General softmod backup launching compatibility guide

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  1. WiiPower
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    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Compatibilty for usb loaders:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>
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    Same as for discs, but - Problem category 1(IOS Reloading games).
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    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Settings for best compatiblity in NeoGamma and SoftChip for others, please look somewhere else):<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>
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    NeoGamma:
    Hooktype: none
    Ocarina: no
    Alternative .dol: no
    Boot language: Console Default (2nd test on import games: one language used in the game)
    Force Video: Disc
    Patch Video: no
    VIDTV Patch: no
    Patch Country Strings: no (3rd test on import games: yes)

    SoftChip:
    Game's Language: System Default (2nd test on import games: one language used in the game)
    Patch Country Strings: no (3rd test on import games: yes)
    Set Video Mode using: Disc Region
    Fake IOS version: yes
    Load requested IOS: no
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    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Known (game) compatibity issues from different cIOS revisions:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>
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    USB capability was intoduced with rev9, SD/SDHC was introduced in rev10.

    rev 14:
    - Not DL compatible
    - Might be not compatible with discs that use 100% or almost 100% of the available space on discs

    13b:
    lol

    13a:
    - (could theoretically have issues with new games due to used main.dol patches)

    rev12:
    - Killer 001 patch, not compatible with SoftChip and NeoGamma(and maybe others)
    - 002 main.dol patch ==> not compatible with 002b games

    rev11:
    don't know, most likely same as 12

    rev10:
    - 002 main.dol patch ==> not compatible with 002b games

    rev9:
    - 002 main.dol patch ==> not compatible with 002b games

    rev8:
    - 002 main.dol patch ==> not compatible with 002b games
    - i'm almost sure it has the killer 001 patch too

    rev7:
    - No DL support, but all SL should work
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    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Problem category 1(IOS Reloading games)
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    These games load their IOS themselves. For <b>usb loaders</b> this renders these games <b>not playable</b>, because a IOS Reload terminates usb storage, which could only be reinited by the application(the game) and not by the IOS.
    However these games are playable from disc, <b>if</b> the IOS that is loaded has the backip dip. If you have cioscorp installed, that's always the case. Without cioscorp, you can achieve it by patching the game to IOS249(does not work on 002 games!) or installing the right cIOS from cioscorp to replace the IOS that is requested. Example, if the game requests IOS53, it will work if you install cIOS53 from cioscorp.

    <b>For disc&usb loaders:</b>
    Some of these games have more than one .dol and can be played without that patching/cioscorp hassle and can be played from usb too. You need to load the actual game .dol directly instead of loading the main.dol there. That's what the alternative .dol loading in some loaders is good for(in NeoGamma for example, but lots of others have it as well).<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Army Men: Soldiers of Misfortune (maybe doesn't need the patching, 1 confirmation)
    Boogie (not Boogie Superstar which doesn't need this)
    Call of Duty 3
    CSI: Deadly Intent(IOS53)
    FarCry(IOS9)
    Fate of Atlantis(inside Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings)
    FIFA 08
    House of the Dead 2
    Mahjong Kakutou Club(Mahjong Fight Club)
    Madden '07
    Madden '08
    Medal of Honor Heroes 2
    Metal Slug Anthology
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Metroid Prime Trilogy
    Mortal Kombat Armageddon
    NBA Live '08
    Pangya Golf With Style
    Red Steel(IOS9)
    Sam & Max Season One(IOS33)
    Splinter Cell Double Agent
    SSX Blur
    Super Swing Golf
    Video tutorial in Grand slam Tennis
    Video tutorial in Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10
    Video tutorial in Virtua Tennis
    Video tutorial in Wii Sports Resort
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    PS: If you played one of these games unpatched, and now you patch(IOS Version patch) it in order to get it to work, you might run into savegame problems. It's confirmed that if you play FarCry until the crash point with the unpatched disc and then play further with the patched disc that you get savegame bugs up to a "system files are corrupt" message. So if you read this because you were searching a fix for one of these games, delete the savegame or have good brick protection when you patch now!


    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Problem category 2(„002b“ games)
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    These games only work if the memory 002 fix is used. <b>If the main.dol 002 fix is used, these games freeze</b>, using the memory 002 fix too does not help. Examples for the main.dol 002 fix are the cIOS rev8-rev12 + rev13b, SoftChip's Remove 002 option and the modified versions of Gamma and Gecko OS with 002 fix integrated. Examples for the new 002 fix are NeoGamma, SoftChip's Fake IOS Version option, Gecko OS 1.07b with the <b>new</b> 002fix and usb loader GX rev454+. So using cIOSrev13a + NeoGamma is one possibilty to play these games from disc or usb.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Burger Island
    Diabolik The Original Sin(different reports)
    Ghostbusters
    Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings
    MySims Racing
    Nutrition Matters
    Solitaire And Mahjong
    Takt of Magic<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Problem category 3(heath screen freeze games)<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>
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    These games freeze at the heath screen for some users, mostly for people using discs and that only get 3x reading speed. There's no real solution for this problem yet. Some people get it to work by pressing certain buttons with the correct timing. And many people report that they get the game to load by pressing eject with the correct timing, and reinserting the disc when they are asked for. The correct timing seems to be as soon as the screen flashes white for the health screen. And a 3rd solution that is reported to work is to remove the sd card. <b>It seems these problems are caused by faulty piracy releases, many people reported that a self created backup works flawlessly, while the 3 burns before have this issue. Maybe this problem is caused by scrubbing the game.</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Ghostbusters
    Summer Sports 2<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->


    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Problem category 4(yet unknow protection)<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->New Super Mario Bros<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

    When playing with a modchip or via usb, the game needs to be patched. The patching can be skipped by using an updated loader. NeoGamma R8beta12+ works for it, latest usb loader gx, most likely latest Configurable usb loader too and some others.

    When playing via softmod from a disc, cIOSrev15 has to be used, and the game has to be patched too. Note that NeoGamma and disc chanenl are not compatible with cIOSrev15.

    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Problem category 5(games that don't work when the loader is compatible with Sam & Max)<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    Most USB loaders are not compatible with Sam & Max at all. SoftChip is compatible with Sam & Max. NeoGamma R5+ is compatible with Sam & Max and also compatible with Wii Sports Resort due to a dirty fix, but not compatible with other games of this category. <b>Seems this issue is related to old cIOS. Wii Sports Resorts works fine with cIOSrev14 and NeoGamma.</b>

    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Wii Sports Resort*<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

    *This game additionally requires that you have seen the wm+ video once. To see that, you need to treat the game as if it was an IOS Reloading game.


    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Games with updated 001 error<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    You need cIOSrev7 or 14(+) for this. The other cIOS try to patch 001 error in the game, but can't find it, because the code for it was modified. Generic Wii Patcher does not help, as it uses the same patch as the cIOS does. (for those who wonder why rev7 works, it works, because it restricts all discs to DVD5)

    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->New Super Mario Bros
    Wii Fit Plus<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->


    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->002 error:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    Rofl. No comment.

    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Rock Band usb instruments:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    The drivers for the Rock Band usb instruments are only in IOS37(maybe in some more now, but not in any IOS<37). For discs there's a cIOS installer that allows you to install a rev7 cIOS based on IOS37 to any IOS slot you want. You need to select that IOS then in SoftChip to play with the instruments. For usb loading there's a cIOS from Hermes that can be „merged“ with IOS37 and be used by some of the usb loaders.

    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Dual layer games:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Metroid Prime Trilogy
    Super Mario Smash Brothers Brawl<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

    <b>Won't work correctly with cIOSrev14, DL support is broken there for discs AND usb. </b> With other cIOS: For usb loaders there should be no problem. For disc loading you need cIOS rev8 or higher. And best is to set the layer break manually to 2084960 when burning. And there are a lot of Wiis which have severe problems with dual layer discs, even with retail discs. DVD5 versions of SSBB seem to work fine with all cIOS from rev7 and up.

    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Unconfirmed not working games:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->MLB power pros 2008<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
    reading error after health warning, MLB power pros works fine

    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Green Screen Freeze:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    Main 2 causes:
    - Forcing a video mode not present in a game. See region free gaming for more details.
    - Starting a 002b game with any kind of the old 002fix

    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Region free gaming:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    Most if not all games from other regions should work, the only known problem is that about 50% of them only run the in the video modes of the region the game is from.

    Requirements to get import games working:
    - Use the video mode from the region of the game, in SoftChip and NeoGamma it's disc region video mode
    - Some games require that you force the language that is used in the game(example japanese for japanese games...)
    - Some games require to enable the option „Contry String patching“ (in for example NeoGamma or SoftChip)

    <b>If the game works with this, but in black and white and/or with jumping screen, it's working.</b> If you search for help somewhere mention this!!!

    <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->How to fix color issues:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
    Get NeoGamma, and try the different Force Video mode options and patch video mode options. Note that it does only work for about 50% of the games that result in a green screen freeze when started with the wrong video mode.

    <b>PS: Most region patchers are epic failures, and cause more trouble to get the game(s) to work than unpatched</b>

    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Most common reasons why some/all games don't run<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    <b>- your Wii just can't read any DVD-Rs!</b>
    - you use cIOSrev6(or earlier), 11 or 12
    - you did not read AND understand the above lists
    - you are using "the" wrong loader
    - your HDD is not supported, are you able to play ANY games from usb?
    - you try to play an import game
    - you are using DVD+Rs and you don't know what bitsetting is
    - you patch video modes on a game that does not like it
    - you patched something else you should not patch(like crappy region patchers or brickcrap)
    - you have a bad burn, use half max burning speed and good media next time
    - you have a memory card in slot 2(Gamma only issue, fixed in NeoGamma)


    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Checklist before posting problems:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b>

    - check if your game is already listed
    - post only problems, most games work fine
    - you have to be able to reproduce the error and tell EXACTLY where the problem occurs
    - post all infos you can provide, cIOS, kind of media, game and wii region
    - test more than only your favourite loader
    - post if the game freezes or restarts, when it happens and what's displayed during it



    <b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Downloads:
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    </b>Waninkoko's IOS Version patcher:
    <a href="http://www.teknoconsolas.es/waninkoko" target="_blank">http://www.teknoconsolas.es/waninkoko</a>
    or:
    <a href="http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=3812" target="_blank">http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=3812</a>

    Latest NeoGamma:
    <a href="http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=158884" target="_blank">http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=158884</a>

    cIOS installer for cIOS37(for Rock Band on disc launched with SoftChip):
    missing

    cIOS installer for Hermes cIOS for Rock Band instruments and uloader:
    <a href="http://mods.elotrolado.net/~hermes/wii/uloader_v1.9.rar" target="_blank">http://mods.elotrolado.net/~hermes/wii/uloader_v1.9.rar</a>
    (unconfirmed and most likely very outdated)

    cIOS installers from Waninkoko:
    <a href="http://www.teknoconsolas.es/waninkoko" target="_blank">http://www.teknoconsolas.es/waninkoko</a>

    cIOS rev13(a):
    <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?hoqz1mykljh" target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?hoqz1mykljh</a>

    cIOS rev14:
    (missing)

    Generic Wii Patcher:
    <a href="http://www.gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=77938" target="_blank">http://www.gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=77938</a>
     


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    Ehm...wasnt WiizleShizzleDizzle foe fixing that?
     
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    no lol im now playing nfs undercover without modchip [​IMG]
     
  4. WiiPower
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    Look at the headline:
    It's a softmod thread.
     
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    Updated the 1st post.
     
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    Well ... don't you think there are to much not updated lists there already anyways ? its boring work reading every page over and over again to see if there are any new posts and update your first post than ...


    for One piece ... like i already wrote in like 5 topics it works -.- ppl can say what they want there is no need of patching or changing the iso in any way at all.
    at least for me i just need to force lang english
     
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    WTH ghost squad's not on here?
     
  8. WiiPower
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    What the exact title of One piece and are you sure there aren't different games?

    Oh and i think this thread is better than the others(talking about self-overestimation...), because the others are either very old or just a noncompatibility list. I want a thread where you can look if your game works and if then how.
     
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    Your information that "SEGA Superstars Tennis" needs patching is wrong. The unpatched, but scrubbed, ISO works totally fine for me. As for "Sam & Max - Season 1" patching the IOS to 249 didn't work either.

    Ghost Squad didn't need any patching for me.
     
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    fifa 08 works with Waninkoko's IOS Version patcher to IOS249
     
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    Disney Think Fast does not need ios version patcher
     
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    far cry vengeance still crashes on second level with ios249 patch.....must be something else
     
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    I searched for it, i didn't find anything about this issue. Could you explain where exactly this crash happens? If anybody else already confirmed it, could you provide a link to it?

    If you are the only person with this problem, could you check if your burn isn't the problem? If you didn't do the verfication after burning, you can verfiy your burn in imgburn.
     
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    this game is listed as not working in your first post and also in other combatibilty threads, i am just confirming that it indeed does not work even when patched with ios249

    the wii restarts after completing the first level during the "plane flight away from the island movie cut scene"


    just rechecked threads......only listed as a pal problem...ntsc not listed as having a problem
     
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    Thank you for this information. Does it need to be patched to be started? Could you please verify your burn? I know a lot of people skip it, because if it succeeds, this means nothing. But if it fails, you can't read 100% of the disc, and your issue could be a bad sector.
     
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    have two copies..........both are pal version....see edit above that the game is listed as working using ntsc version


    first is 1:1.....crashes at end of first level

    second is patched ios249...crashes at the identical same spot

    and yes it has been verified against iso
     
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    Thank you, maybe it's just listed as working for ntsc, but the ntsc version has the same issue.
     
  18. jadaramiro

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    hey folks, i was playing Okami and it seems to freeze at a certain point in the game. I don't want to to cause any spoilers but if anything i may post a pic on what section of the game i am referring to. Anyways, i tried going to about that section of the game in different ways and it seems to freeze every time i get in a battle with the 3rd enemy that i am required to defeat to proceed.

    ANother question is that i have no more heroes iso ntsc u but i am reading things about it needed to be patched. I am not sure what to do about this or if it is even needed since i am running backup launcher .3 gamma. Any help would be appreciated. thank you.
     
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    About Okami:
    Please check your disc with imgburn

    About No more heroes:
    Does it work unpatched or not?
     
  20. jadaramiro

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    alright so i have the disc in imgburn but what am i supposed to see for Okami???

    After doing a lot of research, i am seeing that No More Heroes NTSC U/C works 100% on 0.3 gamma version and anything below that requires a patching. So far it has been running well but from what i've read is that without the patch, going to the gym or restaurant it would freeze but i haven't got that far yet but again i have 0.3 gamma backup launcher so i hope that problem doesn't persist.
     

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