Hacker Finds PS3 Firmware 3.56 Exploit

[shakirmoledina]

lolz to rayder angry fox man...
when pretty this very same hacker said something about the psp keys, someone on jpcsp told me this aint true
now maybe this time he aint playing

 

[Rydian]

Er, what?

 

[Maz7006]

- i'd like to see graf's work pick up again .

 

[Maedhros]

I'm disappointed. He could have blackmailed Sony with this (e.g., 'Drop the lawsuits or we release a new hack'), but it seems it's too late now.

Only retarded would do this type of action.

 

[Zorua]

I believe him. After all, he isn't obligated to release it and releasing it may get him into legal trouble.

 

[FireEmblemGuy]

I'm disappointed. He could have blackmailed Sony with this (e.g., 'Drop the lawsuits or we release a new hack'), but it seems it's too late now.

Only retarded would do this type of action.

Of course, but it's still amusing to see someone try that sort of thing.

 

[Tonitonichopchop]

You think this information will help a hacker? He didn't even give an ounce of info how to do it, so if someone was also trying to find the exploit before him, then this won't be giving them any clues. Maybe a bit of motivation if anything.This information will help a hacker because they now know there is an exploit. When it comes to projects that can take weeks or months, motivation is key. If it's thought there's no hole in the first place then why would somebody potentially waste their time? However if it's confirmd by a very well-known hacker that a hole exists in that version, that's all the reason other hackers need to try to find it.

Fair enough. Although I would think a hacker capable of finding the exploit would already be trying by now (And the people being inspired by this probably couldn't find it anyway), that's getting into hypothetical territory, so whether or not I'm right or you're right makes little difference.

I don't own a PS3 yet, so I hardly see a reason to get upset.That doesn't explain why you're upset.


I wouldn't say I'm "upset", but I do find it rather trollish to post that you found something and not even give a bit of info about it. Yes, obviously he isn't obligated to give anyone anything, but if he wanted people to know he found an exploit, he could have just posted it in a forum or something instead of making this big-ass announcement like he's accomplished something by telling us this. Our opinion seems to differ if this will help anyone as you believe that the knowledge an exploit is there will get more people on it, whereas I believe that the right people are already working on it to begin with. There isn't a "I'm right or you're right" here since both of us could be right. It's a difference of opinion.

QUOTE(Tonitonichopchop @ Mar 6 2011, 08:04 PM)

QUOTE(Rydian @ Mar 7 2011, 02:53 AM)

You should stop thinking that way.

I'm a bit curious to know what you mean by this.

Thinking you know how hackers think and work when you haven't a clue is the minor point, but the main point is being mad when somebody doesn't release a hack, as if they owe you. This is gotten off the guy's twitter, I'm pretty sure you'd get upset if people started being angry at YOU for something you posted.

I wouldn't say I have no clue. I'm not nearly skilled enough to release homebrew or exploits, but I have a good idea of how hacking works enough where I can say that finding an exploit takes a lot of skill (And a bit of luck). And again, I never said this guy should give anyone anything, my point is that if you have something and fail to show proof or even give a hint at how you got it, you might as well be trolling as no one knows for sure if he did or not. As an example, pretend I told you that I found $10 and put it in my pocket. I then told you there was more of it, but I won't tell you where or show you the money I found. I may as well have said nothing at all since you might be able to find it, but more likely than not I either sent you on a wild goose chase, or just did nothing except taunt you with the idea I found money (And worse yet, maybe I didn't even find any money). Maybe I'm thinking this "tweet" of his is a bigger outlet than it is, but I still see no reason to get everyone's hopes up like this for barely any payoff save a little hope it exists (Assuming he's telling the truth, as we don't even know if that's true).

God, I've gotta keep my replies shorter

 

[shakirmoledina]

oops sorry i mean rydian angry fox man... i always seem to be mixing rydian with rayder
let me take an excerpt from the thread i posted it to jpcsp team .... hmmm cant find it, oh well it was wrong anyway but jpcsp figured it out

at this moment its only the devs who can understand the concept to allow the general public to use it (as far as i have seen) but why cant the same keys be taken again? could the firmware block the system exploit (the one tht was used before by teamoverflow)

 

[Rydian]

I wouldn't say I'm "upset", but I do find it rather trollish to post that you found something and not even give a bit of info about it.This guy normally DOES give the info, however in case you haven't noticed Sony's suing damn near everybody that has anything to do with the PS3 hacks.

he could have just posted it in a forum or something instead of making this big-ass announcement like he's accomplished something by telling us this.fksjldghsf He posted it on his twitter. It's all the OTHER sites that are reporting on it, not him. Christ, this issue comes up every time. Every time a hacker posts something on THEIR OWN BLOG OR TWITTER and other sites report it people like you bitch and whine and moan, saying the hacker didn't need to... what, post it on all these sites? IT'S NOT THEM! It's all these other sites that are reporting on it!

Our opinion seems to differ if this will help anyone as you believe that the knowledge an exploit is there will get more people on it, whereas I believe that the right people are already working on it to begin with. There isn't a "I'm right or you're right" here since both of us could be right. It's a difference of opinion.I actually know various hackers (not specifically console ones) and I program as a hobby, so I'm pretty sure I know more about how their minds work...

QUOTE(Tonitonichopchop @ Mar 7 2011, 03:37 AM) And again, I never said this guy should give anyone anything

You certainly were complaining that he's not releasing it...

QUOTE(Tonitonichopchop @ Mar 7 2011, 03:37 AM)

my point is that if you have something and fail to show proof or even give a hint at how you got it, you might as well be trolling as no one knows for sure if he did or not.

You just think that because you don't seem to know who this guy is. I mean you might as well be responding to an announcement by the CEO of Microsoft with "Whatever, I doubt that guy knows anything about Microsoft".

 

[Tonitonichopchop]

I wouldn't say I'm "upset", but I do find it rather trollish to post that you found something and not even give a bit of info about it.This guy normally DOES give the info, however in case you haven't noticed Sony's suing damn near everybody that has anything to do with the PS3 hacks.

he could have just posted it in a forum or something instead of making this big-ass announcement like he's accomplished something by telling us this.fksjldghsf He posted it on his twitter. It's all the OTHER sites that are reporting on it, not him. Christ, this issue comes up every time. Every time a hacker posts something on THEIR OWN BLOG OR TWITTER and other sites report it people like you bitch and whine and moan, saying the hacker didn't need to... what, post it on all these sites? IT'S NOT THEM! It's all these other sites that are reporting on it!

Our opinion seems to differ if this will help anyone as you believe that the knowledge an exploit is there will get more people on it, whereas I believe that the right people are already working on it to begin with. There isn't a "I'm right or you're right" here since both of us could be right. It's a difference of opinion.I actually know various hackers (not specifically console ones) and I program as a hobby, so I'm pretty sure I know more about how their minds work...

QUOTE(Tonitonichopchop @ Mar 7 2011, 03:37 AM) And again, I never said this guy should give anyone anything

You certainly were complaining that he's not releasing it...

QUOTE(Tonitonichopchop @ Mar 7 2011, 03:37 AM)

my point is that if you have something and fail to show proof or even give a hint at how you got it, you might as well be trolling as no one knows for sure if he did or not.

You just think that because you don't seem to know who this guy is. I mean you might as well be responding to an announcement by the CEO of Microsoft with "Whatever, I doubt that guy knows anything about Microsoft".

Are you even reading what I've said? I said I wasn't angry he didn't release the exploit, I said I was mad (Being much more than I feel, after all, this is internet, none of this actually makes me upset in real life) that he posted it in the form of a pseudo-official announcement on twitter. If you haven't been living under a rock, you should have noticed a lot of people and companies are using twitter to make announcements based on products or programs they're releasing. I'm not dumb enough to think that these websites picked up his tweet at his bequest, but the reason it probably got this notoriety is because it was seen on a semi-famous hacker's twitter and the PS3 hacking scene is pretty huge right now.

As I've said before, I have NO CLUE how popular this guy is. I do follow the PS3 scene, but not to the extent of knowing of each hacker and what they've done. If this was just a personal tweet blown out of proportion, then fine. But it seems to me that this is either A) A ploy to receive attention/fame, B) An oversight, not thinking that he would receive this amount of attention, or C) A desperate attempt to make a better hacker than himself decide to try to find this so called exploit he discovered.

Now honestly, do you really think this is worth arguing over to this extent? At the end of the day, no one got hurt from what he did, and my opinion is my own in that I think he is just blowing hot air. If you can prove to me he isn't, then great, I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong when I am. But arguing over petty points and accusing me of being whinny, bitching he didn't release the exploit, or whatever else you think I'm doing this for is moot as I don't give a fuck if you think that's what I think. Either give me hard evidence this isn't the case, or I have no reason to reply further as I'm amazed I event went to this extent to reply to you.

 

[Rydian]

This is a personal tweet that everybody's freaking out about because the guy is well-known and he delivers. He's not delivering this time because lawsuits suck.

It's not A, B, or C. If you still think it's gotta' be one of those, you need to learn more about hackers.

Also, if you want to know about him try googling his damned name.
Mathieulh
http://www.google.com/search?q=mathieulh

You'll notice he's done QUITE A LOT, and you look pretty stupid for talking like he's a random nobody.

 

[Nujui]

QUOTE(Rydian' date ='Mar 7 2011, 09:10 PM) This is a personal tweet that everybody's freaking out about because the guy is well-known and he delivers. He's not delivering this time because lawsuits suck.

It's not A, B, or C. If you still think it's gotta' be one of those, you need to learn more about hackers.

Also, if you want to know about him try googling his damned name.
Mathieulh
http://www.google.com/search?q=mathieulh

You'll notice he's done QUITE A LOT, and you look pretty stupid for talking like he's a random nobody.

People are saying he's a nobody?

I've seen him doing lot's of things.

 

[Coto]

Mathieulh is one of those "silent but genius" people hackers. And one of the best around.

It´s like Team Twiizer on Wii.

Perhaps even better skilled

 

[Tonitonichopchop]

This is a personal tweet that everybody's freaking out about because the guy is well-known and he delivers. He's not delivering this time because lawsuits suck.

It's not A, B, or C. If you still think it's gotta' be one of those, you need to learn more about hackers.

Also, if you want to know about him try googling his damned name.
Mathieulh
http://www.google.com/search?q=mathieulh

You'll notice he's done QUITE A LOT, and you look pretty stupid for talking like he's a random nobody.

I have no desire to learn about him, nor do I wish to learn about every hacker to releases some kind of PS3 homebrew (Although learning about hacking itself does interest me somewhat). I have a life outside of researching people on the internet like a stalker.

And seriously, can't I just have my opinion? Does it really bother you enough to keep replying to me to make me think differently than I do now? In all honesty, if you weren't a moderator, I'd think you're trolling, but I see you're just extremely opinionated about this matter, so I leave you to think whatever you want. Sorry if one random guy's thoughts upset you.

 

[Snorlax]

This is a personal tweet that everybody's freaking out about because the guy is well-known and he delivers. He's not delivering this time because lawsuits suck.

It's not A, B, or C. If you still think it's gotta' be one of those, you need to learn more about hackers.

Also, if you want to know about him try googling his damned name.
Mathieulh
http://www.google.com/search?q=mathieulh

You'll notice he's done QUITE A LOT, and you look pretty stupid for talking like he's a random nobody.

And seriously, can't I just have my opinion? Does it really bother you enough to keep replying to me to make me think differently than I do now? In all honesty, if you weren't a moderator, I'd think you're trolling, but I see you're just extremely opinionated about this matter, so I leave you to think whatever you want. Sorry if one random guy's thoughts upset you.

You're both as bad as each-other.
Take your boring, monotonous argument elsewhere!

 

[Rydian]

My problem is you willingly continue to talk even though you don't know what you're talking about.

As I showed you simply googling the guy's username (which is in the first sentence of the first post) will show you a bunch of his most recent advancements. He's one of the biggest names in the hacking/modding scene.

If you're not sure on something, do some research before you talk bad about people, and maybe you won't get harsh responses next time.

 

[M[u]ddy]

I have no desire to learn about him...
Then don't judge him either.
QUOTEAnd seriously, can't I just have my opinion?

Of course you are entitled to you opinion, but if your opinion is bases on assumptions and you refuse to do some research, then it's an uneducated opinion and we have every right to call you out on it.

 

[whoomph]

Shhhh!!!! Everyone! I can hear something...
It's getting closer... It's... It's...

Spoiler

3.57

 

[Rydian]

I'm pretty sure Sony would make 3.60 first, they usually do the small updates as bugfixes (or piracy-related fixes), I'm not sure if there are any publicly-known bugs in this version so it's likely the next will be a feature update.

 

[Maedhros]

I hope the come with something really big, like making the browse better and crosschat.