Group boycotts 3DS because it fuels human right abuses.

[Tonitonichopchop]

Not only do they lack a source, it doesn't matter since several thousand people will be purchasing a 3DS.

They're trolls obviously. At least, the person who started it is.

 

[Hakoda]

I call bullshit. There's no way that the Japanese government would allow imperialism in an African country for a stupid mineral in their latest video game console. Japan may be lacking resources but they're not stupid enough to go out and rip it off some African county. They have morals and standards, they'd buy it legally.

 

[Livin in a box]

they are arguing about Nintendo supporting "cheap foreign labor??"

doesn't everyone do that now?

And that makes it right?

 

[VashTS]

this is absurd. i can't stand hippies like that.

 

[notmeanymore]

Isn't the 3DS like 90% plastic? lol

I don't see there being plastic mines in the Congo. And the minuscule amount of gold/wolframite (whichever is used, I really don't know, I'm just basing it off of Wikipedia) is so pointless to boycott.

Also, where is their proof that the 3DS is actually made from these "conflict minerals" and not ones mined elsewhere?

 

[Fear Zoa]

Ehhh who cares if a few of us die....we're overpopulated anyway......life goes on

I for one will be getting a 3ds...after all....if nobody buys them then all their suffering is in vain

 

[twiztidsinz]

I call bullshit. There's no way that the Japanese government would allow imperialism in an African country for a stupid mineral in their latest video game console. Japan may be lacking resources but they're not stupid enough to go out and rip it off some African county. They have morals and standards, they'd buy it legally.
It's NOT illegal to buy it, there is no prohibition on the sale of the so called 'conflict materials' at this time (unlike blood or conflict diamonds) and no one is saying it IS illegal... just immoral to be funding guerrillas who force these miners to work essentially at gunpoint by buying the mineral.
It's not possible to trace the mineral either, and Nintendo isn't going to Africa and buying it, the factories they source parts from are buying it from distributors who buy it from importers who buy it from somewhere in Africa who buys it from someone who bought it from the people who 'own' the mine.

Isn't the 3DS like 90% plastic? lol

I don't see there being plastic mines in the Congo. And the minuscule amount of gold/wolframite (whichever is used, I really don't know, I'm just basing it off of Wikipedia) is so pointless to boycott.

Also, where is their proof that the 3DS is actually made from these "conflict minerals" and not ones mined elsewhere?
It's not miniscule per console, and the volume of consoles sold is high as well.
There's no proof that it's from the guerrilla controlled mines as there's currently no way to trace it back because mandatory paperwork for the materials isn't required either by the company or the government, however it's more likely that it DOES come from those mines at least in part due to the fact that the guerrillas control more than half of the mines.

I don't understand, how do they know? Or are they just claiming?

Given the quantity of materials produced from the Congo region and that over half the mines producing them are controlled by the guerrillas, it's more likely they are than they are not.
It's somewhat unfair to name Nintendo, but they have the big new item.

So... You're basically supporting this boycott?

Not intentionally... I just don't really have the desire (or extra cash) to buy a 3DS at the moment.
But yes, I do support their movement. I hope it's not simply confined to Nintendo as there are many other companies who make electronics who buy from the same area, but I can see the validity of using Nintendo -- it's an eye catcher of a name and they're popular so this would increase the exposure of the message.


QUOTE(8BitWalugi @ Feb 27 2011, 04:57 PM)

DerpApple.

What?
Don't make idiotic one-word responses, especially without a quote, especially when that one word is two, especially when one of those words isn't a word.

Also, Steve Jobs has said: "We require all of our suppliers to certify in writing that they use conflict few materials."
http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/3...flict-minerals/
Which while not ideal is a start given the difficulty of tracing the material.

 

[8BitWalugi]

DerpApple.

 

[KingVamp]

Some of you guys are too harsh and cruel.

 

[DryYoshi]

What the crap are "conflict mineral"?

Stupid Greenpeace\NGP fanboys.

 

[RoyalCardMan]

I am joining the boycott, since I would believe that Nintendo would do this. Their country isn't that nice.
Alright, if you flame me for joining, I will ignore insults.

 

[Snailface]

I call bullshit. There's no way that the Japanese government would allow imperialism in an African country for a stupid mineral in their latest video game console. Japan may be lacking resources but they're not stupid enough to go out and rip it off some African county. They have morals and standards, they'd buy it legally.
It's NOT illegal to buy it, there is no prohibition on the sale of the so called 'conflict materials' at this time (unlike blood or conflict diamonds) and no one is saying it IS illegal... just immoral to be funding guerrillas who force these miners to work essentially at gunpoint by buying the mineral.
It's not possible to trace the mineral either, and Nintendo isn't going to Africa and buying it, the factories they source parts from are buying it from distributors who buy it from importers who buy it from somewhere in Africa who buys it from someone who bought it from the people who 'own' the mine.


QUOTE(TehSkull @ Feb 27 2011, 03:56 PM) Isn't the 3DS like 90% plastic? lol

I don't see there being plastic mines in the Congo. And the minuscule amount of gold/wolframite (whichever is used, I really don't know, I'm just basing it off of Wikipedia) is so pointless to boycott.

Also, where is their proof that the 3DS is actually made from these "conflict minerals" and not ones mined elsewhere?

It's not miniscule per console, and the volume of consoles sold is high as well.
There's no proof that it's from the guerrilla controlled mines as there's currently no way to trace it back because mandatory paperwork for the materials isn't required either by the company or the government, however it's more likely that it DOES come from those mines at least in part due to the fact that the guerrillas control more than half of the mines.

These guerrilla warlords should be dealt with directly. If you cut off their money, they'll find a different "use" for their victims. Yeah, I don't think cutting off their money supply will make them peaceful at all. Take their guns, that'll make them peaceful.

 

[RoyalCardMan]

Ehhh who cares if a few of us die....we're overpopulated anyway......life goes on

I for one will be getting a 3ds...after all....if nobody buys them then all their suffering is in vain

So, your with the government, it would seem.
I hate big government, so I am watching you...

 

[buffdog]

fe fi fo fum

 

[Fear Zoa]

I am joining the boycott, since I would believe that Nintendo would do this. Their country isn't that nice.
Alright, if you flame me for joining, I will ignore insults.

Nah its fine....stand up for what you believe in ......

Never did get why people flame others for their opinions....

EDIT: I just noticed you replied to me sooo....No I'm not with the government.....I hate the government....I'm one of those we're all animals in the bigger picture sort of guys...

 

[digipokemaster]

this is so sad if i want to buy one i will they cant make the only way for them to make me not buy is haveing a gun pointed at my head but i still buy one
um i wonder if they is a way to contact them so i can tell them im buying one

 

[Slyakin]

I am joining the boycott, since I would believe that Nintendo would do this. Their country isn't that nice.
Alright, if you flame me for joining, I will ignore insults.

Why would you join the boycott simply because they are based in Japan? That kind of sounds like racism (although I won't go into that).

I understand what you are saying, and I don't want to deter you, but you also have a few things that are made of conflict material, like your computer.

 

[twiztidsinz]

What the crap are "conflict mineral"?

Stupid Greenpeace\NGP fanboys.
Materials (i.e. minerals and ore) that are mined in the Congo by people forced at gunpoint by the guerrilla's who use the profits to fund their war.

Stupid ignorant\oblivious child.


QUOTE(Snailface @ Feb 27 2011, 05:06 PM) These guerrilla warlords should be dealt with directly. If you cut off their money, they'll find a different "use" for their victims. Yeah, I don't think cutting off their money supply will make them peaceful at all. Take their guns, that'll make them peaceful.

Yes. Let's invade a country, that ALWAYS works well.... Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq.
On what grounds do you say we do so? The guerrilla forces aren't part of the government, it's an internal conflict and really has nothing to do with the outside world.

 

[Slyakin]

I wonder if this is gonna happen with the NGP as well. It would be hard to believe that the NGP WON'T have conflict material.

 

[Snailface]

What the crap are "conflict mineral"?

Stupid Greenpeace\NGP fanboys.
Materials (i.e. minerals and ore) that are mined in the Congo by people forced at gunpoint by the guerrilla's who use the profits to fund their war.

Stupid ignorant\oblivious child.


QUOTE(Snailface @ Feb 27 2011, 05:06 PM) These guerrilla warlords should be dealt with directly. If you cut off their money, they'll find a different "use" for their victims. Yeah, I don't think cutting off their money supply will make them peaceful at all. Take their guns, that'll make them peaceful.

Yes. Let's invade a country, that ALWAYS works well.... Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq.
On what grounds do you say we do so? The guerrilla forces aren't part of the government, it's an internal conflict and really has nothing to do with the outside world.

Embargoing trade with violent groups/countries hasn't been met with a high success rate either. Go ahead, try it. Why not. I just think we'll wind up with pricier electronics and the Congo remaining violent as hell.