Gamecube launcher on Wii?

Discussion in 'Wii - Backup Loaders' started by Distrance, Oct 15, 2011.

Oct 15, 2011

Gamecube launcher on Wii? by Distrance at 10:44 PM (4,673 Views / 0 Likes) 35 replies

  1. Distrance
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    So, I googled this and found something about a Wiigator Gamecube Backup launcher, but no actual page for it where I could check information. Does this still exist, and does it work (my firmware is 4.3), or is there an alternative that does work? Where do I download it from if it works? If it works, what kind of DVD's do I need? And how do I burn them if the game is multidisc? I want to play Tales of Symphonia as a undub which was also reported to work, but it is a multidisc game so I'm not sure..
     


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    Use Modmii to get wiigator cMIOS and use neogamma to load GCN discs.
     
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    Be aware that your Wii can read DVD-R's because i have a Wii bought around april this year and has the new laser drive.
    I'm still looking for an alternative launch method but no luck :( (sneek/uneek and have little compatibility and DIos Mios isn't even finished)
     
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    I think the new drives (D3) went into Wiis around autumn -09. So basicly all Wiis with a production date beyond that have the D3 drive, which cant play anything but legit Wii and GC games.

    Best way to fix it is obviously to get a hold of an older DVD drive. Here in sweden they sell for around 90-100USD+ (Ive seen some for ~200USD, which is more than the actual wii lol)
    Second best way is a Wode, but that too is quite expensive (around ~120usd in swe) :/

    Thank god I never sold my GC console :ha:
     
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    There is also the Wiikey Fusion mod chip that lets you run gamecube games from a SD card and they seems to cost about $40.
     
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    For discs, read the ini FAQ from here:
    http://gbatemp.net/topic/219243-neogamma-r9-beta-test/

    There's another alternative, but also not working really nice. Swiss, which requires a GC memory to sd card adapter(
     
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    I subscribed to this topic but didn't receive any email about new replies.. weird.

    Anyway, after posting this I realized what I found out already ages ago ; I indeed have the new drive (I really wanted Black Wii so I got it thinking it wouldn't matter... oh how wrong I was), and can't play any burned games on it. I was now going to ask about the older drives.. So is it really so that no other DVD drive is compatible with Wii but the one the older ones came with, meaning I really have to buy one for like 100 bucks? How is it even possible that the new drives won't play burned games .. to my understanding all consoles do as long as they're modded?

    Can I get more insight on how the Wiikey Fusion thing works with SD card, and does it interfere with my softmods? (Meaning, can I still launch my games from USB drive normally?). Also how hard is it actually to solder a chip into Wii if you've never soldered anything? I could borrow a kit from a friend but I'm not sure I want to fck up my Wii..

    There's also a slight possibility for me to acquire (buy) an older Wii and take it's DVD drive, and switch it with my current drive. The question is ; Does changing DVD drives require soldering and how hard is it to switch them? And do the older Wii's work with the new drive? If I bought another Wii and switched the drives, I would then just resell the old (new drive) Wii to cut the costs.
     
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    The old drive had a DVD chip which was exploited to get the drive to accept burned discs. The new drives dont have this chip and thus making it unable to be exploited.
    Replacing the DVD does not require soldering, as long as you replace the entire thing. If you only replace the daughterboard you need to de/solder 4 cables for the lens motor. These are relatively big and "alone", so its not very hard to solder.


    The wiikey is solderless, its just attaches on the datacable between the dvd and wii, and alters the code flowing through it. It does not interfere with your softmod.

    How hard it is to solder a chip completely depends on your soldering skills. I tried to chip my old GC, ended up with a dead console :)
     
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    WODE and Wiikey Fusion are plugged in between the drive and the Wii. There shouldn't be any soldering required for both, and it's unlikely to interfere with any softmod. The backup disc features won't work, they require the same eploit the softmods do, but loading from sd card or HDD will work.
     
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    So Wiikey fusion is the easiest thing then? They seem to be the cheapest, too. So I get Wiikey and install it, what then? I need '' Use Modmii to get wiigator cMIOS and use neogamma to load GCN discs. '' as posted by harroxelas earlier? What about if I want to load my games from my HDD?

    What's a WODE?

    Ps. This isn't relevant to this thread exactly but .. I want to get GC games working to play Tales of Symphonia undub. I own the orig. game and want to complete it again but this time with orig audio. Problem is, that the undubs floating around on the net are NTSC-U and my clear game save data is PAL. Is it possible to convert the game to PAL or the savedata to NTSC-U somehow?
     
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    Loading games from an USB HDD is only possible through a WODE, which basicly emulates the DVD drive and allows you to run games etc from USB devices.
    Im not 100% sure how it works, as its not of interest for me, but I dont think you need any software on the Wii to use the WODE, you just launch it through Disc Channel like any other disc.

    Heres their official site: http://www.wodejukebox.com/home.php

    But Id say Wiikey is the easiest and cheapest way. You just cant launch backup discs with it. Only stuff from an SD Card.
     
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    Yeah Wiikey Fusion & WODE are the simplest ways to run gc backups without an old drive . Once installed follow the guide in there site to install games on the sd . This doesn't need any homebrews or anything else to be able to run them . If you want to run gc games from a HDD then you need a WODE but for wii games just keep using your favorite usb loader the modchip doesn't interfere with it .

    The WODE is a modchip that runs gc & wii games from a HDD by emulating the dvd drive . It looks like a wii stand that gets connected to the wii & gets stuck with it till you open the wii & disconnect it. It is a great modchip but its expensive ,makes the wii hard to move around & have trouble streaming sounds so maany games will not have any sound .

    As for the save conversion I found this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GFRQ44S . I downloaded it & made sure it isn't a virus but I have no idea how well it works .
     
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    I'm not 100% sure I still get it so to confirm : If I want to run a game from SD Card, then only Wiikey is enough? And for HDD you need Wiikey AND WODE? The WODE seems quite troublesome to use and if I have no sounds on ToS, the whole idea of running an undub in the first place is ruined. Since I want this explicitly for just one game, running the game from SD card would be enough assuming the game fits. How would it work though? A reminder, Tales of Symphonia is multidisc game (2 discs).

    I'll try to save conversion if I get Wiikey at one point. You sure there's not a way to convert the .iso from NTSC-U to PAL though?

    Here's also another thought ; Gamecubes are relatively cheap here when bought used. What kind of modchip would I need for it, is it expensive, hard to install and will it let me play NTSC-U games? Additionally, will colors be displayed properly? NTSC colors are usually colorless unless you use RGB cable. For Wii I didn't need RGB cable though for some reason. Oh, and since Gamecube will only run those small dvd things, can you burn to those normally with your computer or do you need a special DVD drive?
     
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    As for gc modchips I don't know there prices nowadays but they are really hard to install so you might want to cross-out this option unless you have the skill to do so .
    Also you might want to try the free solutions first before buying anything . Try Dios-Mios lite and see if it works well with ToS . Also if you have a decent pc you might want to try running the game on dolphin & see how fast it works . My year old laptop can run ToS fine most of the game .
     
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    I have a chipped PAL GC with quoob (or whatever the name was lol). It plays NTSC games just fine in color etc. I have the original A/V cable (composite) for the GC.

    As for installation... There are some veeeery small points and one extremely sensitive point. Its very easy to fuck up the GC if you make a mistake. *looks at his previous dead GC*
     
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    The wode has only problems with games that feature streaming audio. Here is the list of those games:
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    so.... ToS will work on wode B-)
     
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    Thanks for that list, been looking for that! I believe these are the problem games for the back up launchers too; is that correct?
     
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    I actually upgraded my computer just recently and it can play even the newest games on PC with Ultra graphics so it should be good.. I'll give Dolphin a shot. However, this results in one critical problem : My savegames are on my Gamecube memory card (obviously). Wii doesn't let you copy from GC MC to SD card, is there a homebrew that I could use to rip the save games?

    Edit : tried Dolphin and the music stutters a lot. The speech is '' okay '' but could use some improvement. Is there a certain settings I should use with ToS? It's likely I'll go with Wiikey though, assuming there won't be sound problems like this ..

    There is still something I don't understand though. If my Wii is softmodded, why exactly do I need Wiikey to run games from SD card? Wasn't the problem with the new drives that they can't read burned discs. As mine is softmodded, shouldn't the SD card thing work without Wiikey?
     
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    WiiKey got its own SD card reader. You cant use the SD card reader on the Wii. Thats why :)
    The Wii turns off ALL features on the Wii which wasnt available on the GC (bluetooth, SD card, USB ports etc)
     
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    I see. Seeing as how Dolphin is bugged and when I googled, it seemed like everyone else has sound problems too and there's still no fix available, I'll just go for the Wiikey then.

    Any experiences on the shops that shoptemp lists? Shoptemp isn't selling Wiikey Fusion but it lists a shop '' diy-buy.com '' (Wholesale from china ... makes me think of all those fake flashcarts for DS so I'm cautious..). It's only 32 bucks plus 3 for shipping... I do not want to order one to end up with a fake, however.

    Edit : It's actually a '' fake ''. Well, not really, but it's a '' repair parts solution '' ... or something. Shoptemp might want to stop listing that item when it clearly isn't what promised. I found a shop (listed at Wiikey Fusion homepage) that lists it with just a price of 21.95€. Wiikey costs 39.95€ in Finland, so this seems like a good choice. The picture however, is not very detailed so is this actually the correct product? Link here.

    Any idea if a microSD card reader works with Wiikey reader? I only have one SD card, but I also have a microSD card and a microSD card reader that is an SD card with the slot for the microSD .. Wondering if that'll work or if I need to buy another SD card.

    Ps. If anyone here has any chance to test the save game converted, that would be greatly appreciated. It's unlikely for me to start a completely new game if the converter fails so it would be a totally waste of money for me to get Wiikey if I can't play ToS then.
     

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