinstalling all the patched ios's in my system with fresh unmodified versions. So I deleted: ios5, ios11, ios20, ios30 and cIOS236. And then installed:

Re-installing the system menu was simply so I could remove the old starfall hacks and install priiloader. And please, there is a right way, and a wrong way to do all this - I did it the right way, if you go and do it the wrong way you'll end up with a brick, so think before attempting something like this yourself.

So I'm left with a cleaner system now:

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).
 
Region: PAL (original region: AUS)
System Menu 4.1E (v450)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 2006.09.07
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 37355182
Boot2 v2
Found 69 titles.
Found 36 IOS on this console. 0 of them are stub.
 
IOS9 (rev 778): No Patches
IOS12 (rev 269): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 273): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 520): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 523): No Patches
IOS17 (rev 775): No Patches
IOS21 (rev 782): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1037): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1550): No Patches
IOS31 (rev 3349): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3091): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3348): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3349): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 1042): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6174): No Patches
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4.0): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4.0): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
BC v2
MIOS v10 (DIOS MIOS 2.6.1+)
 
Report generated on 2013/08/12.

Now as the thread title suggests - I want to know, should I keep cIOS222/223, do I need them at all? What homebrew apps (I'm esp thinking of emulators) rely on these? Any? None?

 

[Lacius]

Hermes' cIOS was good for a couple things, including but not limited to games that used USB instruments, but they're a bit antiquated now, particularly with d2x v10 adding USB port1 support. 99% of my backups use cIOS249 (d2x, base 56), and any others would use cIOS250 (d2x, base 57). Every now and then I'll use cIOS246 (d2x, base 38) for something like Animal Crossing: City Folk that needs base 38 for a USB keyboard; my setup is nearly identical to yours, and cIOS files 245-251 will already cover everything with minimal problems.

In short, you'll probably never use them, but they're so small that there's no real reason to delete them either.

 

[Aractus]

Ah ok thanks. Dunno why I had it in my head that homebrew may want to use it!

 

[calmwaters]

Wow, a system check from the future. What's the twelfth day of August like? Is it better than the eleventh?

 

[Lacius]

Ah ok thanks. Dunno why I had it in my head that homebrew may want to use it!

Media players and such used to require cIOS202, but I'm not aware of anything important that still uses it. They've mostly moved in favor of AHBPROT and IOS58. Backup loaders and whatnot use cIOS249 and the like. A few apps like cIOS236 (patched IOS36 in slot 236). Nothing modern uses Hermes' cIOS anymore, as far as I'm aware.

 

[AbdallahTerro]

I would keep it.
Even though I only use it for uLoader since it has better Wiiware/VC compatibility
You can also use it to launch Wii games too but d2x is almost covering that part pretty good now

 

[Cyan]

Ah ok thanks. Dunno why I had it in my head that homebrew may want to use it!

Actually, there's a mod version of WiiSX which require IOS202 (base38+60, or just base60)
but the official version use IOS58.